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[Qun00]

I'm at the point where Josephine asks whether you will officially recognize your title or not.

What I want to know is, how does it affect the story if I say no?

Personally, my plan was to have my character remain skeptical until something happens and changes her mind.

She's not the religious type so I decided she would resist against the idea.

But at the same time, it seems dumb not to acknowledge there is a connection at least. I mean, the character met Andraste herself right in the beginning of the game.

[AlexiaRevan]

Up to ya...

 

ya can try it and see...the Truth is outta there anyway ! 

[Red of Rivia]

I was not the religious type, but I accepted the mantle of Herald.

 

[Nimlowyn]

My Andrastian was hesitant but ultimately believed she was chosen. My Dalish is gonna be like y'all crazy if I'm chosen by anyone it is Mythal. In my experience the choice was all about characterization.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I think your feeling on your title is one of the dialogue choices that has a small effect on who becomes Divine, IIRC.

My Qunari was actually an Andrastian, so she accepted the title rather fast. I like to think it gave her a bit more purpose in this religion she was always semi-subscribed to but she was an outsider in, so she latched to that.

My Dalish Mage was a bit more skeptical, but she was open minded about it. She didn't really accept it until after In Your Heart Shall Burn, where she started to understand Andrastianism a bit more, and perhaps started to agree with Cassandra's 'Is there not room for one more god?' idea.

And either way I don't feel very good about shouting out 'This is all a lie!'

Let the people believe and have a little hope, I say. Regardless of personal feelings. As Blackwall said about it, the truth doesn't matter.

[errantknight]

My inquisitor was fairly devout, if quiet about it. That actually made it harder for him to accept the title because it seemed so damned presumptuous, lol. He was more, 'I'm not sure'. He really, really wanted to believe it. When saving the world, it really takes the pressure off it God is actually on your side, lol.

[Scuttlebutt101]

Your stance on being the Herald will be brought up in some dialogues with Mother Giselle, at least, but I'm not sure whether that specific bit with Josephine affects it or not. 

[Hazegurl]

I usually pick "That's private" keep'em guessing. lol! This time I picked that I was chosen but I still told Cass I didn't believe in the Maker. My Quizzy is just using these sheep at this point.

[Qun00]

To be honest, it seems hard not to have at least some level of hesitation.

I mean, what kind of douchebag would instantly go "Hells yeah, I'm the messiah!!"?

lol

[Dean_the_Young]

To be honest, it seems hard not to have at least some level of hesitation.

I mean, what kind of douchebag would instantly go "Hells yeah, I'm the messiah!!"?

lol

 

A standard PC?

[Korva]

My inquisitor was fairly devout, if quiet about it. That actually made it harder for him to accept the title because it seemed so damned presumptuous, lol. He was more, I'm not sure. He really, really wanted to believe it. When saving the world, it really takes the pressure off it God is actually on your side, lol.

 

"Presumptous" is a good word for how my Karis felt about it at first, yes. She was really torn between fearing it was blasphemy and fiercely wishing it was true so the world had some hope. At the same time, the thought of having Andraste and the Maker on her side was almost more terrifying than comforting -- what if she screws it up?! Being the ray of light for people to hold on to is sobering enough (hello, The Dawn Will Come), being the instrument of divine will is flat-out overwhelming.

 

In the end, she decided that being torn, searching and questioning is good, because too many noble causes and people have fallen to corruption based in no small part on being entirely too sure of themselves. She very much agreed with Cassandra's musings on the fate and future of the Seekers, later on.

[wright1978]

I was pretty much against the herald of Andraste nonsense from the get go. it came up from time to time along the line, though I would like to have had at least one opportunity to tell scout Harding I didn't appreciate being called 'your worship'. I largely had fun fighting the tide in terms of this issue.

[Kinsz]

To be honest, it seems hard not to have at least some level of hesitation.

I mean, what kind of douchebag would instantly go "Hells yeah, I'm the messiah!!"?

lol

My inquisitor told anyone who cared to hear it that he was the Herald, when people denied him things he always went " what? you refuse the Herald? "

[Korva]

What I want to know is, how does it affect the story if I say no?

 

Oops, forgot to answer this. A "faithful" protagonist will occasionally have dialog options that you don't see otherwise -- I think it hinges more on the player expressing general Andrastian belief, but accepting you're the Herald plays into that too. So it's no big change, just some welcome RP flavor. For example, if you've been faithful, you can dedicate the Inquisition to "a higher purpose", and later on you can forgive someone in Andraste's name to help them make peace with themselves. Little touches like that.

[LobselVith8]

I'm at the point where Josephine asks whether you will officially recognize your title or not.

What I want to know is, how does it affect the story if I say no?

It's simply for roleplay purposes. It doesn't drastically impact the story.

Personally, my plan was to have my character remain skeptical until something happens and changes her mind.

She's not the religious type so I decided she would resist against the idea.

But at the same time, it seems dumb not to acknowledge there is a connection at least. I mean, the character met Andraste herself right in the beginning of the game.

I don't think it's dumb. No one knows what really happened in the beginning, and it's simply the interpretation of some people that it was Andraste. My Lavellan had no reason to think that a shemlen god saved him, and it's possible for others to feel the same.

[Rekkampum]

Even Varric is Andrastian, so anything can be a surprise.

[Luckyanna]

To be honest, it seems hard not to have at least some level of hesitation.

I mean, what kind of douchebag would instantly go "Hells yeah, I'm the messiah!!"?

lol

 

 Well, Leliana was that way in DAO. Didn't turn out quite like she hoped it would

[Lady Luminous]

To be honest, it seems hard not to have at least some level of hesitation.

I mean, what kind of douchebag would instantly go "Hells yeah, I'm the messiah!!"?

lol

 

My Prince Aubrey. Most spoiled brat in all of Thedas. Took all the glory and killed everyone possible. 

[Augustei]

To be honest, it seems hard not to have at least some level of hesitation.

I mean, what kind of douchebag would instantly go "Hells yeah, I'm the messiah!!"?

lol

My PC lol, He never even believed he was Herald but guy saw what a huge oppotunity it was and so sold that **** straight away, "Hell yeah im the Messiah. My word is as Andrastes". People believe your their holy prophet, Tis awesome. The level of power and influence it would give you...

[Lucky Thirteen]

They just pat you on the head, say you're so humble, and keeps calling you herald of andraste anyways. I think I recall one person being relieved you didn't believe yourself the messiah, but they were a random NPC in redcliff.

 

You can play the whole game denying it and everyone just keeps patting you on the head. Even Varric has a hard time not seeing you as the messiah, which was just the most jarring thing for me. I think because Hawke had so much more of a human, down to earth, weak element to their story and character structure. I couldn't help imagining the Inquisitor being kind of jealous of Hawke being able to have Varric as a friend. Varric holds that wicked grace thing and tells the Inquisitor, I just wanted to see you be a normal person for once. God damn it Varric I've been telling you that. Over and over. 

 

When people say the Inquisitor is like fantasy Shepard, they are not kidding. By ME3 Shepard felt so alienated to me by all the god worshiping and wanking, it really felt like none of the characters really cared about Shepard.  All they wanted was to be friends with that name and that title. I was picturing Shepard's life being so miserable in the end, just trying to put up a facade so everyone one else can have the confidence to keep fighting. Exactly the same with the Inquisitor. DA:I gave me that same feeling of the character just miserably suffocating under the image everyone created for them.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

^ Ditto. I kept saying no, not the Herald. Everyone persists anyway. That's why I'd think the inquisitor would just quietly just disappear one day (after defeating Corypeheus) and leave a note behind, either electing someone to take over or tell the rest to elect one. That or just publicly announce stepping down from the Inquisition.

[Korva]

Eh, I disagree. You can't just expect people to switch off their faith and need for hope -- I actually respected them more for keeping those feelings quiet for the most time, in favor of trying to be friends first and foremost because they knew that we already carry so much. All the NPCs I liked (Cassandra, Cole, Dorian, Varric, Solas, Blackwall) felt like actual friends to me sooner or later ... the advisors seem more distant out of respect for rank and because of course they don't get to know us like the people who spend day and night on the road with us, but there was decent good rapport with them too. Overall I was very happy with the characters.

 

Aside from the usual issue of Bioware neglecting to let them inquire about our feelings and problems once in a while. But that is a usual issue with these games, so I'm holding it against the writers and not the characters.

[Precursor Meta]

It doesn't change the story. The most you'll get is a mention here and there. I choose to be called the Herald because Cassandra seemed to like it.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Eh, I disagree. You can't just expect people to switch off their faith and need for hope -- I actually respected them more for keeping those feelings quiet for the most time, in favor of trying to be friends first and foremost because they knew that we already carry so much. All the NPCs I liked (Cassandra, Cole, Dorian, Varric, Solas, Blackwall) felt like actual friends to me sooner or later ... the advisors seem more distant out of respect for rank and because of course they don't get to know us like the people who spend day and night on the road with us, but there was decent good rapport with them too. Overall I was very happy with the characters.

 

 

No, don't get me wrong. I think there were some wonderful personalities. They aren't explored too much and lack a lot of depth, but I was entertained by them to an extent. The problem is they don't see you as a person. They will never see you as a person. In the hands of the wrong person, a narcissistic jerk, this sort of thing leads to tyranny. Which the game does touch on. In the hands of the right person, it's just miserable existence because they can't be just a person. They are a good person forced into the shoes of a narcissistic jerk to keep everyone happy. It's not just some humble opinion on their part. It's just realistic. 

 

Ever play KOTOR2? It kind of really drives it home how terrible of a thing it is to have people just mindlessly follow you and how alienating it is to realize they are just magically influenced by you and may not truly care for you. They just don't realize it and  just follow whatever you say like puppets. A lot of Bioware fans really hate that game though. But I feel like they are the same people that love playing unstoppable gods with mindless worshipers that can be easily swayed by what you say and do.

 

At least with Inquisition, you can work to ****** everyone off and they leave. But again, you have to work to create conflict and differences between you and the companions. If you're playing a generally good person of a character, no one ever questions you and the whole story is cake walk to win them over.