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[SomberXIII]

Although I like VA, I felt the Inquisitor is really bland. Much more than past protagonists.

[KaiserShep]

Renegade Shep had swagger though..

Renegade Shepard was all over the place, especially in ME1 and 2.

[KaiserShep]

Whatever you feel about the colourfulness of the options the Inquisitor has more expressions open than any Bioware Protagonist ever. It's not even comparable. The range of emotions you can exhibit is really quite large.

I agree. The Inquisitor feels more like a person in the universe than the others in general. Not being able go knife whoever I want for laughs or make as many jokes doesn't really change that.

[Vita Brevis]

No. No matter what I do or say he feels like he's a tranquil. And then goes some wtf heroic moment (when you ally with the mages/templars or that speech you give to the wardens) and he goes "watsup It's an honour rawr" and you just "Dude... you're odd as f. Find some middle ground already"

I never had a problem with Shepard or Hawke male vas... Maybe that's cause they sounded like males. Now whenever Cass is near, I fells she's the one who actually the one. And not the pc. He's so goody-goody it's revolting. 

 

Oddly enough, it makes me wnat to play as a female (like, first time in a 10 years of gaming) cause Alix did a great job... But I just can't stand females silly walk and modelling overall. Such a pain. >_>

 

I liked the Warden and Hawke both more. Cause in Warden's case it's the matter of headcanon, and yes, Hawke had his own personality but at least he felt real because of it, maybe some of his lines were odd and not always what you meant it to but there was some diversity, sarcasm really meant sarcasm for example. The Inq is just some carboard dummie. I mean, come on the most powerfull figure in Thedas at the moment is basically a nobody. That's not right.

[Qunquistador]

The American female voice kinda sucks, but the British one feels insanely wrong and too soft for a Qunari/my character. So I'm dealing with the American voice. She's not really less interesting to me than my Shep. It's just her VA is nowhere near as good. I pretty much choose the aggressive responses or shrug serious things off and that makes her more interesting to me. I would have liked more background on her, though. I think she's from the Free Marches and that's pretty much all I know.

[errantknight]

I found my inquisitor quite amusing (Male english voice). His tone seemed completely appropriate for someone who was trying to influence people and was often funny about it. I like it that he can be sarcastic without being a complete douche and his aggressive stance doesn't make him seem like someone should yell 'hide the children!'

 

The only problem to me was a bit of a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing.

 

There was far less trouble with paraphrasing because the inquisitor formed questions by repeating what was said to them verbatim instead of putting their own spin on it. That took away the misleading paraphrase and improper characterization for individual rp choices, but it lead to a feeling of repeatition and is, I think, where the perception of lack of character comes from, because there are lots of dialogue 'type' choices.

 

Hawke and the Warden expressed an opinion every time they opened their mouths and with Hawke you often didn't know what that opinion was going to be when you picked it. That isn't a problem here and people don't find their Inquisitors expressing ideas and emotions that 'their' inquisitor wouldn't.

 

In order to get the same level of expression without misleading paraphrase and with all the possible character reactions, there'd have to be  like 3 times as much dialogue to choose from. I'd love that, but the people who skip convos or thought Origins was slow would have a spasm.

[Nimlowyn]

I'm sure some of my Inquisitors will be more interesting than others. My first I couldn't connect to at all, so after 50 hours I restarted. My second Inquisitor was easier to connect to, she was okay. (I starting liking her best after the end, actually). I also realize it will go better for me if I don't expect to feel as strongly about them as I did Hawke.

[BraveVesperia]

There are some things I really liked about the Inquisitor. For example, if you took specific dialogue perks at the war table, you can get an Inquisitor who's a bit of a nerd (history & arcane), or more shady (underworld), and whatever the noble perk does (haven't picked that yet). I also liked that at certain points, you have a wide range of emotional responses to give, meaning you can have them react more closely to what you want. There are also chances to express opinions on specific things (like the Chantry) and argue your point.

 

I do feel like Hawke had more personality, though they also had the drawback of sounding completely different when you switched tones. There was no way I would stick with one tone for an entire game (or even an entire conversation), because that would make them seem inconsistent too. Hawke's morals and beliefs were often tied to the tones rather than being separate (like in DAI). One minute Hawke is aggressively telling Anders that he's an abomination and the templars should put him down, next minute Hawke is aggressively telling Anders that they should kill all the templars so mages can be free. 

 

Some kind of balance between the two would be perfect, I think.

[Kingthlayer]

The Inquisitor is fine, the voice actors did their jobs well, I just feel the writing for the Inquisitor's lines just aren't there.  You look at Mass Effect, Dragon Age 2, and think of the best lines, the majority of those are going to be from Shepard or Hawke.  But you look at Inquisition and the best lines come from the companions.

[Vita Brevis]

I also liked that at certain points, you have a wide range of emotional responses to give, meaning you can have them react more closely to what you want. 

Yeah... Except, they're not emotional at all. Hawke reacted more emotionally while just talking to people that the Inq when he's talking about the deaths at the Conclave or someone elses death.

[Kappa Neko]

Whatever you feel about the colourfulness of the options the Inquisitor has more expressions open than any Bioware Protagonist ever. It's not even comparable. The range of emotions you can exhibit is really quite large.

This is true. I don't have an issue with the choices, I was very pleasantly surprised that often there were more than three options, only with how they are voiced. There is very little emotion behind them. Little personality, just different variations of pleasant monotony for the most part.So it doesn't actually feel like these ample choices are a big win at all. And I'm somebody who always plays nice characters, still the inquisitor puts me to sleep.

 

But I guess it doesn't matter because what would ultimately ruin the immersion anyway is the face animations of the inquisitor. How come DAI is far worse than ME1 from 2007 in that respect?! Shepard had a creepy smile, but otherwise the emotions were not as comical as the bizzaroland freak show that is the inquisitor... totally KILLS any kind of illusion that I'm playing a real person. I don't remember the scene, but it was a sad one, people died, and my quizzy had a lopsided grin on her face the entire time. WTF...

I don't understand why Bioware is going backwards since ME2. ME3 had worse graphics and face animations and now DAI is the absolute worst. Only makes the feeling of playing a puppet even worse. I hope they'll get it right again next time...

Oddly, the face animations of the companions are fine. In fact, how Solas' face changes ever so slightly after the last kiss to sadness looked very realistic. Great animation. You can actually SEE the realization dawn on him. Great scene altogether. But sad face inquisitor is just painful to watch.

[Hazegurl]

The Inquisitor is not a character who needs to be interesting. The Inquisitor is the the telescope you see the world through. The Inquisitor is you.

I play me irl all the time. I don't want to be me in an rpg. I want to be someone else. This wouldn't even be an issue if BW gave us different options and allowed the VAs to reflect those options in their tone.

 

I have to disagree with you. A protagonist in any story should be interesting otherwise you run the risk of relying on other characters to be interesting. The world should be interesting too but without an interesting lead the story is just plain dull. You just end up with a leading character who is passive and is just there to watch the world go by instead of truly being a part of it for better or worst. Sometimes I wonder why Dorian or even Cassandra couldn't have been the lead as they feel more cemented in the world and probably could have given us a richer story.

 

I like my Quizzy, but he is an unsympathetic character.  I felt no fear for him and no victory. He was simply there. I loved winning over the landsmeet on my first try as my human noble in DAO. I knew no one there would give two craps about elves and slavers cause my noble didn't. I hated being stuck having to choose between the Templars and Mages in DA2, but that was Kirkwall and there was no having my cake and eating it too but I felt fear for my Hawke and what would happen to him and Bethany before the game was over precisely because Hawke could fall so low. The Inquisitor makes me feel nothing for him, you can even get your entire clan killed and it's just another Tuesday afternoon. At least from what I heard about the Dalish origin.

[Vita Brevis]

The Inquisitor is not a character who needs to be interesting.

BS. Just BS.

That way Shep doesn't have to be either, but he was. If he wasn't the game would've been dull... as DAI.

[errantknight]

Yeah... Except, they're not emotional at all. Hawke reacted more emotionally while just talking to people that the Inq when he's talking about the deaths at the Conclave or someone elses death.

The problem with that is someone who is playing an opportunistic inquisitor who doesn't actually care will be having the wrong response forced on them. That was a big problem with Hawke. There were times when none of the responses felt right or seemed over the top. They didn't go this route out of nowhere, but because of past complaints. I agree that *additional* choices might sometimes be necessary, but mostly they worked fine for me.

[Marmite20]

 

 

I didn´t care for the worshipping everyone showed in my pc´s face. It felt quite irrational when I used all the "I´m not herald! I don´t believe in the maker!" discussion options and still everyone kept falling on their knees for a woship before me. Like my pc was in another dimension or something and everyone just saw his mouth move but didn´t hear him.

 

Very much Life of Brian kind of effect.

 

 

Agreed completely. I read an article before playing the game which focused on how the story explores religious belief and conflict, in the process forcing you to question your own (if any) tendencies towards religiosity. Actually playing the game however, it just seemed as though the player chracter was asked 'are you the special?' a lot.

 

Even when you told other chracters (Mother Giselle springs to mind) something to the effect of, 'The Maker is not real, I'm not special, get over me,' 

the others insisted that even if you weren't Andraste's special snowflake, you should still come across as one for the sake of 'DA PEOPLES!'But perhaps in the process of all the pomp and ceremony, everybody got swept up into believing the Inquisibutt was indeed Video Game Jesus! It didn't seem to make much difference whether you were irreverent/or nonchalant towards religion or whether you had a messiah complex.

 

I've completed the game once as an Elven mage, and I'm  currently over halfway with a Dwarven rogue. I think the main plot suited my Elven mage character better. I had a mage trilogy 'theme' going on throughout the series, which made this character appear more canon, and hence more interesting (in my head). My main gripe with the Inquisitor is that apart from the paragraph of text on their profile card, or the odd bit of dialogue, their backstories/past lives made virtually no impression on the storyline.

 

Ultimately, I liked my slightly camp Elf. I convinced myself that he spoke in a posh accent because he was a spy, and all the best spies talk in received pronunciation. There's no such thing as a Welsh spy.

 

I also liked the fact that he liked Dorian bum, because I like Dorian's bum! 

[Vita Brevis]

 There were times when none of the responses felt right or seemed over the top

Hm... I'm curious - times like what for example?

 

They didn't go this route out of nowhere, but because of past complaints. I agree that *additional* choices might sometimes be necessary, but mostly they worked fine for me.

I don't have a problem with what the Inq do (i.e. to recruit or to disband, to hang or let rot in the prison or humiliate someone), I have a problem with what he says and more importantly, how he says it. I don't feel emotions 99% of the time behind the words at all. That's not right. It's like no matter what you choose he'll be absolutely civile, polite and dull.

Slightly off-topic, but I liked how in the Witcher you could be a d*ck to the certain people but you could've end up wit an arrow in your face and then - game over. Realism, mothef.

[Uccio]

I think if there would have been actual origins for each race and actual family/clan/team/circle members appearing during the game it would have made a much bigger impact. But no, "Yeah mom, I survived a horrible explosion and I´m now the herald of andraste. Don´t come to see me though, it would be embarrasing. And yeah, I got me a girl now, but no, you can´t see her either".

[Kappa Neko]

Sometimes I wonder why Dorian or even Cassandra couldn't have been the lead as they feel more cemented in the world and probably could have given us a richer story.

This. The whole time I kept thinking Cassandra would make a far far better infinitely more interesting protagonist. It's her inquisition anyway. She made it happen. She's so badass, she's close to Shepard glory. This could have been so amazing.

Shepard's rise to near godhood was believable, it felt organic. A soldier through and through. Like Cassandra. They both have a background and a very good reason to be there.

 

Instead I was stuck with my quizzy from nowhere with no personality and a very jarring connection to the whole thing...

[KaiserShep]

Making either Dorian or Cassandra the lead would require gutting their personalities, unless it was a movie or something.

[Vita Brevis]

Instead I was stuck with my quizzy from nowhere with no personality and a very jarring connection to the whole thing...

Yeah, humans I can stomach, but I still can't decide how to play the dalish (or qunari for that matter). They're not suppose to give f at all. And the whole herald bs? It's ridiculous.

[ThreeF]

No. No matter what I do or say he feels like he's a tranquil. And then goes some wtf heroic moment (when you ally with the mages/templars or that speech you give to the wardens) and he goes "watsup It's an honour rawr" and you just "Dude... you're odd as f. Find some middle ground already"

 

That was the mother of all, haha. I stumble on these kind of moments a lot with the female (British voice) it's very prominent if you try to switch from diplomatic to sarcastic most of the times. There are times where I really feel that there were three people voicing this character.

[KaiserShep]

I thought the American female voice did a better job for the most part. She's my canon for the human character. Nuts to the marcher accent.

[Oswin]

I like my inquisitor but I'll admit that it's mostly down to headcannon (although I believe the VAs did a good job). But the same goes for my Warden. It is because of my own headcannon that I became so attached to them. Otherwise they would have just been that silent blank slate following a stroy, to me.

 

Hawke on the other hand, I could never headcannon. They just seemed to have everything laid out already. Sure, the VA's did a great job and Hawke is one of the few things I enjoyed in DA2. But the issue I have is that they became no more different to me than any fixed protagonist from any other game.

 

Half the fun in these games for me is in the character creation.

[Hazegurl]

Making either Dorian or Cassandra the lead would require gutting their personalities, unless it was a movie or something.

Not true, a player should be able to rpg a flashy guy like Dorian or a seasoned warrior like Cassandra if they like, it's just that other opinions should be there in case a player doesn't want to rpg that character type. You don't have to remove all personality from the PC. That's the Quizzy's entire problem. As someone pointed out, they do sound like Tranquils.

 

This. The whole time I kept thinking Cassandra would make a far far better infinitely more interesting protagonist. It's her inquisition anyway. She made it happen. She's so badass, she's close to Shepard glory. This could have been so amazing.

Shepard's rise to near godhood was believable, it felt organic. A soldier through and through. Like Cassandra. They both have a background and a very good reason to be there.

 

Instead I was stuck with my quizzy from nowhere with no personality and a very jarring connection to the whole thing...

That would have been awesome. Dealing with the Seekers on a more personal level, like watching your old squad fall or something, would have been great to experience. To be a believer and then have to truly question it and confront everything you knew and deciding if you will make it better or continue the deceit... If I could have played the male version of Cass (basically Male Shepard) I would have rolled a Warrior in a heartbeat. 

 

If I had to choose a companion I would have enjoyed playing. It would have been Dorian. Starting out leaving home due to a spat with his father, realizing that your former friends are becoming cultists to a being that is everything wrong with your country, wanting to do anything to stop the eventual plummet your beloved country is facing, and confronting Cory who believes you somehow owe him your loyalty. Oh man.

 

For fun, I wouldn't mind being Sera. Imagine if you were just some lovable rogue making some dough and hating on rich folks, then you get a magical anchor that can close rifts, and all you wanna do is chop off your hand cause you're scared shytless. lol!!

[Cha0sEff3ct]

I wish the inquisitor interacted a bit more with the party banter like Hawke did. I haven't heard mine speak once especially when they spoke about my inquisitor. I like how they made Hawke more sarcastic, rude, nice depending on your convo choices so like later on if you did say something rude but have been nice so far the dialogue is adjusted a little so it isn't as rude as a normally rude person. They didn't really do that with the inquisitor, the inquisitor is just bi-polar in mine.

 

I personally find the british female voice spot on. The american voices male and female sound like a bunch of lunkheads and the british male voice is okay but doesn't deliver the lines as good as the british female voice.