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Where does DA:I rank among Bioware games you played?


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so you abandoned the franchise because of the interrupts? has to be the lamest reason ever

I abandoned the franchise because of the developers' response to my concerns about the interrupts.  It was clear that they weren't making any effort to accommodate roleplaying, and in fact they were intentionally choosing designs which actively inhibited it.

 

They also removed my favourite part of ME (the Mako), and ruined the combat mechanics.  The only thing left they could have done to make the game worse would have been to remove the ability to aim while paused.


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I think both issues become irrelevant on subsequent playthroughs once you know where, when, and what each interrupt is and does.

I need that first playthrough to work.  This is also why paraphrases are bad.

 

I need the first playthrough to work, because that's my only chance to see an honest reaction to in-game content.  All subsequent playthroughs are tainted by foreknowledge, so I can only have honest reactions there by relating back to the first one.  If the first one is just a fact-finding mission, then I can't ever actually play the game with honest reactions to events, and thus the game is ruined.


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I need that first playthrough to work.  This is also why paraphrases are bad.
 
I need the first playthrough to work, because that's my only chance to see an honest reaction to in-game content.  All subsequent playthroughs are tainted by foreknowledge, so I can only have honest reactions there by relating back to the first one.  If the first one is just a fact-finding mission, then I can't ever actually play the game with honest reactions to events, and thus the game is ruined.


Not ruined for me, but the immersion is severed when one must reload after lengthy cut-scenes to seize the opportunity to try for another path. Much prefer the interactions of DAI, and allowing the cut-scenes to guide the story; not tell it.

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Mass Effect 2

Dragon Age Awakening

Dragon Age 2

Mass Effect 3

Dragon Age Inquisition

Dragon Age Origins

Planescape Torment (does it count?)

Mass Effect 1

Baldur's Gate 2

Baldur's Gate 1

you are one of the few that like me have appreciate DAA among all the Dragon age games,  awakening is fantastic even if is too short.


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I need that first playthrough to work.  This is also why paraphrases are bad.

 

I need the first playthrough to work, because that's my only chance to see an honest reaction to in-game content.  All subsequent playthroughs are tainted by foreknowledge, so I can only have honest reactions there by relating back to the first one.  If the first one is just a fact-finding mission, then I can't ever actually play the game with honest reactions to events, and thus the game is ruined.

 

While I wouldn't go so far as to say that this outcome renders a game unplayable for me, it is terrible design. 



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The most important roleplaying I do is in how I interpret what the NPCs do. When Cassandra says something to the Inquisitor, what conclusions does the Inquisitor draw in that moment? How does the Inquisitor feel?

Making these decisions in real time is effectively impossible if I'm not confident that I know what the PC's current state of mind is. And if there's any risk that the PC's behaviour will surprise me, I clearly don't know her state of mind.

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Hmm, the thread question is interesting.

1. Mass Effect 3 (yeah, I said it - original ending was turd but I really liked the extended cut high EMS/destroy ending, and the rest of the game was an emotional, narrative and biotic roller coaster)
2. Mass Effect 2
3. Dragon Age: Origins
4. Mass Effect 1
5. Knights Of The Old Republic
6. Dragon Age: Inquisition
7. Dragon Age: Awakening
8. Dragon Age 2
9. Neverwinter Nights

That list is a bit weird as it makes it sound like I didn't like DA:I as much as I actually did. It's just the 5 above it are in my top 20 games of all time :P
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BG2 - Jon Irenicus is the best realised villain in computer gaming (that I've played)
DAO - Got combat right. Plus first time exploring Thedas.
BG1 - Excellent mixture of story and exploration. Also the first 'Bioware-style' game.
ME1 - World-building and story are great. Best overall mechanics in ME trilogy.
DAI - HAs the BG1 mixture of story and exploration, but the UI is clunky (I must do a larger impressions post sometime)
ME3 - Rannoch and Tuchanka were excellent and Citadel is sublime. Crucible plotline, Kai effing Leng and ending bring it down.
KotOR - Came to it late so mechanics and graphics were a bit clunky and I'd already been spoiled on the reveal. Story quality uneven.
NWN - OC a slog, no real companion intereaction. Some fan-designed stuff was good, but NWN2 did everything better.
ME2 - Good for companions, poor story and the weakest mechanics of ME
DA2 - Massive disappointment. Combat is a major step-down from DAO, story is very poor (not the 'personal' one we were promised), companions are un-likable (Varric excepted)

However I've fully replayed everything except DA2 and NWN OC. DA2 I couldn't finish once, I tried again last year but again couldn't finish.



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Mass Effect trilogy

Neverwinter Nights

(here should go NWN2 + Mask of the Betrayer but it's not BioWare)

Dragon Age games



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Unfortunately DAI gave me the same problem as Kotor: controls prevent me from having fun playing, so both games sit together at the bottom of the list. The difference is Kotor is very dated and I bought it too late, while DAI is new.

Having played DAI and SWTOR recently, I find myself having a lot more fun with the latter, even with the current lag problem.

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DAI is so low in my list, I just wont write it.



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I've only played ME and DA series, so my list would be something like this:

 

1. Dragon Age: Origins

2. Mass Effect 2

3. Mass Effect 1

4. Dragon Age: Inquisition

5. Mass Effect 3

6. Dragon Age 2


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Even though I participated earlier, isn't it a little early to rank DAI against games that are already finished?

Not to mention the fact that mods are being taken into account which sometimes take months to develop.

 

DAI presumably still has patches and DLC.


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So many games. I actually enjoyed all games except last two on the list. 

 

1. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

2. Dragon Age: Origins

3. Mass Effect

4. Jade Empire

5. Neverwinter Nights

6. Dragon Age Inquisition

7. Mass Effect 2

8. Star Wars: The Old Republic

9. Mass Effect 3
10.Dragon Age II



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ME2

ME3

DAI

 

 

If it had guns, then DAI would be at number 2  :D



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I'm ranking the games basing my judgement on how much I liked them during my first playthroug. If I were to replay all those games right now the ranking would be much different: for example I would hate pretty much all baldur's gate interface and that would make it drop a lot in the chart.

 

Main Games

1- Baldur's Gate II

2- Dragon Age Origins

3- Baldur's Gate I

4- Dragon Age II (Crappy characters, crappy setting and crappy level design, but best combat system in the franchise so far)

5- Gragon age Inquisition (I see the effort developers put in this one, but I sincerely can't enjoy it... too much grind)

 

Expansions and DLCs

1- Legacy (best boss fight of any Bioware game I ever played, great main villain with even a better voice actor than the one in Inquistion)

2- Awakening (hits the second spot for the sheer amount of content)

3- Throne of Bhaal (great conclusion to a great saga)

4- Tales of the sword coast (good amount of content)

5- With Hunt (Moneygrab ****, but I'm a fan of Morrigan, what could I do? I loved it).

5- Stone Prisoner (I loved shale, and this is good value for a DLC)

6- Warden's Keep (Enjoyed the story, but the keep was disappointing... I wanted something like Skyhold)

7- The exiled prince (didn't like this one, Sebastian is the worst companion among a roster that is already bad by itself)

8- Return to Ostagar (This one was my personal nail in the coffin on DAO DLCs until Witch Hunt was released... too much to pay for 2 hours of meaningless content)

9- Mark of the assassin (hated this one... I still wonder why I bought this Felicia Day commercial)

 

Didn't play the others.



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1.  Dragon Age Inquisition - probably my favorite game in the last two generations of consoles.

2.  Mass Effect 2 - absolutley loved the game and the characters.  Played it three times.  

3.  Mass Effect 3 - As good as 2 in many ways of course, but the ending knocks it down a few pegs.  

4.  Dragon Age 2 - Very fun, much better battle system and graphics then DA;O.  Linear nature and map reuse was unfotunate.

5.  Dragon Age Origins - a good start to the series, but the battle system was clunky and the whole game just felt too small.



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Hmm way to hard to really put in any order as I have greatly enjoyed every Bioware game that I have played. Story is what I play for, graphics help greatly and most of the one's I played

 

DA:O - heavily modded

DA:I - Yet to finish but love everything so far.

ME1 - modded with complete hi rez textures

SWTOR - still have to finish 3 class stories.

ME3 - heavy modded with hi rez textures

ME2 - some hi rez textures used

DA2 - modded, only ever finished once and actually not sure why. I enjoyed the story in this game.

KOTOR - been so long since I played. Need to load it back up.

Shattered Steel - Didn't see this one coming did ya :P

 

Never played Baldur's Gate, Never Winter, Jade Empire.



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1. Baldur's Gate 2 + Throne of Bhaal

2. Mass Effect 3

3. Dragon Age: Origins

4: Mass Effect 2

5. Dragon Age Inquisition

6. Baldur's Gate

7. Dragon Age 2

8. Mass Effect 1

9. Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal

10. Jade Empire 

11, Dragon Age: Awakening

12. Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast

13. Neverwinter Nights



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Probably just under Dragon Age Origins, right above Mass Effect 3.  



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NOTE:  I can't say I've ever played a BAD Bioware game.  I've enjoyed every experience to some extent. 

My list:

 

Mass Effect 2

Dragon Age Origins

Mass Effect 3

Knights of the Old Republic
Dragon Age 2
Mass Effect

Jade Empire

Dragon Age Inquisition

Other notes:  I WATCHED the Baldur's Gate series and Neverwinter Nights.  My cousin used my computer to play some of these, because his PC was pretty crappy at the time.  He was my gateway to Bioware.  Also, I'm not going to count Awakenings, although it had a lot of great ideas and was fun to play a couple times.  I also wanted to include KOTOR 2, because it's basically Bioware's engine, but I do acknowledge that Obsidian were the brains behind the game.  That game, though, as buggy as it is, might take the top spot.  That game is  intellectually brilliant.  It's like a little class in moral philosophy.  Ah, the wonders of Kreia...I MISS that style of RPG.  Where conversations had depth and the lore of Star Wars suddenly became nuanced in ways George Lucas never could have imagined.  What other game could you sit and have a 30-45 minute conversation with an murderous Android about the joys of assassination?

And I'd pay real money (Kickstarter?) to erase the bland MMO SW: TOR and have someone actually make KOTOR 3. But I'm not holding my breath.


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I'm torn on this subject.

 

In some ways I love Inquisition and think it's better than both Origins and DA2, and in other ways I hate Inquisition and think it's the biggest disappointment I've had in gaming in several years....  :wacko:  Trying to hold my breath while waiting for pc patches, then maybe I can make a more sound judgement ;)



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1. Mass Effect 2

2. Mass Effect 3

3. Dragon Age: Origins

4. Mass Effect

5. Dragon Age II

6. Dragon Age: Inquisition



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If you were stood on top of the list looking down, you'd need Hubble to see Inquisition.

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I'm torn on this subject.
 
In some ways I love Inquisition and think it's better than both Origins and DA2, and in other ways I hate Inquisition and think it's the biggest disappointment I've had in gaming in several years....  :wacko:  Trying to hold my breath while waiting for pc patches, then maybe I can make a more sound judgement ;)


Based on the few posts that I have seen, it would appear that frustration over KB&M seems to be of primary concern. My recommendation is to go to Options, and select and then re-map all of the desired functions. While the Mouse cannot be re-bound, one may steer by keeping the button depressed, and Auto-fire by using the other in the same fashion.

I use a WASD config, but the Arrow keys may be more helpful for others, if available.