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#101
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The Inquisitor doesn't have a personality at all. Even the "emotional" responses are delivered in the flattest way possible. 

 

Personally--I liked Hawke's system. There was a defined character, which was limiting, but not nearly as limiting as this utterly blank slate. I've never been so unenthusiastic about the romances as I am with Inquisition and I think that's why. How can I possibly believe any of my companions would fall for my Inquisitor if they have the personality of a rock? 


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lol!!! I was just thinking of that myself. I have to headcanon a reason why Dorian would like my Quizzy. I guess it's because he helped him out with his dad and amulet and Dorian just wants a nice guy to settle down with. Other than that, idk. lol!


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So far I haven't really felt a compelling connection like I did with Shepard, Hawke, and the Warden.


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For real. 

 

I romanced Solas (big mistake; he's so awkward, the whole romance is weird) and the whole "you change everything! 8D" bit was so unbelievable it made me laugh. I don't think that was the intended effect. How the hell does this hundreds year-old demigod fall for Lavellan when she's slightly more personable than cardboard? 


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I know, right? And oh my god, he did it twice. "Such wisdom, much impressive, wow". And all I wanted to say that I was a nobody but this dork gets grumpy and dissaproves. Solaaas, what's wrong with you. You shouldn't be so impressed with a random human who managed just not to f*ck up things at best. 

And there's also Cass. She dissaproves when I breath and yet I'm amazing and inspiring. Ugh, these people.  <_<  :P


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Not true, a player should be able to rpg a flashy guy like Dorian or a seasoned warrior like Cassandra if they like, it's just that other opinions should be there in case a player doesn't want to rpg that character type. You don't have to remove all personality from the PC. That's the Quizzy's entire problem. As someone pointed out, they do sound like Tranquils.

That would have been awesome. Dealing with the Seekers on a more personal level, like watching your old squad fall or something, would have been great to experience. To be a believer and then have to truly question it and confront everything you knew and deciding if you will make it better or continue the deceit... If I could have played the male version of Cass (basically Male Shepard) I would have rolled a Warrior in a heartbeat. :D

If I had to choose a companion I would have enjoyed playing. It would have been Dorian. Starting out leaving home due to a spat with his father, realizing that your former friends are becoming cultists to a being that is everything wrong with your country, wanting to do anything to stop the eventual plummet your beloved country is facing, and confronting Cory who believes you somehow owe him your loyalty. Oh man.

Yeah, the game could have started with the seekers falling apart and Cass hitting an all time low. Then something like the herald could have happened that gives her new hope. They would have needed to rewrite that of course. Would be weird to have the herald be a companion. So maybe they just found a way to close the breach without it being tied to a specific person. I mean, don't get me wrong, Cassandra's story is woven skillfully into the herald narrative. But they could have pulled it off with Cassandra as the protagonist.
Of course this would have meant playing a pretty predefined character. Like the Witcher maybe with dialogue choices that are within the framework of that character. I would have much preferred that to the soulless IQ. But I get people who want to have their own character to roleplay.

Dorian would be awesome for DA4. DAI is too early. It makes a lot more sense to me to focus on Tevinter in the next game, now that we have such a strong connection between the imperium and the elves.
I'd be all for Dorian then :)

For real.

I romanced Solas (big mistake; he's so awkward, the whole romance is weird) and the whole "you change everything! 8D" bit was so unbelievable it made me laugh. I don't think that was the intended effect. How the hell does this hundreds year-old demigod fall for Lavellan when she's slightly more personable than cardboard?

Hahaha, I'm so with you on this. In retrospect I like the Solas romance. But until the final romance scene I found it so clumsily written I laughed too during the fade scene. There was so little build-up that it felt totally silly that Solas would be so in awe. It certainly doesn't help that the inquisitor is so boring and unimpressive in how she carries herself. She is neither particularly smart or wise (quite ignorant actually, especially about the Dalish) nor authorative. They have a total mentor thing going where he is the sexy smart one. I don't consider them equals at all.


I know, right? And oh my god, he did it twice. "Such wisdom, much impressive, wow". And all I wanted to say that I was a nobody but this dork gets grumpy and dissaproves. Solaaas, what's wrong with you. You shouldn't be so impressed with a random human who managed just not to f*ck up things at best.
And there's also Cass. She dissaproves when I breath and yet I'm amazing and inspiring. Ugh, these people. <_< :P

Yeah, when you have to explain a character's feelings by having them declare them like this, it usually means it's bad writing... it should be obvious without words. Like Shepard. Of course Kaidan would be into my Shepard, she's friggin awesome! I mean, they all had the hero worship going but at least for good reason.
The whole time I thought my quizzy was just there. She just listened to other people tell her smart things and give good advice, and then she'd just go along with one of their ideas. Shepard did things her way and told others what to do. The inquisitor is everyone's puppet to me who is the face of the Inquisition but not the brains at all.
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That was my biggest issue with the game, not actually being in charge of anything. I understand having advisers but about a good portion of the game is "pick which advice you're gonna take".  You're not even in charge of the companions you pick up, and is typically a timid wreck around them if you disagree with anything they have to say.  The Quizzy can't even reply back when a companion says something blatantly misinformed.

 

ex: I tried rolling a Qunari. I got into it with Viv when I mentioned Mages should be free. Viv goes on about how "my people" still cut the tongues out of mages, blah blah. Mind you she is talking to a Qunari MAGE who has his tongue very well in tact. But can I point out how ignorant she is sounding right now? The irony of her saying this to me? That the Vashoth are not a hive mind like the Qun? That yeah, mistrust of mages do still exist because of the fear driven into their minds about them that needs to be countered whether the Circles exist or not?   Nope. I just have to stand there and take my "education" because the Quizzy is a weak ass who doesn't want to anger anyone.

 

Note: I usually agree with Viv and I like her but her flaw is her fear of magic despite being a mage. My qunari had never been in a Circle so I think it wouldn't have worked for him to be all pro Circle knowing what the Qun does to his kind due to their fear of Mages and magic.

 

And yeah there is just no comparing Shepard and the Quizzy. Shepard was amazing and oh man did Sheploo age well (ME3 was the hottest he'd look). I know why Kaidan fell for him. And I agree that when characters have to tell the protagonist how wonderful they are it's usually to prop up a weak leading character. In ME, other characters told Shepard he was amazing but they did it by actually listing the shyt he had done. In DAI, the Quizzy is told what a special snowflake they are by just being a special snowflake.

 

"You've survived a mountain being dropped on you...you are the Jesus of Thedas." :rolleyes:


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For real. 

 

I romanced Solas (big mistake; he's so awkward, the whole romance is weird) and the whole "you change everything! 8D" bit was so unbelievable it made me laugh. I don't think that was the intended effect. How the hell does this hundreds year-old demigod fall for Lavellan when she's slightly more personable than cardboard? 

Haha! He probably doesn't get much success hitting on spirits in the Fade. At least the Inquisitor is corporeal. 

 

Playing a Dwarven Rogue at the moment, and it's dawned on me how desperately I want him to have all the charms/suave/swagger of Varric. Oh, and the chest hair! He just comes across as a bit of a poor imitation, value-range Varric. What Cass sees in my Dwarf, I'll never know.  :(

 

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It's kind of unavoidable that the protagonist is going to be something of a blank slate in the kind of game Bioware makes, I think. That said, I started a replay of Origins after finishing Inquisition and was struck by how much less interesting I found the Warden, apart from headcanon, than the Inquisitor. Having voiceover and mostly-credible expressions does make the Inquisitor much less of a cipher than the Warden, who wears the same :| expression through most of the game.



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Ooh, I'm currently marathon watching The Hobbit & LOTR (In that order) and I just thought up the perfect headcanon for my Mage.

 

He is destined to become like an Istari of Thedas. The Quizzy doesn't know it and neither does anyone else. This is why everyone is subconsciously drawn to him and eager to make him the leader of the Inquisition. This could also explain why Dorian (a Mage) is so attracted to him. My Quizzy essentially just has to stand there and look pretty, which is all he does. lol!

 

It also explains why my Quizzy doesn't counter opposition well from companions, as he's meant to be more of a guide than anything.

 

That's my headcanon and I'm sticking with it.

 

And yes I am a nerd. B)


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ex: I tried rolling a Qunari. I got into it with Viv when I mentioned Mages should be free. Viv goes on about how "my people" still cut the tongues out of mages, blah blah. Mind you she is talking to a Qunari MAGE who has his tongue very well in tact. But can I point out how ignorant she is sounding right now? The irony of her saying this to me? That the Vashoth are not a hive mind like the Qun? That yeah, mistrust of mages do still exist because of the fear driven into their minds about them that needs to be countered whether the Circles exist or not?   Nope. I just have to stand there and take my "education" because the Quizzy is a weak ass who doesn't want to anger anyone.

 

That's the line that follows the "There are no templars among the Tal-Vasoth", right?  Because I'm pretty sure she said they cut the tongues out of weak mages, so thought it was a reasonable response from someone with her perspective.  I would have liked it if Adaar could have followed that up by pointing out that Viv was just as much a randomly lucky mage as well, but I don't think she was ignorant to point it out when she wasn't acting like it was every Vashoth mage.

 

Honestly, Adaar was the Inquisitor that I thought was the most interesting - I thought he had some of best unique options - particularly with Iron Bull and Dorian, but I thought that particular "How did you train?/mage control" talk with Vivienne was actually pretty decent.



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I don't recall the entire convo so I can't tell what line it's after but you're probably right. I didn't catch on to her saying it was done to weak mages. I do recall her mentioning how powerful Qunari Mages are and the training though. See, this is why I would have liked to have seen my origin story, <_<  because from what I do know of the Vashoth is that they are not an organized group of people so what one group may do another may not.  Such as some Vashoth keeping Mages bound due to fear. I still think it would have nice to counter it based on her speaking for a disorganized group as though they were a whole.

 

I liked telling IB to get back cause he was a spy. lol!!



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Not even a little. Nothing about her innate superior fighting ability is explained. The personality is mostly one note and unremarkable. Ironically, it seems that the Inquisitor does not really matter in comparison to his/her advisors and other comrades. If it were not for the anchor, the 'Inquisitor' would be a greater mook for the Inquisition (like a Hurlock Alpha) and that's it.


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It's kind of unavoidable that the protagonist is going to be something of a blank slate in the kind of game Bioware makes, I think. That said, I started a replay of Origins after finishing Inquisition and was struck by how much less interesting I found the Warden, apart from headcanon, than the Inquisitor. Having voiceover and mostly-credible expressions does make the Inquisitor much less of a cipher than the Warden, who wears the same :| expression through most of the game.

Oh, I do NOT understand the love for the silent protagonist. He just stood there like an idiot all the time with the same face, very true. That's why I will always prefer a voiced protagonist, no matter how dull the voice acting may turn out. And comical face animations like the inquisitor is still better than an unmoving mask.

It's just that Bioware did it better in the past with Hawke at least, and Shepard of course. But Shepard's personality might have been more due to my love for Jennifer Hale's acting. It's really all in the acting part imo.

I found the warden more interesting than quizzy storywise though. Has a backstory and rises up to be the hero in a more believable way. He wasn't so much a special snowflake but just a very competent warden of many. Quizzy is SPECIAL special because of that freaky cheesy anchor. That's the only reason the inquisitor has any value. Everyone else is more competent imo. Quizzy just waves around a glowing hand, great. Any idiot could do that.

Why is the herald even at the conclave? To spy... for the vaguest of reasons: to be informed about what's going on. Lol? That's a really really weak excuse. And plays no role whatsoever later on. I was waiting for some big twist how my character is connected to the divine. But nothing of the sort came... just bad luck. Lame.

 

Not even a little. Nothing about her innate superior fighting ability is explained. The personality is mostly one note and unremarkable. Ironically, it seems that the Inquisitor does not really matter in comparison to his/her advisors and other comrades. If it were not for the anchor, the 'Inquisitor' would be a greater mook for the Inquisition (like a Hurlock Alpha) and that's it.

So, this basically.


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 To spy... for the vaguest of reasons: to be informed about what's going on. Lol? That's a really really weak excuse. And plays no role whatsoever later on. I was waiting for some big twist how my character is connected to the divine. But nothing of the sort came... just bad luck. Lame.

 

Aye, that needed to be explored more; good point.



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I don't recall the entire convo so I can't tell what line it's after but you're probably right. I didn't catch on to her saying it was done to weak mages. I do recall her mentioning how powerful Qunari Mages are and the training though. See, this is why I would have liked to have seen my origin story, <_<  because from what I do know of the Vashoth is that they are not an organized group of people so what one group may do another may not. 

 

I think the issue with having an origin story is that some people wanted to play their characters as more or less educated on their heritage.  I picked a lot of the "my parents told me"/tell the truth/"Shanedan" options, but I know there are a fair number of people who play their Adaar Inquisitor as being ignorant of most of that, and a set background would be too limiting to allow for that.

 

I do prefer having the extra content that a more set background allows, but I know that's one of the things some people hated about DA2, so it's a trade off, I suppose.  

 

Anyway, another thing about that particular exchange that I liked is that there's a recurring theme around having the companions saying "Your people are not any better than mine".  Vivienne does it there with Qunari or Elf mages, Iron Bull does it when talking about a baker under the Qun, Dorian does it by comparing slaves to slums - I thought it added something to have that be (potentially) a running disagreement across the conversations.



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I think the only Quizzy who seems to have a good reason to be there is the Qunari one. Being a hired bodyguard in case the fighting breaks out sounds plausible.  Everyone else, I have no clue. Why would a noble from Ostwick have to be there? A Dalish spy? Or worst sending their Keeper to spy :huh:  lol!

 

 

I think the issue with having an origin story is that some people wanted to play their characters as more or less educated on their heritage.  I picked a lot of the "my parents told me"/tell the truth/"Shanedan" options, but I know there are a fair number of people who play their Adaar Inquisitor as being ignorant of most of that, and a set background would be too limiting to allow for that.

 

I do prefer having the extra content that a more set background allows, but I know that's one of the things some people hated about DA2, so it's a trade off, I suppose.  

 

Anyway, another thing about that particular exchange that I liked is that there's a recurring theme around having the companions saying "Your people are not any better than mine".  Vivienne does it there with Qunari or Elf mages, Iron Bull does it when talking about a baker under the Qun, Dorian does it by comparing slaves to slums - I thought it added something to have that be (potentially) a running disagreement across the conversations.

I think they should have found some sort of common ground between those who wish to play themselves dropped into a different world and those who actually want to play a character who lives in it and would thus need have background knowledge to go on other than a place card and two or three sprinkled dialogue options. But there's nothing I can do about that. *shrugs*

 

I've also noticed that most arguments do tend to end the way you say, I don't think there should just be a clear "winner" of a disagreement and I think the game does well to make it so, but I often find the arguments from the companions to be rather fallacious and I think it would have been a good time to give us an actual strong opinion from our Quizzy to further flesh them out. Instead the arguments are usually.

 

Quizzy: "So you have slaves? um, that's bad."

 

Dorian: "Slavery isn't bad in my country! You wouldn't know anything about being poor or a slave either." argument done.

 

Quizzy: :mellow:

 

 

Quizzy: "Mages should be free..."

 

Viv: "Your people cut the tongues out of Mages!" argument done

 

Quizzy: :mellow:



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Why would a Chantry associated noble from Ostwick be there? For a Chantry Conclave? The story was written human-centric first. If anything makes since, it's Trevelyan being there. A much better question is why the Chantry suddenly started hiring Tal Vashoth?  



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Yeah, plausible, but the inquisitor still remains the random janitor who happens to have the key to the bathroom everybody desperately needs to use. God, I had successfully forgotten that this bothered me so much... now that I think about it, the inquisitor is the lamest hero story Bioware ever came up with. What a joke! <_<


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Remember in Dragon Age 2 you could switch to another character and interact with Hawke, and she'd say stuff? She'd act clueless, or claim she didn't lead this band of misfits. That was awesome.

Is the Inquisitor interesting? Kinda, sorta, but-not-really. I really liked Hawke; the Inquisitor just feels like a trespasser in a story meant for someone else. For the most part, my Quizzy is a vehicle to interact with the lovely cast, but on her/his own two feet? Couldn't really care less I'm afraid.
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Remember in Dragon Age 2 you could switch to another character and interact with Hawke, and she'd say stuff? She'd act clueless, or claim she didn't lead this band of misfits. That was awesome.

Is the Inquisitor interesting? Kinda, sorta, but-not-really. I really liked Hawke; the Inquisitor just feels like a trespasser in a story meant for someone else. For the most part, my Quizzy is a vehicle to interact with the lovely cast, but on her/his own two feet? Couldn't really care less I'm afraid.

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I can concede on the noble. He is my canon Quizzy after all. I sort of almost forgot that the Trevelyans are supposed to be well connected within the Chantry.  

 

As for the Qunari, well who else could the Chantry hire? Templars? :P



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Yes.  :ph34r:

 

Yeah, plausible, but the inquisitor still remains the random janitor who happens to have the key to the bathroom everybody desperately needs to use. God, I had successfully forgotten that this bothered me so much... now that I think about it, the inquisitor is the lamest hero story Bioware ever came up with. What a joke! <_<

That's pretty ironic with a Shepard avatar. 



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I find him quite intresnting, I like the British male VA, however the British Female sounds like a robot no offense to her fans, and the American female sounds like she's on drags really, no offense again! 

 

Edit: Btw have you ever notices that in most of the dilaouges the middle one is a sarcastic line in the Inquistor dilaouges I mean like in Hawke's dilaouge wheel 

 

Edit Again: And yes I find my Inquisitor quite emotional :D 



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Alix Wilton Regan is definitely my preferred Inquisitor, with Jon Curry not too far behind.

I don't think the other two are bad per se, but Sumalee Montano never matches my Inquisitor, and Harry Hadden-Paton seems to over-act in ways I don't expect.