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[Bfler]

DA2 won very few awards compared to Inquisiton. LOL

Which awards went to DA 2? The Golden Raspberry Award for RPGs?

[Riddam]

Nah, the general internet is pretty positive towards Inquisition. The Codex (which are critical towards all games) and Watch (who like to analyse all games to death) aside, it's much more positive than the reception it got here. Reddit's a pretty useful barometer, and even they are happy with Inquisition.

Well, there have been quite a few games this year that both of those sites have been pleased with nonetheless. The list of gaming sites I (somewhat) regularly browse is; Eurogamer, PCGamer, Kotaku and the afore mentioned RPGCodex/Watch. And the reception has been mixed within all of them. Kotaku/Eurogamer ranging on the more negative side and PCGamer on the more positive and of course the other 2 I already noted. I don't use Reddit so it's hard for me to tell of the reception there, but this is my experience with it. So take it as you will. 

 

I'd like to also mention that the metacritic user score for this game is quite low, but I also realize that it's no longer very accurate because of all the hate/fanboy bandwagoning that happens there these days. Still, the original Dragon Age maintains a high user score.

[Lewie]

It's almost like I have an opinion. It's one thing when a video game tries to just do a cheesy B-movie script. This is Bioware's bread and butter. They're not good stories in a critical sense, but they're fun for what they are and they've got interesting character writing.

But if a game is going to pretend that it's actually stepped into the world of critically acclaimed features, then it gets judged by that standard. And while it's not the pretentious and incoherent mess of BioShock Infinite, The Last of Us is an underwhelming and unimpressive collection of mundane clichés designed to elicit an emotional reaction.

Excuse me what? The Last of Us is one of the best games made in the past few years.

 

People really need to learn to give credit where it is due instead of using other games in point scoring.

 

I had no emotional response in da2 I just went buck daft and spammed the auto key. 

[In Exile]

Excuse me what? The Last of Us is one of the best games made in the past few years.

People really need to learn to give credit where it is due instead of using other games in point scoring.

I had no emotional response in da2 I just went buck daft and spammed the auto key.

I'm not into the gameplay but that part's subjective. But the storyline? It's just not that good. If you want to judge it by the standards of actual storytelling in film which people seem to do. If you want to judge it in comparison to videogame stories? I still think it's self-indulgent and a hodgepodge of clichés meant to elicit an emotional reaction.

DA2s story - if we can even call it that - is pretty terrible too. But I don't see what that had to do with anything.

[Teddie Sage]

It's my game of the year 2014 so far. Can't say for 2015 though.

[Lewie]

I'm not into the gameplay but that part's subjective. But the storyline? It's just not that good. If you want to judge it by the standards of actual storytelling in film which people seem to do. If you want to judge it in comparison to videogame stories? I still think it's self-indulgent and a hodgepodge of clichés meant to elicit an emotional reaction.

DA2s story - if we can even call it that - is pretty terrible too. But I don't see what that had to do with anything.

Why dismiss the gameplay considering it is one of its best qualities. 

 

Ok then the story too is bad?

 

So I must compare it to a film now and find cliches and feel bad if I have an emotional reaction.

 

Oh I see, you have already paved out my thoughts, thanks.

 

People really need to learn to give credit where it is due instead of using other games in point scoring.

[FreshRevenge]

Why do people need to make excuse like,

 

EA must of payed reviewers to give Dragon Age Inquisition good reviews?

 

Dragon Age Inquisition is a excellent game and it does so many things right. But people remain to be pessimistic. If any of you actually participated in making the game, wouldn't you be happy that you got so many awards.

 

Don't be such a Debbie Downer. Negativity is like cancer, nobody wants it.

[FaWa]

Its more likely that EA bribed all the other gaming companies to not make goty quality games, because thats what happened. This year was not very competitive. That being said, DAI was great and imo deserves it wins.

[guntar74]

Meh,if it means the game will get more buys or looks from more people its fine by me. After all more money it makes never hurts in getting more content, or a better game next time.

[In Exile]

Why dismiss the gameplay considering it is one of its best qualities.

Ok then the story too is bad?

So I must compare it to a film now and find cliches and feel bad if I have an emotional reaction.

Oh I see, you have already paved out my thoughts, thanks.

People really need to learn to give credit where it is due instead of using other games in point scoring.

I don't like survival-horror-like mechanics, and while it's wrong to say that TLoU was survival horror it combined a lot of mechanisms that were common in that genre along with stealth-oriented gameplay.

That's why I said the gameplay was subjective - I'm not a fan of the genre; it's not the fault of the game at all I didn't reallt enjoy that part of it.

Whether you like the story is subjective. Whether it resonated with you is subjective.

If you want to say it's a good story or some sort of masterpiece is a lot less subjective. If you want to say it had well written characters, etc., that's not really the same as "I liked it".

[Lewie]

I don't like survival-horror-like mechanics, and while it's wrong to say that TLoU was survival horror it combined a lot of mechanisms that were common in that genre along with stealth-oriented gameplay.

That's why I said the gameplay was subjective - I'm not a fan of the genre; it's not the fault of the game at all I didn't reallt enjoy that part of it.

Whether you like the story is subjective. Whether it resonated with you is subjective.

If you want to say it's a good story or some sort of masterpiece is a lot less subjective. If you want to say it had well written characters, etc., that's not really the same as "I liked it".

Good. Anyone who likes DAI also has a subjective point of view.

 

Unless everyone plays the same style as everyone else or the same genre right?

 

I do think it has a good story, I actually felt like I was trying to survive, every step of the way. As you say though each to their own eh? 

 

I won't go into detail about much in here because the forums are pretty awful to be honest. I really like DAI so I hope they refine it and make it something amazing.

[keyip]

I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate Bioware on 100 Game of the Year awards.

 

One fifth of which were Reader's Choice awards.

[JasonPogo]

Let me start this by saying yes this is 100% my opinion and NOT fact.  But this game getting so many game of the years awards is very very sad.  The popular opinion on what makes a good game these days is so far off what I think makes a good game is scary.  Crappy story and dumbed down RPG elements with a boring unconnected open world.  Fans of DAO asked for NONE of these things.  But it is obvious that we are not who Bioware is targeting anymore.

[Vegeta 77]

Not hard for Dai to get goty when a lot of the games where disappointing last year.

 

It is a good game but poor story boring villain and it is buggy.

 

Last of us should have got goty again and if witcher came out last year it would have won and i am not that big a witcher fan.

[In Exile]

Let me start this by saying yes this is 100% my opinion and NOT fact.  But this game getting so many game of the years awards is very very sad.  The popular opinion on what makes a good game these days is so far off what I think makes a good game is scary.  Crappy story and dumbed down RPG elements with a boring unconnected open world.  Fans of DAO asked for NONE of these things.  But it is obvious that we are not who Bioware is targeting anymore.

 

I missed the meeting where we named you Official Speaker of Dragon Age Origin Fans Who Have a Hive Mind And Agree On What Features We Liked. Shucks. 

[wolfhowwl]

Dark Souls II came out too early in the year. Destiny was a crushing disappointment. Assassin's Creed Unity was an outright blunder. No one is lame enough to give the nod to a remaster.

 

Divinity? LOL PC "gaming"

 

Bayonetta 2, um what's a Wii U?

 

2014 was a weak year for AAA, BioWare managed to just show up. Luckily 2015 will be making up for it and then some.

[keyip]

Anybody who thinks "The Witcher 3" will be the saviour of RPGs forgets how "dumbed down" Witcher 2 was. In fact, Witcher 2 suffers from many of the criticisms of Inquisition (no attributes, dumbed down skills, action combat which focuses on rolling etc etc.)

 

The fact of the matter is "The Witcher 3" will continue the trend of all AAA RPGs, which is away from tedious and hardcore RPG mechanics.

[Evamitchelle]

If anyone was wondering this is where you can see each year's GOTY award winners. 
 
DAI is clearly in the lead with 100 votes, Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor comes 2nd with 38, Mario Kart comes 3rd with 24. When you compare it to the number of awards that 2013's Top 3 got (The Last of Us with 249, GTAV with 159, Bioshock Infinite with 43), it seems to reflect the idea that 2014 was rather underwhelming (there are still a handful of awards not given out yet though, like IGN, Neogaf, BAFTA etc.). 

[wolfhowwl]

 

Anybody who thinks "The Witcher 3" will be the saviour of RPGs forgets how "dumbed down" Witcher 2 was. In fact, Witcher 2 suffers from many of the criticisms of Inquisition (no attributes, dumbed down skills, action combat which focuses on rolling etc etc.)

 

The fact of the matter is "The Witcher 3" will continue the trend of all AAA RPGs, which is away from tedious and hardcore RPG mechanics.

 

 

Yeah and good ****** riddance. Those people can go jerk-off over Pillars of Eternity while the rest of us will be having fun in ARPGs like Bloodborne and TW3 (YMMV depending on how much they've improved from TW2).

[JasonPogo]

I missed the meeting where we named you Official Speaker of Dragon Age Origin Fans Who Have a Hive Mind And Agree On What Features We Liked. Shucks. 

 

Yes the whole part where I started the post with it being 100% my opinion should totally be ignored....

[MadDemiurg]

 

Anybody who thinks "The Witcher 3" will be the saviour of RPGs forgets how "dumbed down" Witcher 2 was. In fact, Witcher 2 suffers from many of the criticisms of Inquisition (no attributes, dumbed down skills, action combat which focuses on rolling etc etc.)

 

The fact of the matter is "The Witcher 3" will continue the trend of all AAA RPGs, which is away from tedious and hardcore RPG mechanics.

 

Thing is TW is actually a full ARPG, while DA:I is a mix of the worst parts of ARPG, tactical RPG and MMO.

 

I wouldn't mind a well done ARPG. It's funny you mention combat that focuses on rolling in context of Inquisition criticisms, because in Inquisition it's impossible to roll. TW also started as ARPG and I wouldn't say TW2 was dumbed down if you compare it to TW1.

 

I also sincerely hope TW3 will have a good plot, not the excuse DA:I has for it, but the time will show.