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#101
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Not a bad choice, but I'm partial to Antje Traue, as someone posted here ages ago:
 
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That's one tough, sexy woman. When I play Femshep, that's the type of character I try to create. The tools offered make Barbie Dolls easier by far, by I've a stable of cool FemSheps I've made over the years.

Honestly, either would make a cool baseline for the next protagonist.

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I find it rediculous that in this day and age; people refuse to look at other's perspective because it "ruffles their feathers". We often don't realize how much marketing and mass media influence society. To be blunt ( and acknowledging the elephant in the room ) women are horribly and underwhelmingly represented in media, but more importantly ~ the gaming industry.

When an organization markets one option, they're essentially saying "this is who this game is for", "these are the people we want playing our games" whether intentional or not. A survey of the current gaming landscape reveals a detrimental lack of diversity. Among the most anticipated games of this year, you see: Batman Arkham Knight, Halo 5, MGS V, Mighty No.9, The Legend Of Zelda Wii U, The Witcher 3, The Division, Uncharted 4, The Order 1886, Battlefield Hardline, Rainbow 6 Siege, and Final Fantasy XV ( most which predominantly feature white males as the protagonist ). Albeit we are doing better with Rise Of The Tomb Raider and No Man's Sky ( which isn't even a triple A title ). There really is no denying this ludicrous abscence of diversity.

Maybe when you live in a world where your very definition; your only importance is represented as a sexual object, when your voice is labaled as "femenist extremism", when you pick up a controller and your gender is reduced to being an incable princess who has to wait on a plumber to come save her. Maybe then you'll get it.

And somehow - by chance - you finally find this freaking awesome character. She can be whoever you want to be and look however you want her to look. Only to get this acknowledged at the backend of a series - that has already been defined by years of marketing - with a trailer that was hardly shown.
Maybe when jokes about your menstral cycle being implemented into gameplay are thrown around ( seriously guys? ) Maybe thats when you will get it.

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I love bioware and their push for diversity has been amazing. It is definitly something I appreciate. However, marketing communicates what your game is about and DOES have an impact on who buys it. Diversity is important people. And more specific to this; Women are treated as lesser in the gaming industry and its culture. This is not an opinion, this is fact.

And this needs to change

 

I could understand griping if Mass Effect locked you into playing a male protagonist, but that isn't the case. You're griping about the ability to create a female version of the protagonist not making it into this teaser or this trailer, when both were more focused on explaining what the game was about then what its features were. Notice that the ability to customize a male protagonist isn't advertised there either. And two versions of the same protagonist in either trailer would been confusing.

 

I think when people start complaining about Fem Shep not being in trailers, they are tilting at windmills a bit.


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I find it rediculous that in this day and age; people refuse to look at other's perspective because it "ruffles their feathers". We often don't realize how much marketing and mass media influence society. To be blunt ( and acknowledging the elephant in the room ) women are horribly and underwhelmingly represented in media, but more importantly ~ the gaming industry.
When an organization markets one option, they're essentially saying "this is who this game is for", "these are the people we want playing our games" whether intentional or not. A survey of the current gaming landscape reveals a detrimental lack of diversity. Among the most anticipated games of this year, you see: Batman Arkham Knight, Halo 5, MGS V, Mighty No.9, The Legend Of Zelda Wii U, The Witcher 3, The Division, Uncharted 4, The Order 1886, Battlefield Hardline, Rainbow 6 Siege, and Final Fantasy XV ( most which predominantly feature white males as the protagonist ). Albeit we are doing better with Rise Of The Tomb Raider and No Man's Sky ( which isn't even a triple A title ). There really is no denying this ludicrous abscence of diversity.
Maybe when you live in a world where your very definition; your only importance is represented as a sexual object, when your voice is labaled as "femenist extremism", when you pick up a controller and your gender is reduced to being an incable princess who has to wait on a plumber to come save her. Maybe then you'll get it.
And somehow - by chance - you finally find this freaking awesome character. She can be whoever you want to be and look however you want her to look. Only to get this acknowledged at the backend of a series - that has already been defined by years of marketing - with a trailer that was hardly shown.
Maybe when jokes about your menstral cycle being implemented into gameplay are thrown around ( seriously guys? ) Maybe thats when you will get it.
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I love bioware and their push for diversity has been amazing. It is definitly something I appreciate. However, marketing communicates what your game is about and DOES have an impact on who buys it. Diversity is important people. And more specific to this; Women are treated as lesser in the gaming industry and its culture. This is not an opinion, this is fact.
And this needs to change

One's lack of passion for an issue doesn't make one an opponent of said issue. Maybe we neutrals haven't yet seen the importance others place in it. I've not seen any ruffled feathers here, though I don't doubt there have been crazy things said in other threads. I think there is simply a disconnect between those of us who don't much care either way, and those who have passionately expressed their disappointment in past BioWare marketing. I see it as a missed opportunity, but nothing more. I guess that shouldn't be surprising. You see it as an issue specifically affecting female members of the gaming community. I am a man that is not involved in the gaming community at all, beyond this forum, so I've probably never deeply considered it from your standpoint.

I know I personally have never taken exception to people expressing differing opinions. Of late, I've grown a bit tired of the frequent nastiness I've seen from many directions in these forums (but not in the ME forums), and that may have made me a bit snarky. I have seen some nasty attacks made against people on these forums (though not in the ME section) both for zealously championing one issue or another, and for failing to "toe the line" and agree with said issues. It's silly, because it only hinders any progress or understanding that could've been achieved by level-headed discussion. I generally stay completely out of those "hot button" conversations precisely because I have no interest in internet arguments. Those overzealous arguments make all participants seem "extremist" to me. If my snark upthread seemed aimed to attack or provoke, I apologize.

I don't think anyone would be overly upset if the next protagonist were "female by default", advertising and all. I intend to play both genders anyway, and suspect many intend the same. That being the case, I honestly couldn't care less about any "default" gender setting. I still don't see this as significant enough to be treated as a case of social inequity. That's just my opinion, though, and we need not agree. You're more invested in the issue, and that likely means your perspective is more developed than mine.
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Honestly, seeing people say ''FemShep is the only Shepard because she was meant to be default!'', ''FemShep was supposed to be default!'' and all that stuff is overly pathetic and stupid.

 

The female model was animated first, that's all. They didn't say anything about female being default.

 

People overreacted and imagined that it meant she was supposed to be default, while nothing led to believe that.


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They're moody, I tell ya.
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Haha. Too funny.

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Honestly, seeing people say ''FemShep is the only Shepard because she was meant to be default!'', ''FemShep was supposed to be default!'' and all that stuff is overly pathetic and stupid.

 

The female model was animated first, that's all. They didn't say anything about female being default.

 

People overreacted and imagined that it meant she was supposed to be default, while nothing led to believe that.

 

100% agree


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#108
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Personally MaleShep is always my default.



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Everyone was a women by once you, me, Shepard. But over the course of 9 months something happened what made him the man on the box art we know to day. 



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I've played SWKotOR, ME, DA:O, ME2, DA2, ME3, and DAI and there hasn't been one preselected default main character gender in any of these games. Concept Art is always a sketchy source of absolutes when taking about anything in the development process.


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I'm just gonna be completely honest. I'm ecstatic that you can choose your gender. I have no problem with FemShep but I want my hero to be a guy. 



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All my profiles have been guy-Shepard. I made one or two female Shepards but I never finished them. I think I deleted them. Anyway, if Shepard was originally supposed to be a girl it would not matter to me. All of my characters are based off of me to some extent. And I never use the default model.
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Anyway the op is out of context  as already stated both genders were always planned and the inspiration was Alan Shepard. As for marketing sheploo, why not? If they want to market the game to their male player base so be it(assuming all women hate male leads or think its sexist, which is a fallacy). If they see sheploo as Shepard, so be it. If male Shepard had actually been canon, so what. It's their damn game, and real life doesn't work on quotas, neither should games. Every time I get into an elevator there shouldn't have to be a gay guy, a strong woman, a black guy and an Asian or somehow the building owner is a bigot...

 

Granted this whole convo is borne of the same movement that decries accurate portrayals of gender roles in history as sexist. I just find it amusing that EA is actually bowing to the PC crowd lately. DA:I was horribly bland and PC as a result, though that could just be Gaider and his own crusade. However, I digress. 


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Holy sh*t there's a male Shepard as well....?!
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Because they'd prefer their own gender to be seen? Just like some dudes who prefer seeing dude protagonists since the marketing focus only on them.

I personally prefer female protagonists than male ones.

 

Why? Why is it such a big deal? The important thing is the game itself, how good it is. We have an option to pick our gender in the game. Why are trailes that are usually 1-2 minutes long that important? Everyone will forget about them they day the game comes out anyway. I see this argument about marketing for years and I still don't get why it's such a big problem.



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Holy sh*t there's a male Shepard as well....?!

 

Yeah,I heard he's voiced by a vorcha.


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Yeah,I heard he's voiced by a vorcha.


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Honestly, I hate Nintendo and Mario, but getting offended over a fantasy story where a fun character has to rescue a princess is a bit over the top really.
Besides, the princess isn't incapable at all, don't you get it? she's constantly PRETENDING to have to be rescued in every game.
Look at it... a young trophy wife, in the parlance of our times, you know, and she, uh, uh, owes money all over town, including to known hustlers, and that's cool... that's, that's cool, I'm, I'm saying, she needs money, man. And of course they're going to say that they didn't get it, because... she wants more, man! She's got to feed the monkey, I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?
And ... man, she kidnapped herself.


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They could have marketed the game with a Vorcha on the cover, and it wouldn't have made any difference, to me.

 

I've played games that were marketed with women, squirrels, dragons, plumbers, apes, two apes, just about everything. And I couldn't care less. The day I attach my interest to something on the basis of what a marketer or advertiser does is the day I go to my doctor to find out if I have early onset dementia.


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