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[Grraagg]

Are we really being taken by this Bioware gaming company now? I have bought many Bioware and EA products, by how is it right to bring to the market a game that is so rife with bugs? I welcome the multiplayer aspect, but if it was working it would be maybe ok. I have also played many other game company games and few are as incomplete as this game is. Will the word on EA and Bioware in the marketplace now be "Beware"?

 If you purchased an automobile with this many flaws, law would require a recall. Who protects gamers from this type of thing?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

 If you purchased an automobile with this many flaws, law would require a recall. Who protects gamers from this type of thing?

 

Not that the tendency to release games with numerous bugs isn't a legitimate issue, but comparing it to something that can kill people sort of diminishes your credibility.

[TormDK]

This topic surely has alot to do with Combat Strategy!

 

Why, one might even say "I see what you did there!"

[Aegore]

Do you have any examples? I haven't ran into many bugs playing this game.

[J. Peterman]

biower pls

[SofaJockey]

Platform?

 

On Xbox One the only meaningful single player bug I have is a couple of inaccessible mosaic pieces.

Multiplayer has a few issues certainly but it's not enough to stop me playing.

 

PC has more issues, yes?

[Kantr]

PC has more issues, yes?

Pc will always have issues due to different hardware and software combinations plus drivers.

 

That being said I have no bugs.

[Benman1964]

It's not Beware, it's bEAware.

[SpaceV3gan]

All the in-game bugs put together aren't much of a big deal. Playing from a Third World region, I have all of the bugs everyone has on top of severe connectivity problems. Still, it hasn't stopped me from playing the game, yet.

Though DAMP is a pretty lackluster game and it is ok to be disappointed. I just don't see the bugs having much to do with it.

[SofaJockey]

In short:

 

Understand the point.

 

But name calling a bit lame, to be honest.

[Galaxy_Siege]

comparing games to cars.....lol good lord.

 

I have enjoyed dozens of hours of the multiplayer. the bugs aren't that bad. yeah the occasional key glitch is there and rampage bug is annoying but it hasn't stopped me from finishing a few hundred matches. /shrug

[knownastherat]

Games are not being made, they are being developed to paraphrase a classic. 

 

This is to say that there are objective reasons why software products cannot live up to standards of space industry. Then again, I wonder how many bugs had Opportunity in its software when it landed on Mars. So that is one thing.

 

Another thing is that when we purchase game we purchase license to use it. We cannot take digital game and give it to a friend, despite we paid full price for product and in a sense "its ours". It is not. People pay for something which is not theirs to own and if they come to conclusion that game does not meet their expectations, often hyped and almost mislead by marketing, they are out of luck as the law is not on their side. 

 

Which brings us to return policy. EA, believe it or not, does have return policy .. we stand by our games  .. or some bullshit like that. 24 hours. After that, there is perhaps Hare Krishna on-line support and quite a bother when trying to get what could be viewed as broken product, product not working as advertised, fixed as seen on this board, in this section.

 

So yes and no. Perhaps the software industry cannot be held to the same standards as nature of development does not allow for it, but it can be held to the same standards when it comes to everything else. Today I crashed to desktop 4 times and 2 times there was no key. Frankly, I do not care whether Bioware was on holiday. As I said before do not release stuff you cannot support. So I feel cheated. And there is absolutely nothing, but not buying their next game, I can do about it. And I should, I should have rights.

[Galaxy_Siege]

Games are not being made, they are being developed to paraphrase a classic. 

 

This is to say that there are objective reasons why software products cannot live up to standards of space industry. Then again, I wonder how many bugs had Opportunity in its software when it landed on Mars. So that is one thing.

 

Another thing is that when we purchase game we purchase license to use it. We cannot take digital game and give it to a friend, despite we paid full price for product and in a sense "its ours". It is not. People pay for something which is not theirs to own and if they come to conclusion that game does not meet their expectations, often hyped and almost mislead by marketing, they are out of luck as the law is not on their side. 

 

Which brings us to return policy. EA, believe it or not, does have return policy .. we stand by our games  .. or some bullshit like that. 24 hours. After that, there is perhaps Hare Krishna on-line support and quite a bother when trying to get what could be viewed as broken product, product not working as advertised, fixed as seen on this board, in this section.

 

So yes and no. Perhaps the software industry cannot be held to the same standards as nature of development does not allow for it, but it can be held to the same standards when it comes to everything else. Today I crashed to desktop 4 times and 2 times there was no key. Frankly, I do not care whether Bioware was on holiday. As I said before do not release stuff you cannot support. So I feel cheated. And there is absolutely nothing, but not buying their next game, I can do about it. And I should, I should have rights.

 

you do have rights. the right to choose whether or not to buy it. if you had exercised patience and waited a month to see the state of the game then you could have avoided the purchase. no one made you buy it. that is your right good sir. so get off your entitled high horse. the other option is to stop playing this game for a few months and play something else and come back when it is patched. *gasp* that would make too much sense. 

 

look at civ 5 for example. one of the buggiest pieces of **** on launch. a year or so later it morphed into a truly amazing game. i regretted at first but eventually it consumed far too much of  my life.

[Bocochoco]

This topic surely has alot to do with Combat Strategy!
 
Why, one might even say "I see what you did there!"

This will continue until a feedback/suggestions for multiplayer thread is created
3 minutes time for devs
As much time as they spend to review and lock a 200 post thread

[coldflame]

This topic surely has alot to do with Combat Strategy!

 

Why, one might even say "I see what you did there!"

Blame bioware for the lack of MP feedback/suggestion section, not the customers.

[TormDK]

This has nothing to do with a suggestion though. This is pure unadulterated whining, and the OP should know better.

 

I do suppose, given his username, he is stuck in some sort of infant stage though.

[knownastherat]

you do have rights. the right to choose whether or not to buy it. if you had exercised patience and waited a month to see the state of the game then you could have avoided the purchase. no one made you buy it. that is your right good sir. so get off your entitled high horse. the other option is to stop playing this game for a few months and play something else and come back when it is patched. *gasp* that would make too much sense. 

 

look at civ 5 for example. one of the buggiest pieces of **** on launch. a year or so later it morphed into a truly amazing game. i regretted at first but eventually it consumed far too much of  my life.

 

Why should I exercise patience? Because I know how it works .. or something like that?

 

Of course no one made me buy it, at the same time no one told me that the game has bugs. No one told me tool tips do not correspond to factual state of effects. No one told me how loots system and progression will work. No one told me that team will go on holiday while their product is broken. No one told me .. etc etc

 

If I want to buy a car I do not exercise patience. I go to dealer, they show me specs, let me drive it and let me look at engine, offer warranty etc so I can make informed decision. As I said, game is not car but at the same time there is such a  thing as "working as advertised" as it was info from advertising I based my decision to buy game upon. It is not working as advertised. What patience?

[Cassandra Saturn]

it certainly doesn't give him any right complain about it if he should have waited for a month. I've been waiting for long time it did paid off, I got money soon to buy PS4, X1 and DAI with few other games together.

everyone knows that every game is gonna come out with bugs. you have to deal with it if you want to WAIT for month to get Patch.

[SofaJockey]

Oh wow.

• Game release totally bug free? Unrealistic.
  There are plenty of AAA games with many more bugs than DAI.
• Game mechanics and loot progression were not advertised?
  Players have the game, now they know.
• Employees must continue to work through the holidays?
  Software is clearly an emergency service?
  Bah humbug, chain them to their desks!

DAI is a pretty fine game, sure it has some bugs, few games don't.

I remember how buggy Skyrim was on release (5 patches).

 

We know there is another patch inbound.

 

If the game operation of DAI makes people this unhappy,

what state would they be in if something important went wrong in their life?

[Dorje Sylas]

Not that the tendency to release games with numerous bugs isn't a legitimate issue, but comparing it to something that can kill people sort of diminishes your credibility.

If my refrigerator or microwave stops working or does not chill/warm food at the correct rate, guess what I get back? My money or a fixed appliance.

 

Car's are just an easy example of an industry that fucked up so much in the early years, that not only was it sued hard and often, it is now regulated.

 

Do we need to do that? Get the government involved in regulating the quality and stability of software? Cause we can do that. We can pass some laws and make everyone's life Red-Tape Hell. OR Game devs can realize we are reaching that point and stop releasing broken products.

 

EA/BioWare Devs. Your choice.

 

1) Keep making broken products and we (the people) throw layer after layer of government regulatory hell on you.

 

2) Stop making broken products and regulate yourselves.

[Aegore]

If my refrigerator or microwave stops working or does not chill/warm food at the correct rate, guess what I get back? My money or a fixed appliance.

 

Car's are just an easy example of an industry that fucked up so much in the early years, that not only was it sued hard and often, it is now regulated.

 

Do we need to do that? Get the government involved in regulating the quality and stability of software? Cause we can do that. We can pass some laws and make everyone's life Red-Tape Hell. OR Game devs can realize we are reaching that point and stop releasing broken products.

 

EA/BioWare Devs. Your choice.

 

1) Keep making broken products and we (the people) throw layer after layer of government regulatory hell on you.

 

2) Stop making broken products and regulate yourselves.

 

I'm glad Bioware didn't release a broken product. DA:I is one of the best games I have played on Xbox One in a long time and i have experienced very few bugs.

[Kinom001]

The expectation of any software consumer expecting a bug free product, no matter how much QA is done, is unrealistic. Besides, EA offers a return policy if I'm not mistaken (and make no mistake, I'm no fan of EA overall).

 

And car recalls? Really? Now that's some serious ass hyperbole.

[Catastrophy]

This is an outrage! I demand action!

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

If my refrigerator or microwave stops working or does not chill/warm food at the correct rate, guess what I get back? My money or a fixed appliance.

 

Car's are just an easy example of an industry that fucked up so much in the early years, that not only was it sued hard and often, it is now regulated.

 

Besides being over-simplified, it's not a particularly apt comparison.

 

For one thing, your ability to return a defective product is not primarily a consequence of industry regulation. I can return a defective game and get my money back. If you can't, it's because of the lack of commerce regulation in your jurisdiction. The regulations governing commerce are separate from those of industry.

 

Second, car recalls are not the result of regulation, and never were. They are the result of tort law. If a car company's potential losses to lawsuits are greater than the cost of a recall, the recall will occur. If they are not, there will be no recall. Regulations rarely play a role in this.

 

Third, comparing a game that has bugs to cars, where failure can result in the loss of life, is not a particularly convincing argument. One can be fixed with patches, that can be dispensed at no additional cost to the consumer. The other results in dead people.

[DBR87]

You can really tell who's a rationale human being in this thread.

 

But honestly, I don't see why people just don't return the game if they are so dissatisfied with it. Just to let you know, most of the time the constant show of disdain is not going to cause other people to throw away the game/sell it/return it no matter how much you say you don't like it for this reason or that. So save yourself the trouble of making a thread and being ridiculed about a products faults and just return it on your own accord.

 

Or do what you want. Whatever homey...