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Inquisitor is one that always starts it first!


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#76
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I hate this new system. Feels unnatural and anti-role play freedom
Though this is why fanon exist, amirite?
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I always figured Anders was the Liara of DA and carried a torch for Hawke no matter what, even when he was actively turned down. It suited his character, particularly if Hawke was pro mage. I personally miss NPCs trying to initiate the romance. :/


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You can interpret little things they do as flirty, it's a matter of perspective really. 

Cullen in your first convo with him down by the training soldiers he will give a look that can be taken as a cheeky flirty type smirk. You can even ask him how long he had wanted to kiss you, to which he replies longer than he should admit.

Solas has a line that can be interpreted as a flirt during the fade convo.

You can then reply to these and it could appear that you're just picking up on their flirts and acting on them.

 

I can see why they don't blatantly put in potential LI's making the first move as the game is geared to you moving the game in the direction you want. If you have a dozen ppl hitting on you it might get a little confusing and messy.


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Romances that is!
Am I only one who actually would prefer if our LI options actually were ones that made first move(female LIs I can understand not making first move in here)? It is like you are one that needs to start everything,LI options don't even show 0 interest in you until you make a move.I would usually go and say that I understand Cullen because he never was in love before but hell in DAO even he flirted with my Warden,while with Inquisitor is more like "Oh I didn't noticed you until you gave me a smile and made a move".Also many characters in DAO hit on you first if you gain their approval enough,they will flirt with you first and I liked that but in DA:I no one does first move at all it is always Inquisitor that makes move first,except Sera but she only shows interest in female Qunari.I always expected that of Cullen to be one that becomes shy around you and make some "shy comment" to your Inquisitor first like he did with Warden if you get his approval high for example,then IB to make first move as Zevran did,Blackwall,Dorian...all dead silent until you make first move.I just wish if they made at least some comment on your Inquisitor that shows they actually have thing for you,as Leliana said in DAO "Oh, chivalry is so dead. Making the lady spill her guts like that...".

Yes


A thousand times yes


I would love a LI That actually pursues my character
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People already complain about Bull being too creepy and aggressive when he  comes to your bedroom after flirting with a brick wall non stop. Just imagine how much rage there would have been if he initiated, LOL.

The problem with the Bull is not what he does but how he does it.

I have to point out that Dorian, for example, also comes to the Inq and he kinda acts all predatory-like but I honestly don't remember anyone freaking out about it. Plus, it helps that you basically can tell him to slow down a little - an option you don't have with the bull at all. 

Just imagine Cass, Cullen or Jossie making the first (or rather the second) step instead. It would've been adorable. No matter what they do they are freaking cute.


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I always figured Anders was the Liara of DA and carried a torch for Hawke no matter what, even when he was actively turned down. It suited his character, particularly if Hawke was pro mage. I personally miss NPCs trying to initiate the romance. :/

Nope.Leliana is one that has honor of being Liara of DA,unlike her you can kill Anders and get rid of him permanently.


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I think when it comes to Dorian flirting with fem!quizzy over m!quizzy is part of his character. In Tevinter favoring your own gender is...a really bad thing. Thus, he's learned to hide it by flirting openly/overly with women.

Though that's certainly possible, there's probably a more mundane explanation. I'm a gay male, and a few of my female friends and I are quite flirtatious in a playful way IRL, there are even a couple that I greet as "beautiful/gorgeous" and play the "chivalrous/gentleman" role with, all in fun of course. That's mainly because we both know there is nothing there, nothing seriously romantic about it. Definitely don't have a relationship like that with any male friends, it would lead to awkwardness for varying reasons.



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lol Alistair was really bad for that when he is telling you about being royalty and how he doesn't want you to treat him differently. And you can tell him something like I like you for who you are. he suddenly thinks your madly in love with him and then you have to "break up" with his ass and every thing gets weird from there.


I always responded to that by calling him a Royal Bastard and then he'd lol and all would be well. :D
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I'm assuming that you weren't around for Andersgate 2011, huh?  Short version?  Because Anders hit on Hawke (specifically male Hawke) without Hawke initiating it, some people were highly offended.  Now it might have to do with the somewhat limited ways that Hawke can respond, but I'll leave that for people who can actually explain it better.  Gaider has since stated on his blog that it's unlikely that they'll ever have an LI initiate the overt flirting/romance dialogue again. 

At least it'd be the same across the board. I'd rather have either both genders flirt or neither initiate flirts. It's usually female NPCs flirt and male NPCs don't. In Mass Effect you didn't even have control over Shep's reaction to Asari hitting on them, they always got the "aww yeeeaaaah" face no matter their gender or orientation.


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you can kill Anders and get rid of him permanently.


So far.

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I dunno, this can lead to some problems. 

 

Leliana made most of the first moves on a female Warden, and the amount of times I've heard about her getting the complete wrong signals...  :P


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As others have said, people(namely straight men) hated the fact that Anders would blatantly flirt with Hawke regardless of whether or not the player initiates it. If I remember right, there is one scene where there is no possible way to not get rivalry points unless you choose the heart option. So, I'm guessing Bioware made it so that wouldn't happen again.

 

I never disliked it, infact I liked the fact that Anders had a crush on and flirts with Hawke regardless of whether or not he/she pursues him. I rarely romanced him in DA2, but it adds depth and realism to the game and characters to portray un-reciprocated love. Similar to how people don't always feel mutually about each other irl. 

 

But the whole "party member having a crush on the PC" thing works better with DA2 than DA:I. In DA2, Hawke is just a normal person for most of the game, he/she is not on some grand quest to save the world like the Inquisitor is, and the party members are just his/her friends. But in DA:I the Inquisitor's party members are his/her subordinates with the Inquisitor as the leader. I always imagine that none of the LI's in DA:I attempt to initiate with the Inquisitor because he/she is their boss, and they see it as inappropriate. For example, in the Cullen romance he pretty much tells femInquis that he has had feelings for her for awhile but never acted on them because of her status as his boss. Same thing with Cass.

 

But, if you do want someone more aggressive in DA:I, go for Bull or Dorian. You do still have to flirt with them to initiate, but they are technically the ones that will approach the Inquisitor first to "officially" begin the romance. As far as I know, none of the other love interests do that.


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That's a good point, actually.

 

If you romance Sera, and get the "Thoughts about us?" dialogue option, she replies with this, "You're alright. Like the first time I laid eyes on you, I wanted to lay other things."



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At least it'd be the same across the board. I'd rather have either both genders flirt or neither initiate flirts. It's usually female NPCs flirt and male NPCs don't. In Mass Effect you didn't even have control over Shep's reaction to Asari hitting on them, they always got the "aww yeeeaaaah" face no matter their gender.

 

I seriously killed that green Asari chick to avoid that.

 

I'm not even kidding.



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 But in DA:I the Inquisitor's party members are his/her subordinates with the Inquisitor as the leader.

Meh. Of all people there it only applies for Cullen truly. Even for Cass not so much.



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I always responded to that by calling him a Royal Bastard and then he'd lol and all would be well. :D

I would have picked that if I new the first time. My supa nice warden did't want to hurt his feeling. leliana was not amused ;-;



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I think they could have still had companions hit on the PC. But add a turn down that is nice or jerky. Get your disapproval, and all flirtations with that companion is nipped along with any chance at romancing them. End of all problems. And considering that romances are race and gender gated, only the companions you can romance will do it and only if it fits their character.

 

ex: Can't see Cass hitting on the Quizzy but IB seems like the type that would.

 

And yeah. I hated it whenever an Asari hit on my gay Shepard. I just headcanon that his balls are so blue waiting on Kaidan that he'll take some affection from anyone.



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ex: Can't see Cass hitting on the Quizzy but IB seems like the type that would.

Well not like that. Not like walking in the Inq's room and be all "you wanna piece of me"? And not necessarily doing the very first step, but god damn they're not doing any steps. 



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Ah Anders. I was all "diplomatic" Hawke and all when suddenly two option in dialog wheel with heart and only one to say I'm not interested and that one gives me disapproval. So yeah that comic is more then accurate.


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No, not just walking in the bedroom. But flirt during a convo and then the Quizzy can either flirt back or reject and call it a day.  I'm glad I've never flirted with IB enough to get him walking all up in my room.  I usually lock in Dorian early. ^_^



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I agree with the OP... the Cassandra romance felt very one sided to me, as she simply brushed off the Inquisitor's flirting at every turn.  I actually thought I had done something wrong and had accidentally ended the chances of a romance somehow because there was no progress until about 80 (!!!) hours into the game when I happened to stumble onto the quest that allowed it to go further... not particularly satisfying, to say the least.


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I agree with the OP... the Cassandra romance felt very one sided to me, as she simply brushed off the Inquisitor's flirting at every turn. I actually thought I had done something wrong and had accidentally ended the chances of a romance somehow because there was no progress until about 80 (!!!) hours into the game when I happened to stumble onto the quest that allowed it to go further... not particularly satisfying, to say the least.


I romanced Cassandra 30 hrs in, you are doing it wrong anyways it's totally normal that Her romance be one sided, she almost 40 and had only dated 1 other guy before you so one could come to the conclusion that she doesn't just go around giving it up to anyone.
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I romanced Cassandra 30 hrs in, you are doing it wrong anyways it's totally normal that Her romance be one sided, she almost 40 and had only dated 1 other guy before you so one could come to the conclusion that she doesn't just go around giving it up to anyone.

There was no indication that the romance was tied into a personal quest that didn't even show up until very late in the game, so I'm not sure what exactly I "did wrong"... or do you just enjoy repeating phrases you hear on the internet?  As for the rest, I didn't like the romance, period.  What you've written isn't much of a justification for zero interest shown on her end until a specific quest is completed.



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If the quest didn't show up until late in the game, your approval with Cassandra must have been low for a long time. Once you get Skyhold, Cass's companion quests and romance questline are only tied to approval.
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I wish Bioware would bring this back, except refine it like someone said.