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[mutantspicy]

Generally when you buy a soundtrack, and it is a legally defined term, you receive the songs that are played within that media. Usually they are popular artists in AAA games like these, but Bioware brilliantly had someone write original material for their game.  Nontheless this is the soundtrack.  I'm talking about the bard songs, instrumental, french and english versions. That is what the soundtrack for this game is.

 

What we received instead was the score, another legally defined term.  The background music, music which sets the stage.

 

Now being a musician myself, I know we are drama queens and sometimes you just can't come to terms. Things happen.  Given that the songs were written specifically for the game, and share melodies with the score, I can see how complications in writing credits and blah blah blah could happen.

 

However, I still can't get over that I bought a soundtrack but received a score.  Not pleased.

[SkyKing]

Yup, bioware is laughing all the way to the bank on that one as well as showing all those demos and conventions with crestwood zone w/ complex invasions, using keeps and all these things that were never in the game but they showed them to get preorders.  If you start a lawsuit count me in! 

[SpiritMuse]

I was somewhat disappointed as well. There are a few good pieces on it, but I really wish the amazing battle music from the latter part of the Haven battle, for example, had been on there instead of dozens of short incidentals.

[SkyKing]

Well I'm glad I didn't buy the soundtrack.  I'm sure pirate copies of the bard and tavern songs are somewhere.  And for next game since bioware has no problem stealing and cheating people, don't feel guilty getting a pirate soundtrack.  I've never been one to condone that stuff but in this case they deserve it. 

[mutantspicy]

ugg the bank.  

 

Sadly I'm still left with...

What about the artists involved? I would like to know who they are, how they went about it, and what else they've done.  Now sure I can go digging and find out.  But aren't they allowed some tiny bit of promotion here.  

[mutantspicy]

Well I'm glad I didn't buy the soundtrack.  I'm sure pirate copies of the bard and tavern songs are somewhere.  And for next game since bioware has no problem stealing and cheating people, don't feel guilty getting a pirate soundtrack.  I've never been one to condone that stuff but in this case they deserve it. 

As a musician who has to fight for every dollar, I can't even fathom taking money from a fellow artist.

[squidney2k1]

This topic is racist

[CronoDragoon]

ugg the bank.  

 

Sadly I'm still left with...

What about the artists involved? I would like to know who they are, how they went about it, and what else they've done.  Now sure I can go digging and find out.  But aren't they allowed some tiny bit of promotion here.  

 

Elizaveta

 

 

She's smartly posted in the YT tavern vids to let people know.

[SkyKing]

As a musician who has to fight for every dollar, I can't even fathom taking money from a fellow artist.

 

What artist? Bioware didn't put the tavern songs, or the soundtrack in the soundtrack, so they are taking the money from those artists.  People paying for the soundtrack for THEIR work and bioware keeps it ALL because they advertise it as the soundtrack and only put in their stupid elevator music to keep all the money for themselves.  

[Chenoah]

Definitely got ripped off on that one, yes.

[mutantspicy]

Elizaveta

 

 

She's smartly posted in the YT tavern vids to let people know.

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!

[mutantspicy]

This topic is racist

Nah!  Classist perhaps!

[drummerchick]

This topic is racist

 

 

Nah!  Classist perhaps!

Unintentionally racist.

http://www.urbandict...php?term=gypped

[mesmerizedish]

"legally defined term"

 

yeah okay

 

you may be a musician, but you're clearly not a lawyer

[Kantr]

You were hardly ripped off.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

This topic is racist

 

Nah!  Classist perhaps!

 

What they were referring to is the etymology of the word "gyp" as a reference to purchasing something, only to discover that what you received was valueless, or of considerably less value than you expected.

 

It is a short form of the word "Gypsy," and is based on the stereotype that Gypsies ("Travelers") are untrustworthy.

 

Most people don't know the word's origins, so it isn't inherently racist of them to use the term, but there has been a movement to discourage its use because of the original racist connotations. I'm not attempting to make an issue out of it, merely explaining what the quote above was referring to.

 

I will mention that "Soundtrack" does not mean what you say it does in the OP. The original definition of "soundtrack," as applied to films, refers to all of the sound, including score, dialogue and ambient. It later came to be used by record companies as a term to sell the tracks licensed to a film on a single album, which is what you are referring to. That's not a "legal" definition, however, it is a colloquialism.

 

Since the record companies' use of the term has come to be the commonly-accepted meaning when selling a movie's soundtrack, it is a bit odd that they would fail to include the games' songs on it, but you would have a very hard time making a legal argument that they misused the term.

[Frenrihr]

Wow then i was soo stupid to believe it contained all the ost, this is BS never preordering and never buying "deluxe" or anything similar again, this is ridiculous.

[Elsariel]

Is it not possible that the people in charge for compiling the soundtrack did not anticipate how popular the bard songs would be? I mean, they might just be pleasantly surprised at how much they are liked and might be planning to release them in a free DLC. I feel like assuming they purposely excluded it just to ****** us off is a bit too cynical.

[Frenrihr]

Is it not possible that the people in charge for compiling the soundtrack did not anticipate how popular the bard songs would be? I mean, they might just be pleasantly surprised at how much they are liked and might be planning to release them in a free DLC. I feel like assuming they purposely excluded it just to ****** us off is a bit too cynical.

[Geth Supremacy]

I think they put more focus/attention on Mass Effect honestly.  And I think they set the bar much higher than they are prepared to meet for other games.

[mutantspicy]

Unintentionally racist.

http://www.urbandict...php?term=gypped

Did not know that.  You learn something new everyday

[mutantspicy]

Is it not possible that the people in charge for compiling the soundtrack did not anticipate how popular the bard songs would be? I mean, they might just be pleasantly surprised at how much they are liked and might be planning to release them in a free DLC. I feel like assuming they purposely excluded it just to ****** us off is a bit too cynical.

I don't think they did it to P*** us off.  I doubt it was because they didn't think the songs would be popular,  If I were a betting man, I'd say hey had some conflicts with the musicians involved, Song writing credits, royalties, etc.  But then its still marketed as soundtrack, that's the part that makes me feel ripped off.

[JWvonGoethe]

You didn't get the score - a score is musical notation printed on paper (or in digital format). You received the incidental music.

[mutantspicy]

While its true that a score is written notation.  Its also true that a score is music specifically written for the movie or in this case game.  

So actually I was a bit wrong, because the Bard songs were written specifically for this game.  Technically they are also part of the score.

[JWvonGoethe]

While its true that a score is written notation.  Its also true that a score is music specifically written for the movie or in this case game.  

So actually I was a bit wrong, because the Bard songs were written specifically for this game.  Technically they are also part of the score.

 

Yes, sometimes people will watch a film and say they really like the score, despite never actually having seen the score. This is a more informal sense of the word "score", where it is used as a synonym of the word "music". Technically this is an example of metonymy (calling one thing by the name of something else that happens to be related to it). Since you were claiming the word "score" is a legally defined term I was using the more literal definition of the word. Sorry for the English lesson; I just find this type of thing interesting.