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[Rannik]

Mass Effect

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Mass Effect 3

Star Wars: The Old Republic

Dragon Age: Origins

Jade Empire

Baldur's Gate 2
Baldur's Gate

Dragon Age 2

Mass Effect 2

Dragon Age: Inquisition

Neverwinter Nights

[dreamgazer]

I dunno, somewhere near the middle. The higher end of the middle. Or something.

[Regan_Cousland]

Mass Effect 2

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Mass Effect 1

Dragon Age: Origins

Jade Empire

Dragon Age 2
Mass Effect 3

Dragon Age: Inquisition

 

(... and the strange/sad thing is that Inquisition would have been right near the top if just a few little things had been done differently.)

 

P.S. Sorry for copying your formatting, Rubios. It was very nice. lol

[ebevan91]

Ugh this is so hard and I only have the ME and DA games to choose from (6 games)

 

ME2 is sitting comfortable at the top spot while DA2 is at the tail end of the pack in 6th place. I don't see those changing anytime soon unless ME4 either blows me away or is really, really bad (like Aliens: Colonial Marines level bad)

 

For right now... ME2 > ME3 > DA:I > DA:O > ME1 > DA2

 

When I played ME1 it was only like a year before ME3 came out so ME1 felt kinda outdated (I actually like ME1's story the most of the ME games) and as for DA2, well, it just wasn't that good. We all know why that game was hated so much. Origins to me just feels like an outdated DA:I but it does have good replay value.

[Bfler]

Dragon Age: Origins

Mass Effect 2

Mass Effect 1

Baldurs Gate 2

Dragon Age: Inquisition

Mass Effect 3

Neverwinter Nights 1

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Dragon Age 2

[Han Yolo]

Alrighty, I thought about this.

 

DA2 - purple Hawke + Varric is my dream team forever. Plus, no world saving, and very protagonist-centric. And I liked the time-span.

ME3 - the ending didn't bother me much, and the story had the right flow. Plus all the feels. And Citadel dlc.

DAI - love the story, but alas, all the grinding.. at least it isn't necessary to progress. Much.

SWTOR - love the Star Wars universe and enjoy playing the stories very much, but alas, all the grinding..

ME2 - well, enjoyable game.

ME1 - if I ignore the Mako grinding it's quite enjoyable  

DAO - too slow combat wise and I dislike silent protagonists

KOTOR - that and I'm a bit of a graphics ******.

NWN1 - ditto

[sim-ran]

Off topic side note: KOTOR and BG can be had on android and iPhone platforms now.

I did not know this. You are now my hero!!!

[99DP1982]

BG 1/2 (with expacs, superb story, writing, character creation&development and tactical combat, what's more to want?)

NWN (the MP toolset was amazing even though i disliked the SP until HotU, but all the amazing big high quality persistent worlds and extra mods made this game superb in MP, better than any MMO will ever be)

DA:O (I loved the concept of playable different Origins and some of the companions were really well made. I view this as a one game together with DA:A expac))

KOTOR (companions like HK-47 and Jolee elevate the game)

Mass Effect (Writing Wise)/Mass Effect 3 (Gameplay Wise)

Mass Effect 2 (even though it was just a filler in the series some missions made it worthy like Shadow Broker or the Final mission)

 

(gap)

 

DA:I (I liked a few concepts, like Wartable and execution of a Stronghold, but disliked the awful I mean AWFUL idea of MMO style resource gathering - why not to use just marking a few nodes similar to querries and lgo camps and the gating access to appropriate crafts based on the amount of various nodes; and sidequests - including the borefest of fights with dragons where if not for a few special moves I could just afk for 20min of some of the fights. Combat is also terrible on the PC with mouse and keyboard and pathfinding in the tactical few is horrible + I have no idea why they need to implement enemies with thousands of hit points... combat in games like BG is way more engaging and you do not work with such huge numbers, I also dislike the idea of skills power being connected to the gear DPS meter. That was also a huge issue for me in the newest DIablo from Blizzard)

 

(gap)

 

Jade Empire (just could not get into it)

 

(HUUUUGE GAP)

 

DA2 (few ideas were nice like persistentcy and development of character over a span of several years, but a lot were just a huge miss and the game felt more like a cheap money grab than a proper game)

 

Did not touch SW:TOR because the concept of MMO is just bad to me. The only MMO I tried was TES:O and it only reinforced my view on MMOs.

[PhroXenGold]

Heh, just noticed I forgot to put TOR on my list. Guess I subconsciously blocked my memories of that one out. Anyway, yeah, it's right at the bottom. The MMO elements get in the way of enjoying the sort-of-single-player stories, and the need to put in huge amounts of solo content for those stories ruined it as an MMO...

[Barry-Allen]

Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect
Dragon Age Inquisition
Mass Effect 3.

[thruaglassdarkly]

I know its all subjective..

 

But i'm genuinely shocked at how many have Mass Effect 3 as the top spot, it just boggles my mind, i played it till the end of earth sequence then uninstalled, for me it was so bad, so linear, so limited, so many cut scenes.. i just couldn't go on..

 

And i absolutely loved Mass Effect 1 and a bit less so 2 (it was far more dumbed down).

 

I'm just

 

Well, as you asked, I have a couple of reasons.  Mass Effect 3 with all the dressing is a very different experience than Mass Effect 3 the vanilla game, and I think a lot of us who like it take that into account when we rate the game.  The war theme adds a level urgency to the experience that I did not always feel in ME or ME2.  I'm not sure the game is as quite as linear as everyone claims.  There is certainly a lot of forward thrust, but more than half of the story content is optional.  For all the claims that decisions do not matter, several main plot points have dramatically different results for key characters depending on choices the player makes (Tuchanga, Ranoch, the Citadel attack, even Sanctuary to a some small extent).  Most of the before mentioned story content gives resolution to seeded ideas in Mass Effect 1 and 2 (ME3 is much better if you import a character from the previous 2 games.  That doesn't bother me.)  The cut scenes are frequent, but I came to Bioware from the Final Fantasy universe, so I'm not bothered by cut scenes.  I thought the character interactions and development were some of the best in series, and for me character is more important than the overarching plot of a video game.  While the extended cut does not fix every problem at game's end, it does take away a lot of the sting.  Finally, the combat was the best in the series.  It felt like the shooter/party rpg gameplay they were trying to create in games 1 and 2 finally reached its potential.  25-35 hours of awesome gameplay made it easy for me to swallow 5 minutes of WTF.

 

So, you're right, its a taste thing.  I really have no interest in trying to convince somebody that ME3 is a great game, just as I have no interest in convincing others that CoD is not a great game.  The industry is more than large enough to support all kinds of interests.  But hopefully that gives you some idea of what people enjoyed about the game.

[thruaglassdarkly]

 

DA2 - purple Hawke + Varric is my dream team forever. Plus, no world saving, and very protagonist-centric. And I liked the time-span.

ME3 - the ending didn't bother me much, and the story had the right flow. Plus all the feels. And Citadel dlc.

 

 

Yup, the feels. I'm admit I'm a romantic at heart, so yeah, I eat that stuff up.  Sue me. 

[FiveThreeTen]

My subjective rank:

 

1. Dragon Age Origins - Great story/companions and liked the gameplay.

 

2. Kotor 1 - 1st Bioware game ever.

 

3. BG II - I played it much later than Kotor1, really had fun with importing the previous protag.

 

4. BG - Same as above, great story and RP options, liked the combat mechanics

 

5. DA:I - A good game, would have liked it a bit more with more/better main quests

 

6. DA2 - Objectively a good game, and I realized I preferred DA2 cast of companions over the Inquisition one. NM runs were fun for me.

 

7. ME - Great game, good pacing of the story (despite the longish mako rides). Loved the atmosphere/scifi tone.

 

8. ME2 - Good game, but found the scenario ridiculous at the very begining (probably too spoilery) and at the very end (reaper baby, can't take you seriously). Idk, the serie became too cartoonish. BUT I have very good memories of my NM playthoughs gameplay wise.

 

9. ME3 - Good game, but I already wasn't invested in the story anymore even before the endings. Couldn't shake the cartoonish feeling even if sometimes they were some call back to the tone the first game had set.

 

Never played NWN games so can't say.

[HowlingSiren]

DAO

ME2

ME1

ME3

DAI

NWN

KOTOR

DA2

BG

[Ryriena]

Jade empire
Knights of the old republic
Dragon age Origins
Mass effect
Skyrim
Dragon dogma
Mass effect 2
Dragon age two
Dragon age:inquisition
Mass effect 3 is dead last.

[CronoDragoon]

Well, as you asked, I have a couple of reasons.  Mass Effect 3 with all the dressing is a very different experience than Mass Effect 3 the vanilla game, and I think a lot of us who like it take that into account when we rate the game.  The war theme adds a level urgency to the experience that I did not always feel in ME or ME2.  I'm not sure the game is as quite as linear as everyone claims.  There is certainly a lot of forward thrust, but more than half of the story content is optional.  For all the claims that decisions do not matter, several main plot points have dramatically different results for key characters depending on choices the player makes (Tuchanga, Ranoch, the Citadel attack, even Sanctuary to a some small extent).  Most of the before mentioned story content gives resolution to seeded ideas in Mass Effect 1 and 2 (ME3 is much better if you import a character from the previous 2 games.  That doesn't bother me.)  The cut scenes are frequent, but I came to Bioware from the Final Fantasy universe, so I'm not bothered by cut scenes.  I thought the character interactions and development were some of the best in series, and for me character is more important than the overarching plot of a video game.  While the extended cut does not fix every problem at game's end, it does take away a lot of the sting.  Finally, the combat was the best in the series.  It felt like the shooter/party rpg gameplay they were trying to create in games 1 and 2 finally reached its potential.  25-35 hours of awesome gameplay made it easy for me to swallow 5 minutes of WTF.

 

So, you're right, its a taste thing.  I really have no interest in trying to convince somebody that ME3 is a great game, just as I have no interest in convincing others that CoD is not a great game.  The industry is more than large enough to support all kinds of interests.  But hopefully that gives you some idea of what people enjoyed about the game.

 

Completely agreed. Mass Effect 3 + DLC is such a fantastic experience.

 

One of the unfortunate side effects of visiting this board for a few years is that it's actually made me dislike ME1 more than I should, due to how much hate ME3 gets and the constant compare/contrasts story-wise. Someday I'll go back to thinking ME1 is a great game, likely long after I've left this place.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

ME3

DA2

ME2

DAI

SWTOR

Jade Empire

Baldurs Gate 2

KOTOR

ME1

Baldurs Gate

DAO

[Bob Walker]

Jade empire
Knights of the old republic
Dragon age Origins
Mass effect
Skyrim
Dragon dogma
Mass effect 2
Dragon age two
Dragon age:inquisition
Mass effect 3 is dead last.

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[Bizantura]

Games I play for months / years actually done from A-Z.

Those are the Spellforce Saga and Bioware RPG's.  Much less Bethesda"s Elder scroll series or Obsidian RPG's those I manage total playthru once or twice.

Got quite a portofolio of RPG's on Steam I played for a couple of hours but simply did not captavate me story or gameplay wise.

 

As a PC player my list on origin mite be quite short due to not much RPG available, total hours of play is enormous compared to the steam list which is hilarious since it has more then 50 games in.  But steam is good for cheap various tryout sales.  Besides Bethesda's Elder Scroll series, Bioware RPG's and Nordic games Spellforce I don't buy fullprice games anymore.

[thruaglassdarkly]

Completely agreed. Mass Effect 3 + DLC is such a fantastic experience.

 

One of the unfortunate side effects of visiting this board for a few years is that it's actually made me dislike ME1 more than I should, due to how much hate ME3 gets and the constant compare/contrasts story-wise. Someday I'll go back to thinking ME1 is a great game, likely long after I've left this place.

 

Illegitmi non carborundum.  Mass Effect 1 is a great game.  They can both be great games.  They're just different kinds of experiences.  

[Aaleel]

Jade empire
Knights of the old republic
Dragon age Origins
Mass effect
Skyrim
Dragon dogma
Mass effect 2
Dragon age two
Dragon age:inquisition
Mass effect 3 is dead last.

 

Something on this list does not belong....one of my favorite games ever 

[Dinerenblanc]

I haven't played many of Bioware's games but I'll post a list anyway.

 

1. Mass Effect 2

2. Dragon Age Inquisition

3. Mass Effect 1

4. Mass Effect 3

[Lebanese Dude]

If you are talking about a complete story with great dialogue, DAI is almost there but it still needs to be completed before they start charging for DLCs. For example: I had the Emporium in a previous Bio game. 

 

Um the rights to a feature you bought in a previous game don't carry over to a new one. 

 

If that was the case, Civilization games would be in trouble