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[JasonPogo]

So I like this game. I really do. But game if the year? This must have been a real crap year for games. DAI is a good game. But not a game of the year kind of game. At least not for me.

[d-boy15]

Consider that most big titles released last year were either flop or average. I'm not surprise DAI is winning.

[Mecha Elf]

DAI is the best out of really poopy ones. Idk i really like the game but i dont personally think it deserved so many GOTY awards considering its downfalls in many traditional areas that makes a bioware game a bioware game. I guess people really like lackluster main stories but open and adventuring areas. :///

[Rawgrim]

EA pays for reviews and whatever else. That is why it wins so many awards.

[Ogillardetta]

 General opinion outside of here is good. 

[thebigbad1013]

Honestly I'm glad they are getting Game of the Year awards. I enjoyed the game and I love the Dragon Age franchise so to me it is a very good thing.

[Virgulec]

Yeah, I'm also not sure about the criteria for judging the game of the year, so I'm miffed on this too. I really love the game(despite some holes here and there), but I can't really say it's a game of the year. But thinking about it now, we did get a Diana Allers as a NPC in ME3 and she had absolutely nada to do with ME(in-game) on the whole. Should have been Emily Wong or even Kalesah, but hey.

[Ieldra]

Really, people here need to get out of the mindset that anything that's not perfect is undeserving of awards. DAI is a very good game, and as any game, great or not, that was ever made it has flaws and design decisions not liked by everyone, and those are particularly noticeable and noticed by those who have strong preferences in the affected areas.

 

I think DAI's main flaw is that it feels incomplete in three different ways: (1) there is an odd silence in the narrative after "Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts" and "Here Lies the Abyss" and you don't feel you're close to the end, (2) It lacks a city hub, and (3) many side quests feel like cookies cut from the template "collect X of Y" and there wasn't enough done to make them feel alive.

 

I still think DAI is great because of the things it did exceptionally well, and it deserved the GOTY awards. 

[Virgulec]

 

Really, people here need to get out of the mindset that anything that's not perfect is undeserving of awards.

An opinion is another person's perspective. Whether you agree or not... that mindset also needs to be checked. Whether it deserved the award or not, that is an opinion too. I have played other great games in 2014, that does not mean they are or aren't deserving of the title too. Then again, that's my opinion. I am totally enjoying DAI doesn't mean I think it's a game of the year.

[Vilegrim]

Really, people here need to get out of the mindset that anything that's not perfect is undeserving of awards. DAI is a very good game, and as any game, great or not, that was ever made it has flaws and design decisions not liked by everyone, and those are particularly noticeable and noticed by those who have strong preferences in the affected areas.

 

I think DAI's main flaw is that it feels incomplete in three different ways: (1) there is an odd silence in the narrative after "Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts" and "Here Lies the Abyss" and you don't feel you're close to the end, (2) It lacks a city hub, and (3) many side quests feel like cookies cut from the template "collect X of Y" and there wasn't enough done to make them feel alive.

 

I still think DAI is great because of the things it did exceptionally well, and it deserved the GOTY awards. 

 

 

with the competiton in the RPG market I would say not, Divinity Original Sin, Dragonfall:Directors Cut, Wasteland 2, Age of Decadence (and more I probably missed) all out this year, I would have expected some difference of opinion, but nope the big studio game has to win apparently.

[Silcron]

I think the problem is that GOTY's seems to only be given to triple A games. Or at least from very big companies (EA, Ubisoft....). I like DAI, but tbh as time goes I think I may like DA2 more, the opinion is still forming (and that's keeping in the DA franchise, I'd like to point out that SWToR does most of what DAI does and better, exclude things like the combat, since they have different mechanics there).

GOTY this year? Dark Souls 2, Bayonetta 2, Shovel Knight, Hearthstone. I think any of those is more deserving. At least they feel complete, they may have cut content, but at least it's not as obvious as Skyhold Upgrades.

And I feel sorry for DA:I, I really liked the concept for this game, I got really excited, and while I think it was worth buying it, well, I will eventually finish my second playthrough but that's it. I feel like it was ok, just another good game, nothing that blew my mind (except the lore bits with Flemeth and the Elves, those were interesting.) I enjoyed it because I'm a fan of the series, but nothing that special. It's like the average episode of a series, you enjoy it because you enjoy the series, but you're not going to walk around praising it.

[DaemionMoadrin]

DA:I does deserve some awards. It is a good game after all. It isn't good enough to deserve the hype and the metric fuckton of awards it is getting though. I think most of us are miffed because we expected better from BioWare and the game that disappointed and frustrated us is getting lauded as the best thing ever.

[NauRava]

I agree with the OP, I love my DA:I with all it's flaws, it's an awesome and fun game but hardly the best game that has come out this year.  

 

Sadly most of the big GOTY awards are for the big AAA titles only and usually ignore small/indie developed games like Shovel Knight or Transistor, no mater how good they are. And this year was a really bad year with big titles or at least very disappointing (*cough*Destiny*cough*WatchDogs*cough*AC:Unity*cough*Thief*cough*). 

 

Personally I think DA:I and Shadow of Mordor were the only big games worth to buy this year, maybe Last of Us: Remake if one hasn't play it yet on PS3 but non of these is mindblowing. Yup, this was a bad year for the big games.

[Ieldra]

with the competiton in the RPG market I would say not, Divinity Original Sin, Dragonfall:Directors Cut, Wasteland 2, Age of Decadence (and more I probably missed) all out this year, I would have expected some difference of opinion, but nope the big studio game has to win apparently.

I haven't played any other of those except Wasteland 2, and found that to be unsatisfying in storytelling and unexpectedly same-y in gameplay. Original Sin looks like the kind of game where I spend way too much time in combat. No compelling arguments for those IMO, but I don't know about the other two.

[Melyanna]

So I like this game. I really do. But game if the year? This must have been a real crap year for games. DAI is a good game. But not a game of the year kind of game. At least not for me.

 

I do think that DA:I deserves to be GOTY, however, even if I didn't, or just as an excercise, I can't think of a single other game that would consider a good candidate right now.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I do think that DA:I deserves to be GOTY, however, even if I didn't, or just as an excercise, I can't think of a single other game that would consider a good candidate right now.

 

I think that's a problem of the industry then. If no game is good enough, then there shouldn't be a GOTY that year.

[littlebrightpanda]

Isn't Hearthstone winning stuff as well? I remember GameTrailers had that as their GOTY. 

 

And I think they more often than not award DAI because of it's scope and ambition, something an indie-game would have difficulties to achieve. At least more niche games get nominated, putting them in the mind of more people, which might make it easier for them to get GOTY in the future. 

[keyip]

with the competiton in the RPG market I would say not, Divinity Original Sin, Dragonfall:Directors Cut, Wasteland 2, Age of Decadence (and more I probably missed) all out this year, I would have expected some difference of opinion, but nope the big studio game has to win apparently.

 

Unfortunately all of those games have their own problems. And I'm saying that as fan of all of them (except for Age of Decadence.)

 

GOTY this year? Dark Souls 2, Bayonetta 2, Shovel Knight, Hearthstone. I think any of those is more deserving. At least they feel complete, they may have cut content, but at least it's not as obvious as Skyhold Upgrades.

 

Haven't played Bayonetta 2 or Shovel Knight, but Hearthstone is merely a dumbed down Magic the Gathering, and Dark Souls 2 was inferior to Dark Souls 1. They changed the director I think and they had problems with level building, lore, and some other stuff.

[NauRava]

It could also be that the year 2013 was pretty decent with big titles like Bioshock:I, Last of Us, Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, (to my surprise) AC:Black Flag and Metro: Last Light for example, so this year looks like a extra bad one in comparison.

And I'm not saying DA:I didn't deserve any awards, hell it is in my top 5 games 2014! Just that it isn't THE BEST game of this year.

[Silcron]

I think that's a problem of the industry then. If no game is good enough, then there shouldn't be a GOTY that year.

Oh but how could we go one year without a GOTY. The horror! The crashing of events! Imagine the sites without the traffic of people checking which they chose for GOTY. Ah, the idea. It's too much. Too, much! D:

In all seriousness, it's kind of a moot point. "This is what we have decided is the best game to come out this year. Which with how this year has been it's not saying much. But hey, this one is less bad than the rest, so technically, it is the best."

[Tsunami Chef]

Idk, DA:i would probably have been my game of the year for multiple years if it came out. It is by far my favorite game of the last 3 years or so, maybe even 5....so yes.

 

Opinion is opinion.

 

I also love how we...as forum goers...objectively know which game is good enough to be game of the year. If the reveiwers agree with what we say, than they are right and doing honest reviews, but if they disagree they are paid off or stupid.

 

How many people don't see a flaw in this logic astonishes me.

 

The idea that you guys are frustrated that a game you dislike got awards because many other people loved it...the sadness in that...is immense.

[Silcron]

 Haven't played Bayonetta 2 or Shovel Knight, but Hearthstone is merely a dumbed down Magic the Gathering, and Dark Souls 2 was inferior to Dark Souls 1. They changed the director I think and they had problems with level building, lore, and some other stuff.

I know, but the GOTY is still framed as the best game to come out in a specific year. DS2 may not be as good as DS1, but DS1 didn't come out in 2014. Hearthstone may be that, but that doesn't stop it from being more accesible, a lot cheaper (you don't even need to spend real money on packs or the Naxrammas bit, just play and you'll get gold anyway to buy everything. I'll admit the Naxrammas part is a bit hidden, but if instead of going to the shop you go to it's section you can buy each wing for 700 gold each, which is about a week's worth of completing quests.) and a hell of a lot of fun on its own right.

What I'm saying is that as videogames that came out this year, I think those are better and more deserving of the GOTY than DAI just from the top of my head. I haven't played every single game that has come out this year, my opinion is the same as other people here. DAI is good, is in my top 10 this year, but there are simply other games that rank higher on the list, hence the examples.

[Silcron]

@Tsunami Chef

Well games media hasn't exactly proved recently to be trustworthy, but the thing is that they get to set GOTY's because it is their job but in the end it's just an opinion. As long as you don't go to the extremes you mentioned and can back up your opinion with arguments I think your opinion is valid, even if it disagrees with the profesionals.

As for your last paragraph. I don't see that. I see people talking about how they think that while DAI was good, they don't think it was good enough to be the GOTY, and talking in the forum about it. No frustation really.

[Virgulec]

Now, now, you're generalising all posters in this thread, and the sadness in that is immense. I didn't get the feeling of frustration from what I read, disappointment yeah, but no real frustration. If something is hyped and the outcome does not match the hype it received then that is bad, no matter how you look at it. Every player has his/her own criteria for a game that should be titled "Game of The Year". SWTOR was hyped to be a new and different MMORPG as the others, but the outcome left many disappointed and frustrated. The atmosphere I get in this thread is "I'm enjoying it, a lot, but".

[NauRava]

Now, now, you're generalising all posters in this thread, and the sadness in that is immense. I didn't get the feeling of frustration from what I read, disappointment yeah, but no real frustration. If something is hyped and the outcome does not match the hype it received then that is bad, no matter how you look at it. Every player has his/her own criteria for a game that should be titled "Game of The Year". SWTOR was hyped to be a new and different MMORPG as the others, but the outcome left many disappointed and frustrated. The atmosphere I get in this thread is "I'm enjoying it, a lot, but".

Yes, this thank you!

The fact that I love a game doesn't mean I'm blind to it's flaws or I won't give it any critic. And critic isn't always a negative thing, how can one fix flaws if someone doesn't point them out first?