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[thruaglassdarkly]

Great question.  Part of me wants to hold out a bit for DLC and the newness feeling to end before I try rate DA:I in the pantheon of Bioware games.  Its also fair to say I tend to like fantasy a little more than sci-fi, which influences my feelings here. Right now, I'd say a solid bronze:

 

1) DA: Origins

 

2) Mass Effect 3

 

3) DA: Inquisition 

 

I could see it jumping ME3 in my mind a few months from now. Nostalgia will probably keep it from ever jumping Origins, although I'm not sure that I feel that Origins is objectively a better game.

[Ananka]

I can't keep track of the BW games I've played. BG2 was Bioware, right? And KOTOR2 somebody different?

Also, I've only played SWTOR a little, not enough to rate it.

 

Something like this, though:

Spoiler

(BG2: SoA, ToB is way lower on the list)

DA:O

KOTOR

ME1

ME2

ME3

Nwn 1: HotU

DAI

BG1

JE

Nwn 2

Nwn 2: MotB

Nwn 1- and all other expansions except HoTU

DAO Awakening

DA2

 

I really like BG2, DAO, KOTOR, the whole ME:series, and NWN1:HotU. The other games are still very good. DAI is somewhere in the middle, it's not the best BW game I've played, but it's very enjoyable and I like it. I still consider even the games at the bottom of the list to be way better than most games.

[KotorEffect3]

hmm good question.

 

My list would be:

1. Mass Effect 3
2. Mass Effect 2
3. Mass Effect 1
4. Dragon Age Origins
5. Dragon Age Inquisition
6. Star Wars:Knights of the Old Republic
7. Dragon Age 2

I should point out that I am not sure where SWTOR would fit on that list,  I like the game and enjoy getting into it from time to time but I am not an MMO guy or a mouse and keyboard guy.   I don't know how it stacks up against other MMOs since that is the only one I play.  I should also point out that even though it is a bioware game I still can't really compare it to the other bioware games because they are all single player rpgs and that puts them into a different category than SWTOR.

 

I realized I allowed myself to stray off topic in my little spiel about SWTOR.  The reason why DAI is where it is at it is because I felt DAO has more overall variety in both story telling and in enemy types.    Not to mention I like being a Grey Warden.  It fits well with the any of the origins you play and I don't feel out of place playing a non human.  DAI is still very human-centric with part of the plot being centered around chantry reform.  So playing as a non human can be awkward.  With all that said DAI has improved combat mechanics as well as these large beautiful environments that are a joy to play in.  Also the ME series will always be my favorite so it is why the ME games are at the top.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 22 février 2015 - 01:48 .

[Cecilia L]

1) Mass Effect 3

2) Mass Effect 2

3) Dragon Age: Inquisition

4) Mass Effect 1

5) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

6) Dragon Age: Origins

7) Dragon Age II

8) Star Wars: The Old Republic

9) Neverwinter Nights

10) Jade Empire

 

So pretty good, I'd say

[Renessa]

This is like picking your favourite child....

 

1. KOTOR, because as my first Bioware game, it will always have a special place in my heart. Also I replayed it last year and still totally loved it. (Carth is the best Bioware romance ever...)

 

2. Mass Effect. For me,  the first ME had the best main story arch overall. Also the world building was absolutely brilliant.

 

3. DAI - loooove the setting. Such a joy to be able to roam about Thedas. When my first Inquisitor started exploring the Hinterland and I realized that Ferelden is no longer brown!!! The Emerald Graves make me want to buy a Villa there...The  companion characters, most of the main story, all are very well written. Critique would be the villain is weak and the ending too short.

 

4. Mass Effect 2 (very close to DAI). Overall story was weak, but again the companions and their stories kept me emotionally involved, And it had the best end mission of all Bioware games.

 

5. Dragon Age Origin - kill me, but I thought the overall story line - kill the Archdemon - a bit boring. But what really pushed it down the list for me were those endless levels you had to fight through, not just the Deep Roads, but the Mage Tower, the Fade, the Old Ruin in the Forest or the Temple at Haven (yeah, I chuckled, when it exploded in DAI!) Still, the Origin stories, the companions, the tragedy at Ostagar and the Landmeet were absolutely brilliant and Loghain was a very, very good villain.

 

6. Jade Empire - liked the story and the setting (Asian steam punk? What more could one ask for?) 

 

7. SWTOR - I liked playing some of the class stories as a single player game (Smuggler, Imperial Agent and Inquisitor have good story lines), but I was not too enthralled with the MMO aspects and I kept wishing they had made KOTOR 3....

 

8. DA2 - The premise was promising, I still admire Bioware's boldness to try something new: no shining hero, everyone is pretty damaged and in the end there is no happy outcome. But the implementation just did not do the theme justice and of course the claustrophobic setting did not help either. The ending also was bodged, but that seems to develop into a Bioware weakness...

 

9. Mass Effect 3 - Ah, what a wasted opportunity, Tuchanka was one of the best and most satisfying mission I ever played in a Bioware game. Everything came together, all the decision I made in the other two games had an impact and emotionally it was heart wrenching. But it was only one mission and the rest just did not live up to it. And then the ending - even the Extended Cut could not make up for that. Still, even that game I played through twice.

[Pinkcarnation09]

1) Dragon Age II

 

2) Dragon Age: Inquisition

 

3) Dragon Age: Origins/Awakening

 

4) Mass Effect 2

 

5) Mass Effect 3

 

Sadly I never played the original Mass Effect. I just sort of started at 2 and went from there...maybe some day. 

[Esperard]

Mass Effect 2

 

Kotor

 

Dragon Age Origins

 

Dragon Age Inquisition

 

Mass Effect 3

 

Mass Effect

[Monica83]

1. Baldur's gate 2

2.Baldur's gate

3.Planescape torment

4.Icewind dale

5.Icewind dale 2

6.Dragon age Origins

7.Mass effect

8.Mass effect 2

9.Mass effect 3

10.Dragon age inquisition

[PhroXenGold]

Hmmm...not really sure. Of the 11 BW games I've played (BG1+2, NWN, KotOR, JE, DAO,2,I, ME1-3), the top three and bottom two are pretty clear cut:

 

1 - BG2

2 - JE

3 - ME2

.

.

10 - ME3

11 - NWN

 

But the other six are pretty close. I'd probably put the Dragon Ages in the order they were released (so Origins > 2 > Inquisition), but the drop in quality over them is pretty small, and I like all of them (albeit for different reasons, so it's harder to make a direct comparison). But how they compare to KotOR, ME1, BG1...not really sure. Depends on what I'm in the mood for, and at times, what I've played most recently.

[fraggle]

Wow, uh, that's actually hard.

I think...

 

1. DA:O/Mass Effect 3

2. DA:I

3. DA2/Mass Effect 1

4. Mass Effect 2

 

Never played any old games.

[g40max]

ME 1

KOTOR

DA:O joint with DA:I so far

ME 2

ME 3

DA 2

[Aran Linvail]

1 - Baldur's Gate Series

 

2 - Dragon Age Origins

 

3 - Kotor / Mass Effect 2

 

4 - Mass Effect 1

 

5 - Dragon Age Inquisition

 

6 - Jade Empire

 

7 - Mass Effect 3

 

8 - Dragon Age 2

[Matt VT Schlo]

Of the six I've played: 

 

 

 

 

Mass effect 1

 

Dragons age I

 

Dragons age origins

 

Dragons age 2

 

Mass Effect 2 (great game in a lot of ways, just bad story pacing imo)

 

Mass Effect 3

[Silith]

Hmmm this is hard - I want to add that I have loved each and every Bioware game I have ever played, so even if NWN is on the bottom of the list I still like it a lot more than many other games I have played.

But let's see:

 

Mass Effect 3 (+DLC)

Dragon Age: Inquisition

Mass Effect / DA:O (it's a tie. I love 'em both to pieces but they start to show their age)

Mass Effect 2 (+DLC)

Baldur's Gate II + ToB

Dragon Age 2 (+DLC)

Baldur's Gate + SotSC

Neverwinter Nights (don't have a lot of memories of playing it so I can't have liked it as much as the other games I guess)

 

In general, I like the ME franchise a bit more than DA, most likely because of Jennifer Hale and the fact that Shepard is a more defined character (because ME does not give you much choice as to who your Shepard is, so I guess it's easier to write a tighter, more personal story). But it's just a slight edge it has over DA.

ME3 ranks at the top because even though I really don't like the ending (ohgodletsnotgothere), it's still the game that has had the most emotional impact on me in ... don't know, ever.

 

I still need to play: KotoR, KotoR II, Jade Empire.

 

ETA: Bioware did not create Planescape:T nor Icewind Dale - you're thinking of Black Isle there AFAIK.

ETA: Doh.

[PhroXenGold]

I still need to play: KotoR, KotoR II, Jade Empire.

 

ETA: Bioware did not create Planescape:T nor Icewind Dale - you're thinking of Black Isle there AFAIK.

 

Hehe...BW didn't create KotOR2 either

[Silith]

Hehe...BW didn't create KotOR2 either

 

Heh, doh, my bad! That was Obsidian (with Chris Avellone who also did Planescape:T and Icewind Dale, so maybe Bioware should hire him and then we can pretend all of those were Bioware's as well ). Guess that shows that I really haven't played it yet

[RinuCZ]

1. Mass Effect / Mass Effect 2 + LotSB - FemShep, settings, these characters, the epicness. The best stuff I have played in many years.
2. Jade Empire / Dragon Age Inquisition / Dragon Age 2 - Jade Empire was the first Bioware's game that resonated with me. DA2 has great main story. DA:I has great side characters, it looks epic and amount of women all around, in regular and powerful positions, was a dream I haven't recovered from yet.
3. Neverwinter Nights - It was strangely addictive. I remember avoiding the uni for a week and people even started asking what happened with me .
4. KOTOR - Well, it was interesting to play despite it belonging to Star Wars franchise.
5. Dragon Age: Origins -  I enjoyed only last 3 hours out of 120 hours. I admire the scope and appreciate it as something which gave a life to better sequels but it was too cliché and didn't have enough interesting dialogues. At least I tried to like it.
6. Mass Effect 3 - Combat improved a lot as other things and multiplayer was fun but what they did with the protagonist was just... Ugh, never again.

I played Baldur's Gates and Icewind Dales but they weren't interesting enough for me wanting to finish them, so I don't count them.

 

TL:DR DA:I ranks quite high among Bioware's games I have played.

[Hexoduen]

I consider Bioware games to be among the best PC games I've ever played. Inquisition started out really low at launch for me, but seeing it getting patched up and slowly getting better on PC, it's climbing my list

[DarkDragon777]

1. Dragon Age Origins

2. Inquisition

3. KOTOR

4. Mass Effect

5. Dragon Age 2

...........................

68. Mass Effect 2

69. Mass Effect 3

 

Also, if Inquisition adds some intense story related DLC to rival Origins' it may move up 

[DanteYoda]

I know its all subjective..

 

But i'm genuinely shocked at how many have Mass Effect 3 as the top spot, it just boggles my mind, i played it till the end of earth sequence then uninstalled, for me it was so bad, so linear, so limited, so many cut scenes.. i just couldn't go on..

 

And i absolutely loved Mass Effect 1 and a bit less so 2 (it was far more dumbed down).

 

I'm just

[Hexoduen]

I know its all subjective..

 

But i'm genuinely shocked at how many have Mass Effect 3 as the top spot, it just boggles my mind, i played it till the end of earth sequence then uninstalled, for me it was so bad, so linear, so limited, so many cut scenes.. i just couldn't go on..

 

And i absolutely loved Mass Effect 1 and a bit less so 2 (it was far more dumbed down).

 

I'm just

 

I'd give Mass Effect 3 with all its DLC's a solid 9/10. Enjoyed every playthrough   And yes I agree both ME2 and ME3 are dumbed down compared to the original Mass Effect, which is why the original still takes top spot for me

[fraggle]

I know its all subjective..

 

But i'm genuinely shocked at how many have Mass Effect 3 as the top spot, it just boggles my mind, i played it till the end of earth sequence then uninstalled, for me it was so bad, so linear, so limited, so many cut scenes.. i just couldn't go on..

 

And i absolutely loved Mass Effect 1 and a bit less so 2 (it was far more dumbed down).

 

I'm just

 

It's just a matter of taste really. I loved everything that happened in Priority: Earth.

In fact, in ME3 I was invested right from the start, it has some of the best character moments. I liked ME1 and ME2, but I even took a break before finishing ME2 (to play Inquisition).

Though, now that ME3 really got to me, I'm replaying the whole Trilogy, haha.

[PhroXenGold]

I know its all subjective..

 

But i'm genuinely shocked at how many have Mass Effect 3 as the top spot, it just boggles my mind, i played it till the end of earth sequence then uninstalled, for me it was so bad, so linear, so limited, so many cut scenes.. i just couldn't go on..

 

And i absolutely loved Mass Effect 1 and a bit less so 2 (it was far more dumbed down).

 

I'm just

 

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of it. It's not bad, but it could've been so much more. And after it's predeccessors, I was expecting so much more. The gameplay was good, but the story - even disregarding the ending, which I'm not even going to touch with a 50ft pole - was really poor by BW's standards. It wasn't just the linearity and cut scenes, it was the whole thing being a badly contrived McGuffin hunt. Which, not only had they already done in ME1, they did it a hell of a lot better there. There were some good scenes, but overall it just didn't work for me at all.

 

And this is coming form someone who thinks ME2 is one of BWs finest - for me  it got the balance between cinematic and playable just right (at least prior to the DLC), the characters were brilliant, the gameplay enjoyable and the core story, while maybe not BW's best, was a lot better than it's successor. Overall, in terms of providing entertainment - surely the point of a gme - ME2 was spot on. ME3 wasn't.

[PhroXenGold]

" so many cutscenes"
I guess you are the kind of player Bioware is now catering to
I mean all Bioware games before DA I had lots of cutscenes even if you talked to companions or other side characters
in DA I they went Skyrim which is a shame
 

 

Eh? There were, maybe, half a dozen cutscenes in each of BG 1 and 2....