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#101
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If the quest didn't show up until late in the game, your approval with Cassandra must have been low for a long time. Once you get Skyhold, Cass's companion quests and romance questline are only tied to approval.

I don't see how that's possible... not that I had any way to track approval, but I don't remember seeing enough "disapproval" messages to make me think that was an issue.  I remember this happening after I'd scoured Ferelden and Orlais looking for... rebel mages or templars... whatever that quest was.  Or maybe that's how I got approval gains from her?  I guess that's possible... yeah... since there's no real way to know what my approval score was, I guess maybe I just didn't gain much until doing that quest, and then the Seekers quest was unlocked.  Still, she didn't seem like she disliked the Inquisitor, so this is kind of a long shot...

 

Well, be that as it may, it still felt one-sided.  I remember Dorian's romance and personal quest unlocked almost immediately after recruiting him on that playthrough and I'd barely spoken to him.  Perhaps a glitch was involved?



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I hate this new system. Feels unnatural and anti-role play freedom
Though this is why fanon exist, amirite?


This. I was trying to romance The Iron Bull with my male elf, and he just ruined it so many times he had my Inquisitor in tears, going up to Leliana's attic crying into her shoulder and asking her, "Am I ugly Leliana? Does everyone hate me? It's the hair isn't it?! Nobody wants meeeee!"

IB: ...they can give this place back to the damn elves.
Inq: What do you mean damn elves? =(

IB: ...and you have pointy ears and those big, freaky eyes...
Inq: Are... are they not pretty? ='(

IB (to Cassandra): Oh, yeah, you fightin' those dragons gurl. I bet you looked good doin' it gurl. Ngh.
Inq: Bull, we fought a dragon not 20 minutes ago. And I was hot! Though I guess you couldn't see me 1v1'ing her 'cause you were face-down unconscious in the dirt...

IB (about Dorian): Careful, it's always the pretty ones...
Inq: He never calls me pretty. *cries*

And one time I swear he asked my Inquisitor to pay him after sex!

Inq: What, this is like a job for you?
IB: Yep, and my rate's 500 gold per hour, so that's 1000 gold.
Inq: My life is a lie!

"Romance" XP
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There was no indication that the romance was tied into a personal quest that didn't even show up until very late in the game, so I'm not sure what exactly I "did wrong"... or do you just enjoy repeating phrases you hear on the internet? As for the rest, I didn't like the romance, period. What you've written isn't much of a justification for zero interest shown on her end until a specific quest is completed.


Do I enjoy repeating phrases I hear on the Internet ? Ironic since that one is one of the most used but I digress, my " you did it wrong " stems from the fact it took you 80 hrs to be able to start her romance, prior to your last post you didn't say why it took you that long and since I'm not a mind reader I can only assume that, since she doesn't really initiate the romance, that there was something you weren't doing right

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Do I enjoy repeating phrases I hear on the Internet ? Ironic since that one is one of the most used but I digress, my " you did it wrong " stems from the fact it took you 80 hrs to be able to start her romance, prior to your last post you didn't say why it took you that long and since I'm not a mind reader I can only assume that, since she doesn't really initiate the romance, that there was something you weren't doing right

Well, if you can't read minds, then maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions.  If you were interested in anything other than being obnoxious, you could have simply asked about the situation.



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Blackwall also initiates the romance by showing up in your room, although it's from a way more innocent place than Iron Bull's "let's do it" visit.  

 

Blackwall definitely also does an univited flirt as previously mentioned - it's pretty obvious from his tone and the way he calls you an admirable woman.  If you respond with a flirt and keep doing so, then he invites you on a short quest that's romance related, then he shows up in your room and at that point you can enter the romance officially.  He really makes most of the moves, now that I think about it.  You do get a flirt option that comes up when you first meet him, but even if you don't take it, he still gives you the "admirable woman" line later.

 

Cullen and Cassandra not hitting on you first makes total sense, or Josephine, since they are your advisors.  It's really inappropriate to be macking on the CEO like that in a life or death situation, so it makes sense from a story perspective that the 'Quiz has to make the first move.  If things went sour with any of them it would be a big blow to the Inquisition, whereas companions can just leave.

 

Reading some of these comments made me realize how much I missed making Alistair laugh. People will chuckle at you here and there in DA:I but it's not the same!


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Well, if you can't read minds, then maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions.  If you were interested in anything other than being obnoxious, you could have simply asked about the situation.

Perhaps it would be wise to practice what you preach, who is jumping to conclusions now? :rolleyes: i re read my post i dont see a shred of mal intention in it , overly sensitive people these days anyways as you were.



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This. I was trying to romance The Iron Bull with my male elf, and he just ruined it so many times he had my Inquisitor in tears, going up to Leliana's attic crying into her shoulder and asking her, "Am I ugly Leliana? Does everyone hate me? It's the hair isn't it?! Nobody wants meeeee!"

IB: ...they can give this place back to the damn elves.
Inq: What do you mean damn elves? =(

IB: ...and you have pointy ears and those big, freaky eyes...
Inq: Are... are they not pretty? ='(

IB (to Cassandra): Oh, yeah, you fightin' those dragons gurl. I bet you looked good doin' it gurl. Ngh.
Inq: Bull, we fought a dragon not 20 minutes ago. And I was hot! Though I guess you couldn't see me 1v1'ing her 'cause you were face-down unconscious in the dirt...

IB (about Dorian): Careful, it's always the pretty ones...
Inq: He never calls me pretty. *cries*

And one time I swear he asked my Inquisitor to pay him after sex!

Inq: What, this is like a job for you?
IB: Yep, and my rate's 500 gold per hour, so that's 1000 gold.
Inq: My life is a lie!

"Romance" XP

lol 



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And one time I swear he asked my Inquisitor to pay him after sex!

Allright, enough BSN for me for today. 


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#109
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Yep, typical BioWare loading the bazooka to kill a fly.

LOL, this *is* how Bioware deals with criticism, isn't it? *g* I would find it kinda cute if it wasn't so damn frustrating.

I miss DAO style relationship dynamics. I like companions showing interest in you in a SUBTLE or clumsy way. But Anders was just creepy. I played female the first time and it was still so awful that I changed my mind about romancing him. It may have been in character for Anders but anyone who comes on so strong freaks me out. No thanks.
Anders was way too crude a hookup and such a drama queen about it. Just creepy. So I'm glad DAI had no such... incident. But of course Bioware had to take that to mean they better make the inquisitor the creep who comes on to people like a horny teenager *sigh* I will never understand how my quizzy got from mild flirtation with Solas to sticking her tongue down his throat in a split-second. That totally killed the mood for me.
I mean, it's not as bad as Shepard and Jacob. Nothing is as bad as that creep-show... but I wish things were a bit more dynamic again.

However, I prefer DAI to how they handled Mass Effect with everyone throwing themselves at Shepard. Very Witcher-like.
It makes sense for Cullen and Cassandra to not flirt. It would look very unprofessional. Same with Josephine, but she has a good moment to start a romance naturally on the balcony after she vented all her emotions.
I find most of the inquisitor flirts quite painful. I hate obvious stuff like pretty much everything she says to Cullen that makes him uncomfortable for good reason.
The second or third flirt with Cass when quizzy laughs away was pretty bad too. Very crude and weird. However, I find her annoyance with flirting cute as hell and fitting for her character. It's not true that she doesn't like it though. There's this sweet smile when you compliment her first. She likes it when you say nice things to her (as a female IQ too) that feel appropriate. She just doesn't like obvious flaunting. Nor does she know what to do with it. I can relate, I'm the same.

Solas is flirty in a very sneaky way. I liked that. But as stated above, quizzy ruins what could have been such a delightful dance of two smart people voicing their attraction in a restrained code language. That would have been so hot and such a great build-up... such wasted potential!

I guess my complaint is that most of the flirting coming from the IQ is bad on top of it all feeling too one-sided, even though it makes sense for half of the characters in the beginning.
I don't mind companions making the first move at all if done with subtlety. So that you can reject them softly and they get it and that's it. All dealt with smoothly during normal conversation. But Bioware is unfortunately not known for pulling this off very often. Either your character is creepy or your companions are creepy.

#110
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I think they made it that way cuz in DA2 ppl would end up in a romance with Anders when not trying to. Or they felt the game was forcing the romance cuz by Act2 he's practically throwing himself at Hawke. Also in origins if your approval with a companion got so high they'd start flirting with you and if you didn't want that romance you had to turn em down and gained alot of their disapproval.

 

To be fair you couldn't just tell Anders "sorry I'm not interested" without him blowing up in your face. I disliked him on the spot right there because of that (and it also spoiled the end game surprise for me)



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To be fair you couldn't just tell Anders "sorry I'm not interested" without him blowing up in your face. I disliked him on the spot right there because of that (and it also spoiled the end game surprise for me)


Well iirc it wasn't so much a "sorry I'm not interested" as it was a "get your filthy hands off me you abomination" so it's no wonder he gets upset. Which is the only thing that bothered me about it, that there wasn't that "sorry I'm not interested" option. Unless you're talking about a different moment?
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I find it funny they found 1 line where they were not in control over what's going on to be so frightening.

Too bad. T'was so much fun to read their butthurt.

 

Uh... no. They won't. They'll just accept it and you still will have to do 90% of the work. 

 

That was one of the complaints about DA2 in general. People didn't feel like they were in control so they disliked the story.

 

This is the thing that I always find odd.  People want realistic reactions from the companions.  But then, when they give you an incredibly realistic reaction from Anders (a notoriously moody, emotional, and irrational man who is slowly losing his grip on sanity), they complain.  I just don't get it.  How else would you expect Anders to react when you reject him while he's in a vulnerable state?

 

He should handle it how EVERYONE ELSE handles it. When people get rejected they totally don't get emotional about it...

 

They just carry on with their lives as if nothing happened...  :rolleyes:

 

I dunno, this can lead to some problems. 

 

Leliana made most of the first moves on a female Warden, and the amount of times I've heard about her getting the complete wrong signals...  :P

 

Shocking that.

 

Perhaps it would be wise to practice what you preach, who is jumping to conclusions now? :rolleyes: i re read my post i dont see a shred of mal intention in it , overly sensitive people these days anyways as you were.

 

Passive aggressive much?



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Well iirc it wasn't so much a "sorry I'm not interested" as it was a "get your filthy hands off me you abomination" so it's no wonder he gets upset. Which is the only thing that bothered me about it, that there wasn't that "sorry I'm not interested" option. Unless you're talking about a different moment?

I agree I hated that I had just a option of get away from me you abomation, which to me sounded way to much like somthing my character would not say to him. I had to gain rivraly with him but easily got his approval up by being pro mage and being a friend to him. I still hated we only got this option by saying that stupid dialog system.

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Dreamine, not everyone can be non emotional after being told they are a filthy abomation and too keep away from them. I wanted to slap my Hawke after that peace of dialog from her she sounded so rude and not somthing my Hawke would say to let him down easily.

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My only problem with the current game, in regards to romances is....

 

Cringe-worthy pick up lines.

 

Seriously.

 

"I hope you stick around Sera, I hope you'll feel the same way."


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How dare anyone be attracted to my PC without my express permission :lol: whatever will I do?

In all seriousness, I do miss the idea that the companions found something in my PC to catch their eye. Otherwise it's very much like hunting down that halla in the Exalted plains, herding your chosen LI up and flirting them into submission. It's not the best dynamic for a situation where the Inquisitor is already in a position of power over the NPC's.
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#117
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Well iirc it wasn't so much a "sorry I'm not interested" as it was a "get your filthy hands off me you abomination" so it's no wonder he gets upset. Which is the only thing that bothered me about it, that there wasn't that "sorry I'm not interested" option. Unless you're talking about a different moment?

 

I'm talking about the very very beginning, when you first meet him and he just start to flirt  the very first time (and you  don't even know  him that well or that he is an abomination) you have the option to turn him down and he just goes "omg, how dare you I thought we were meant to be!" or something like that. It was a very "wtf, dude? we just met." moment for me. The whole way that particular dialogue was handled was a real mess.



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My only problem with the current game, in regards to romances is....

Cringe-worthy pick up lines.

Seriously.

"I hope you stick around Sera, I hope you'll feel the same way."

If you want to talk about that report in my quarters, Cullen I would appreciate that.
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I'm talking about the very very beginning, when you first meet him and he just start to flirt the very first time (and you don't even know him that well or that he is an abomination) you have the option to turn him down and he just goes "omg, how dare you I thought we were meant to be!" or something like that. It was a very "wtf, dude? we just met." moment for me. The whole way that particular dialogue was handled was a real mess.

Yeah I agree this particular dialogue also was not handled well since it had two moments of hearts and that we just met dude. You did not act like that with the, Commander I guess Justice made the dude verily emotional about things.

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This. I was trying to romance The Iron Bull with my male elf, and he just ruined it so many times he had my Inquisitor in tears, going up to Leliana's attic crying into her shoulder and asking her, "Am I ugly Leliana? Does everyone hate me? It's the hair isn't it?! Nobody wants meeeee!"

IB: ...they can give this place back to the damn elves.
Inq: What do you mean damn elves? =(

IB: ...and you have pointy ears and those big, freaky eyes...
Inq: Are... are they not pretty? ='(

IB (to Cassandra): Oh, yeah, you fightin' those dragons gurl. I bet you looked good doin' it gurl. Ngh.
Inq: Bull, we fought a dragon not 20 minutes ago. And I was hot! Though I guess you couldn't see me 1v1'ing her 'cause you were face-down unconscious in the dirt...

IB (about Dorian): Careful, it's always the pretty ones...
Inq: He never calls me pretty. *cries*

And one time I swear he asked my Inquisitor to pay him after sex!

Inq: What, this is like a job for you?
IB: Yep, and my rate's 500 gold per hour, so that's 1000 gold.
Inq: My life is a lie!

"Romance" XP

lol so true xD

Poor your Inky though  :(



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This. I was trying to romance The Iron Bull with my male elf, and he just ruined it so many times he had my Inquisitor in tears, going up to Leliana's attic crying into her shoulder and asking her, "Am I ugly Leliana? Does everyone hate me? It's the hair isn't it?! Nobody wants meeeee!"

IB: ...they can give this place back to the damn elves.
Inq: What do you mean damn elves? =(

IB: ...and you have pointy ears and those big, freaky eyes...
Inq: Are... are they not pretty? ='(

IB (to Cassandra): Oh, yeah, you fightin' those dragons gurl. I bet you looked good doin' it gurl. Ngh.
Inq: Bull, we fought a dragon not 20 minutes ago. And I was hot! Though I guess you couldn't see me 1v1'ing her 'cause you were face-down unconscious in the dirt...

IB (about Dorian): Careful, it's always the pretty ones...
Inq: He never calls me pretty. *cries*

And one time I swear he asked my Inquisitor to pay him after sex!

Inq: What, this is like a job for you?
IB: Yep, and my rate's 500 gold per hour, so that's 1000 gold.
Inq: My life is a lie!

"Romance" XP

I'm crying with your Inquisitor :lol:

 

Personally I'm not buying the "no hitting on boss" arguement. You're not a boss til Skyhold. In fact you're just some dude that fell out of the Breach, you have no authority and you're running errands for everyone in the beginning. I can't see how all of the advisors would be in such an awe of the Inquisitor. Actually, you're their creation, not some big bad boss.

I would like to see them a bit more active personally. Just a bit. One or two lines would do it. I've just romanced Cullen with my IQ and flirted with Solas. And I've seen a couple of other romances on youtube. Solas flirtation seems the most natural. Not too forced. With Cullen, who never expressed any interest in the IQ in the beginning, it was all awkward smiles and uncomfortable questions. I mean, would you really ask a preson who actually has the real position in power at the moment, and is commanding the army, and who you don't know that well yet, would you ask him if he has taken the vow of celibacy? Awkward... :D



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lol!!  I wonder if anyone has caught on to the fact that Quizzy is the Anders of their group. :ph34r:


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#123
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 With Cullen, who never expressed any interest in the IQ in the beginning, it was all awkward smiles and uncomfortable questions. I mean, would you really ask a preson who actually has the real position in power at the moment, and is commanding the army, and who you don't know that well yet, would you ask him if he has taken the vow of celibacy? Awkward... :D

 

That was one of the funnies moment, because in that dialogue line you can't see the Inquisitor as anything but a dog with a bone. (target found!)

 

I also think that the whole flirting becomes more natural with him if initiated after you get to Skyhold.


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*shrug* I hope they keep it this way honestly.

 

Yes my Quizzy can be a creeper but that's only if I mash each and every flirt. I picked a few key ones and was golden :P



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lol!!  I wonder if anyone has caught on to the fact that Quizzy is the Anders of their group. :ph34r:

 

All the Cassandra flirts were innocent! Honest!