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[Beomer]

It's been a while since I read The Calling, but IIRC there was a taint repelling dagger or something that belonged to the Architect and had been found by Duncan that was somehow involved in helping Fiona remove her taint.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

It's been a while since I read The Calling, but IIRC there was a taint repelling dagger or something that belonged to the Architect and had been found by Duncan that was somehow involved in helping Fiona remove her taint.

this just sounds

so funny

 

Fiona we are going to cut the flesh between your vagina and your arse off so you don't have to be a grey warden anymore 

[Daerog]

No, the dagger belonged to the First Enchanter. He made it in secret, without the Architect knowing about it. He made it as a precaution, but Duncan decided to go all Video Game Protagonist and break into his quarters to look for some loot while he was visiting the Circle in Fereldan for the first time.

 

 

Fiona never had the dagger, and Duncan had it on his person the whole novel, which is why he remained a normal GW.

 

 

Edit: If anything, that dagger was likely taken by GW HQ and analyzed because that is one incredibly important dagger, being able to repel blight magic and such. If we do go to the Anderfels and the story involves the GWs again, I hope we can get that dagger or find it or something.

 

Seriously, a new form of magic and enchanting is done by a First Enchanter, using the blight and not being a Warden, and there is nothing about its impact with the Wardens after 10+ years? Maybe that is why the GWs are getting a little weird, more blight revelations and such...

[NedPepper]

You just answered yourself. You can talk to all of Orzammar about Bhelen and Harrowmont. You have time, you work for them and you see how they work. That's an introduction, it tells you a lot about their characters even if you aren't a dwarf yourself.

 

Nothing like that happens with Celene, Briala or Gaspard. Even the civil war is only mentioned, despite the Inquisitor running around on the Exalted Plains. I think I helped some soldiers with the demons but don't ask me what side they were on.

 

What more is needed? Well, how about -anything- that would allow me to form an opinion about them? You meet each for a few minutes. Should I make Gaspard king because he says he hates the Game? Should I allow Briala access to the throne because Leliana tells me she used to be Celene's lover? Should I support Celene because she's the rightful queen? That's basically all I know about them. Oh, I am sure there are probably some more info tidbits somewhere in the palace but you don't exactly have time to explore it, do you?

Well, if it makes you feel any better, after reading the book and really getting to know their characters and really looking forward to seeing their actual debuts in the game....it is wholly underwhelming for the very reasons you say.  Nothing in the novels about who these people are really comes into play in the few minutes you interact with them in the game.  So, even if you have read the books, everything about the Civil War in the game is still underwhelming.

This is where the thought process of "maybe they should just stick to making Dragon Age a series of novels" comes in.  If the books tell the story better than the game, there's problems.  The Masked Empire was supposed to be an appetizer to Inquisition's main dish.  Problem is that the main dish was completely undercooked.

[NedPepper]

On a side-note, is The Calling actually good? I tried to read Stolen Throne but the poor writing style just kept grating on me.

Gaider gets significantly better with each novel.  And Patrick Weekes did pretty well his first time out.  The only exception is Last Flight, which was written by someone not on DA writing staff.  That book felt a bit lifeless and bland.  (Lesson:  Don't outsource your novels, Bioware.)

[elnawawi]

Gaider gets significantly better with each novel.  And Patrick Weekes did pretty well his first time out.  The only exception is Last Flight, which was written by someone not on DA writing staff.  That book felt a bit lifeless and bland.  (Lesson:  Don't outsource your novels, Bioware.)

 

No way! Last Flight was the best out of the five books they published!

 

And I mean it, no joking, It was 10x better than the first two books Gaider wrote, and still a step over Asunder and a half step over The Masked Empire (Masked Empire would be better for anyone who loves history and lore and culture lessons more than the plot)

 

But discussing quality of books is off-topic anyway.

 

I've played DA:O, and DA2 games first, and then read The Stolen Throne and The Calling, and it didn't strike me at first that this baby from the story is Alistair, until some time later when I read another hint on forums .

 

And you know what? It didn't matter.. knowing or not knowing, Even in DA:I when you finally meet Fiona in game, and she actually asks about her son. It's like what people call "Easter egg" , but nothing major, nor secondary, only very minor. And for people who didn't read, they would get it anyway from people talking about it, there are so many in-game twists that you play and see and don't get until someone else tells you anyway... what difference this is?

 

And if it affects the reader of the books in anyway, it would be that "underwhelming" feeling you get for all characters from the books who turn up in game...

 

Loghain should be big villain of DA:O (second to the archdemon) and yet he is pretty plain compared to the books. Duncan, Fiona, Utha, Briala, Celene, Gaspard, Michael, and even Imshael the demon!

 

Evangline and Rhys is merely mentioned and involves one or two war table operations, though I think they would be more interesting as in-game characters than half of DA:I minor and secondary characters, even more interesting and well written than some of your companions !

 

The really great exception is of course Cole, whom Patricks Weeks did more than an amazing job to pull him like that, now that one in the game makes you almost forget how he was in the books, he have developed past this, grew up, instead of the "grow down" the other characters does!

 

Ok, and back to Fiona from DA:I , she was a big disappointment from any prospective , and it's obvious that the Architect magic is what cleansed her of taint, but she doesn't understand how, nor wardens understand, nor HoF does, nor the Inq with all secrets they exposed is able to get even a hundred leagues near it... So .. It's still a big game device that shall be revealed at some point - unnecessarily  with Fiona involved .. Her part is over , I think.

[Daerog]

Necromancer skill level up!

Raising 1+ year old thread.

Mortalitasi greatly approves!

[Draining Dragon]

I'm here because somebody liked one of my posts from over a year ago.

 

Been doing a bit of gravedigging, have we?

[DaemionMoadrin]

I'm here because somebody liked one of my posts from over a year ago.

 

Been doing a bit of gravedigging, have we?

 

The same happened to me. ^^

 

I probably should go and like a few posts here myself since I never did it when the thread was active - a mod saw my comment on the first page and decided I needed to be suspended for a week. But ... eh, I don't even care anymore.