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I didn't say there wouldn't be a male option. I said 'default'. In the same way that Male shepard is the 'default' option in the series we have.

 

Actually, the tweet never said anything about the "default" option, either. It only says the original character model for the animation tests was female. You are drawing some unrelated conclusions from it.


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Well, there you go. The fact that it took 8-10 years to find out something so fundamental to the series' origins is borderline depressing.

 

There's nothing fundamental to the series' origins about which animation model's test was done first.



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As has been mentioned before, Shepard is named after the first American in space, Alan Shepard. Given that a man was the namesake of the character, the only constant characteristic of our protagonist, it seems rather unlikely that the series was envisioned as having a female default. Customization and differentiation are hallmarks of the series; I suspect that the decision to have both genders available to the player was present from the start.

 

I'm surprised that so many people think that the reason Femshep wasn't included in marketing until ME3 was motivated by some degree of sexism. There are legitimate reasons that only Sheploo would be present in advertisements, it lends a single identifiable/iconic character to anything related to "Mass Effect". Male Shepard can look drastically different, yet you never see any other rendition of him (only default Shepard). It wasn't until ME3 that I suppose they realized that N7 armor could be the marketable image.


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Yeah, I see it as a cool little factoid, sort of like how Ripley from Alien was supposed to be a man, but they cast Sigourney Weaver instead. The fact that Ripley was the only one to survive in the end was not some feminist statement, but was, at the time, a twist on the traditionally horror movie ending.

 

It's true that the role was suppose to be a man and I like to think Weaver was cast because of how good she was but the main character of a horror movie being a woman is far from a twist, it was fairly common.

 

Regardless of gender we empathize more with the protagonist than other characters as the film is normally from there point of view and because true or not we naturally see women as less able to defend themselves than men so a moment of horror seems to work better from there point of view.



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Great news, I just wish they'd say that earlier and not 10 years later. :mellow:

Also dudeshep was never the "default". There's no default gender, both Jane and John are the defaults.

 

He was just there for marketing purposes (which annoyed me, grew so tired of him being everywhere).

don't be so misandrist



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don't be so misandrist

 

LOL



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It's wonderful to see. The split should have been 50/50 throughout all advertising, IMO.

This puts to shame all the men that say stupid things like "Female Shepard isn't the way it's supposed to be played!" Not only is FemShep an option, but Shepard's first steps were walked by FemShep.


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I think that Mass Effect should have advertised Shepard with both male shep and female shep on the box art / advertisements right off of the getgo.  There are a lot of female gamers out there.  If they want to play femshep, it's there for them and I'm glad.

 

In all reality, Bioware did a lot of work on the game to represent Mshep and Femshep.  Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale did amazing work representing both sides of the coin.

 

I don't know if there is 50% of the gaming population represented by females yet, but them knowing that they are considered equally should help balance that out.



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This thread title is laughably wrong. Shepard was never a woman by default, they were always going to have both genders, it's just that Female Shepard was animated first. That is it.
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This thread title is laughably wrong. Shepard was never a woman by default, they were always going to have both genders, it's just that Female Shepard was animated first. That is it.

Exactly, and it is just nice to know we (women) were not an afterthought. I hope no abuse is enacted towards the devs just because of that tweet. 



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The Internet jumped to false conclusions and overreacted.  I'm shocked.

 

In other news: the sky is blue and cats are moody. 


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It's wonderful to see. The split should have been 50/50 throughout all advertising, IMO.

This puts to shame all the men that say stupid things like "Female Shepard isn't the way it's supposed to be played!" Not only is FemShep an option, but Shepard's first steps were walked by FemShep.

so what FemShep is somehow superior because of that?  lol

 

No but seriously

I think FemShep was treated very good in this series just because she wasn't advertised doesn't mean she was somehow abandoned



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so what FemShep is somehow superior because of that? lol

I think FemShep was treated very good in this series just because she wasn't advertised doesn't mean she was somehow abandoned

Personally, I do NOT think she was treated well during the series. Considered, yes. Treated well, absolutely not. But again my opinion since I play/am a female and noticed some issues (particularly with romances). I got the distinct feeling they were trying to force my character to be a lesbian. I am glad for Garrus's romance, but feel even there the writers did not want that romance to happen.

 

 

To add. I hope they make a Mass Effect movie featuring a female Shepard who later ends up with Garrus. :D



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Personally, I do NOT think she was treated well during the series. Considered, yes. Treated well, absolutely not. But again my opinion since I play/am a female and noticed some issues (particularly with romances).

yeah the romances were definitely very uneven but then again you got Garrus and the ME2 romances (if you are talking about how poor Thane was treated) were all shafted in ME3

 

I mean its not like MaleShep had more content



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Well, there you go. The fact that it took 8-10 years to find out something so fundamental to the series' origins is borderline depressing.

 

How in the world is Shepard's gender fundamental to the origins?

 

Considering the fact that he says Shepard was always planned to be either gender, it's actually not fundamental in the slightest way (except for animations, which were generally pretty good and didn't have the "ME TARZAN" of ME2).



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To add. I hope they make a Mass Effect movie featuring a female Shepard


YES.
 

who later ends up with Garrus. :D


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yeah the romances were definitely very uneven but then again you got Garrus and the ME2 romances (if you are talking about how poor Thane was treated) were all shafted in ME3

 

I mean its not like MaleShep had more content

Don't forget Jacob cheating after 6 months, knocking someone up and starting a family during a reaper war, rubbing it in her face, then having the other woman rub it in her face, and oh...we naming the baby after you. You can't really call him out on it in the vanilla game. But Kaidan sure as hell called her out on sleeping around after the 2 year separation. I wish I could have put Kaidan in his place like male Shepard could put Ashley in her place.

 

The world is largely designed with a 'him' in mind rather than a 'her' in mind, and that is just how I personally feel. Female Shepard practically has to throw herself at her possible suitors to get noticed. Male Shepard has women throwing themselves at him or finds out they adore and have a crush on him. Lots of asari strippers...where are the turian strippers? 

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nuff said


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YES.
 

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LoL. I wonder how the news media would react to a love scene between female Shepard and Garrus. 



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nuff said

Yep. Bro and Sis. How it should be...yes!



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Yep. Bro and Sis. How it should be...yes!

 

.... something that didn't happen in marketing.


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.... something that didn't happen in marketing.

 

How many games do you know of with created protagonists that get marketed with more than one?



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How many games do you know of with created protagonists that get marketed with more than one?

 

It was 2 created protagonists. One trailer for male and female wouldn't be hard (just like they did with ME3 but they went and ruined it with constantly showing dudeshep only). A handful of trailers that show both would have been ideal. Like few trailers for male and other for female.

And i don't give a fig about other games, i'm talking about this game and what should've been done.

 

I just don't get it at all. Games like these shouldn't have shown the "protagonist" at all since they're customizable. Unless is a set one and Mass Effect doesn't have a set protagonist.


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It was 2 created protagonists. One trailer for male and female wouldn't be hard

 

 

May have had nothing to do with what's hard or not and just simply marketing, what people think is fair doesn't come into it.



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It's just a trailer goddamnit *sighs*

The game still is the same for everyone.