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[thesuperdarkone2]

Let's be honest, we need a dwarf divine. Nothing you can't fix with a dwarf.

Then choose Leliana. She lets dwarfs become priests which could make a dwarf divine a possibility in the future.

[ThreeF]

Cassandra is a new kind of Divine. I think the fact that she couldn't give any less of a sh*te about pomp and ceremony and petty squabbles is more of a plus than a negative. 

 

That's definitely one way of looking at it , the other is that her lack of diplomatic finesse will create many enemies who in the best case scenario will outmaneuver her. 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

That's definitely one way of looking at it , the other is that her lack of diplomatic finesse will create many enemies who in the best case scenario will outmaneuver her. 

 

She can just put Josephine and the Inquisition on speed-dial, then, in a worst case scenario. No biggie. 

[dragonflight288]

That's definitely one way of looking at it , the other is that her lack of diplomatic finesse will create many enemies who in the best case scenario will outmaneuver her. 

 

Outmaneuver the Divine who has Leliana and Josephine as friends and is the lover my Inquisitor?

 

They must be stupid. 

[BobZilla84]

Outmaneuver the Divine who has Leliana and Josephine as friends and is the lover my Inquisitor?
 
They must be stupid. 

I am torn about the choice of the Divine because I Romanced Cass and Leli romanced my Warden and I like the idea of Leli returning to be with my Warden after DAI so I am forced to break up one of my Protags Romance or choose Viv well Viv it is

[thesuperdarkone2]

I am torn about the choice of the Divine because I Romanced Cass and Leli romanced my Warden and I like the idea of Leli returning to be with my Warden after DAI so I am forced to break up one of my Protags Romance or choose Viv well Viv it is

The devs confirmed that Leliana changes the rules regarding the Divine's celibacy so that she can be with the Warden. Cass as far as we know won't and thus will break up with the Inquisitor. Thus, Leliana won't break up with the Warden if she's divine while Cass will. More reason Leliana is the best divine. She doesn't let rules stop her from being with the one she loves.

[BobZilla84]

The devs confirmed that Leliana changes the rules regarding the Divine's celibacy so that she can be with the Warden. Cass as far as we know won't and thus will break up with the Inquisitor. Thus, Leliana won't break up with the Warden if she's divine while Cass will. More reason Leliana is the best divine. She doesn't let rules stop her from being with the one she loves.

Well thats settles it Cass is never gonna sit her A## on the Sun Burst Throne all Hail Divine Leli may her reign be long and fruitful and also may she give birth to many little Surana's. Alim Greatly Approves

[thesuperdarkone2]

Well thats settles it Cass is never gonna sit her A## on the Sun Burst Throne all Hail Divine Leli may her reign be long and fruitful and also may she give birth to many little Surana's. Alim Greatly Approves

Feels good to make someone see the light. All hail Leliana, the true Divine!

[dragonflight288]

Well thats settles it Cass is never gonna sit her A## on the Sun Burst Throne all Hail Divine Leli may her reign be long and fruitful and also may she give birth to many little Surana's. Alim Greatly Approves

 

Cassandra is probably happier away from the politics that come with the throne anyway. 

[Augustei]

I am torn between cassandra and leliana(would be softened leliana) as the next divine.

To begin, Vivienne is out of question because she's not my cup of tea, and I believe things need to change, not be restored back to what they were.

I almost want to choose cassandra, because I do believe in having a circle, and that magic needs some sort of oversight. However, cassandra just doesn't seem like a good fit for the divine. She detests politics( you see this if you bring her to the winter palace mission), she has no background in the game, and lastly seems to rash to have such a responsibility.

Leliana on the other hand, I also am not fond of being the next divine. One, I don't believe in absolute freedom of mages, I believe that's a slippery slope, and one that could lead to serious conquesnces. Let alone most of the stories you gather in codex or reading the various books, show that mages are often better off in the circle than in the real world, because people fear magic and mages in general( for good reasons). However, she wood be a good a divine in the sense, she loves politics and is as good in "the game" as anyone else. Also she has been running/ruling a huge spy network, which speaks on her ability to govern.

I was wondering what yours guys opinions were, and who should be the next divine?
As a note, I am romancing Josephine so I don't care about cassandra becoming divine because I am not romancing her.

Cass indeed has little political knowledge, but that just means she knows who to turn to regarding political matters
Like Alistair with the Warden/Anora, somebody she can learn from and defer to =D

Anyway I get the impression from your post that you'd much prefer Cassandra anyway, So I'll tell you what you want to hear anyway =P. Pick Cassandra.

Me though I picked Vivienne, That she's a mage means her rule will be unstable and she will be reliant on the Inquisitions forces for stability (The fact that most of the templars stayed with me make this even more true) So my Inquisitor will have a great deal of influence over the Sunburst Throne. But also because I like Viviennes policies. It says mages are quick to rise in the new circle, and that they are given more freedoms but also more responsibilites.
I take this to mean they participate more within the system and within the community, But since they aren't completely free they won't be lynched by a mob for taking up all the work
Good times.

 

[AWTEW]

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Well thats settles it Cass is never gonna sit her A## on the Sun Burst Throne all Hail Divine Leli may her reign be long and fruitful and also may she give birth to many little Surana's. Alim Greatly Approves

Well, just becasue initially cass might break it up..doesnt mean it's forever. And, whether hardened or softened, Lelliana is too mentally unstable for the sunburst throne( thats just my opinion people can go with lelianna if they wish), and vivvene is too conservative. Cass is a good middle balance.

[Tocs]

Personally I chose Vivienne. She has the politics and the smarts to work the Templars better being a mage and understanding. And I don't understand why some agree to mage freedom. Tevinter has it and they're stuck up and use blood magic sacrifices. So Leliana is not for me and Cassandra is my love interest so I want to keep her. If I had to choose out of Cassandra and Vivienne without Cassandra being my romance, Cassandra for sure.

[thesuperdarkone2]

. Well, just becasue initially cass might break it up..doesnt mean it's forever. And, whether hardened or softened, Lelliana is too mentally unstable for the sunburst throne, and vivvene is too conservative. Cass is a good middle balance.

The Chantry has a rule for the Divine to be celibate. Therefore, since Cass doesn't want to rock the boat that much, she won't break that rule or be one to keep a secret lover. Therefore, the break-up is permanent. Also, seems like you can't accept that somebody prefers Leliana. 

[I present Chuck Bass]

Cass indeed has little political knowledge, but that just means she knows who to turn to regarding political matters
Like Alistair with the Warden/Anora, somebody she can learn from and defer to =D
Anyway I get the impression from your post that you'd much prefer Cassandra anyway, So I'll tell you what you want to hear anyway =P. Pick Cassandra.
Me though I picked Vivienne, That she's a mage means her rule will be unstable and she will be reliant on the Inquisitions forces for stability (The fact that most of the templars stayed with me make this even more true) So my Inquisitor will have a great deal of influence over the Sunburst Throne. But also because I like Viviennes policies. It says mages are quick to rise in the new circle, and that they are given more freedoms but also more responsibilites.
I take this to mean they participate more within the system and within the community, But since they aren't completely free they won't be lynched by a mob for taking up all the work
Good times.

Or she has other connections she can call upon. Let's not forget they say she's a powerful women in thedas, something tells me she has made sure enough people owe her favors. Viv gives me the impression, that she wouldn't take the throne without a bulletproof plan.In the end I don't trust her.

I would prefer cassndra though, but I think leliana will do a better job, and eliminate a lot of the bullcrap in the chantry( like the not being able to have a partner, which she abolishes). The game/developers made it clear that leliana had a purpose far beyond her kknowledge, I just wish I knew if being divine was her destiny. Leliana would embrace the position I know that, cassandra would too, but only to fulfill her duty. Her place is in the seekers.

[I present Chuck Bass]

Personally I chose Vivienne. She has the politics and the smarts to work the Templars better being a mage and understanding. And I don't understand why some agree to mage freedom. Tevinter has it and they're stuck up and use blood magic sacrifices. So Leliana is not for me and Cassandra is my love interest so I want to keep her. If I had to choose out of Cassandra and Vivienne without Cassandra being my romance, Cassandra for sure.

Mage freedom would be ideal, but it just wouldn't work out well, therefore my inquisitor can't be the one responsible for freeing them. I don't want him to be known in history as "that guy who saved the world, oh and help freed those effing mages"

[I present Chuck Bass]

The Chantry has a rule for the Divine to be celibate. Therefore, since Cass doesn't want to rock the boat that much, she won't break that rule or be one to keep a secret lover. Therefore, the break-up is permanent. Also, seems like you can't accept that somebody prefers Leliana.

Cassandra can certainly grow as a character to the point where she feels like she can break that rule if not others. In the game alone she has grown as a character, let alone years as a divine.

[AWTEW]

The Chantry has a rule for the Divine to be celibate. Therefore, since Cass doesn't want to rock the boat that much, she won't break that rule or be one to keep a secret lover. Therefore, the break-up is permanent. Also, seems like you can't accept that somebody prefers Leliana.

People can prefer lelliana, and thats cool I just personally can't see it.( Perhpas I worded my initial post wrong?). As for cass not wwanting to rock the boat, that is as far as we know..only short term. What's to say, that Once she is more stable in her position, that she won't call bshit on the celibicy thing and reform it.

Besides whats to say her lover couldn't be he 'right hand' in more wasy than one .

[thesuperdarkone2]

Cassandra can certainly grow as a character to the point where she feels like she can break that rule if not others. In the game alone she has grown as a character, let alone years as a divine.

Cass' Divine rule is reform without radical change. That's the whole point of why people choose her. Don't forget Cass herself outright says she doesn't think the relationship can continue if she becomes divine. Also, Cass continuing the relationship if she's divine is about as likely as her disbanding the circles. Face it, she'll break up with you if she's divine.

[I present Chuck Bass]

Cass' Divine rule is reform without radical change. That's the whole point of why people choose her. Don't forget Cass herself outright says she doesn't think the relationship can continue if she becomes divine. Also, Cass continuing the relationship if she's divine is about as likely as her disbanding the circles. Face it, she'll break up with you if she's divine.

I smell a Josephine romancer.. Wait no...*smells again*.. Iron bull.

[thesuperdarkone2]

I smell a Josephine romancer.. Wait no...*smells again*.. Iron bull.

I'm a Cass romancer. Never making her divine so she'll always be with my Inquisitor. You people who are expecting a continuing relationship if she's divine are in for a disappointment. Just another reason why I support Leliana.

[I present Chuck Bass]

I'm a Cass romancer. Never making her divine so she'll always be with my Inquisitor. You people who are expecting a continuing relationship if she's divine are in for a disappointment. Just another reason why I support Leliana.

In My cannon playthrough I am a Josephine romancer, so It doesn't matter to me. If leliana wasn't huge into Mage freedom I would make her divine in a heartbeat, but she is so now I ask myself... Do I force cassandra to have a miserable life as divine, or roll the die and hope the Mage freedom leads to something good? I still don't know the answer. I wish bioware would tell me.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I don't think cass will have necessarily miserable life as divine more for some time she will have problem change after being warrior for her entire life and she seems she will be rather unique as divine.Kinda reminds me alistair in dao if you make him king he isn't happy about it then but in dai he seems ejnoy being king more than being warden.

[thesuperdarkone2]

In My cannon playthrough I am a Josephine romancer, so It doesn't matter to me. If leliana wasn't huge into Mage freedom I would make her divine in a heartbeat, but she is so now I ask myself... Do I force cassandra to have a miserable life as divine, or roll the die and hope the Mage freedom leads to something good? I still don't know the answer. I wish bioware would tell me.

Considering Bioware's trend of making choices that could backfire not really backfire at all, I'd say mage freedom will end pretty good. After all, the Dark Ritual didn't backfire on us, letting Varric keep the red lyrium shard didn't backfire, and mage ending if Leliana is divine pretty much says mages get accepted throughout thedas. If you are expecting mage freedom to backfire, I wouldn't bet on it considering how other choices have gone.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Considering Bioware's trend of making choices that could backfire not really backfire at all, I'd say mage freedom will end pretty good. After all, the Dark Ritual didn't backfire on us, letting Varric keep the red lyrium shard didn't backfire, and mage ending if Leliana is divine pretty much says mages get accepted throughout thedas. If you are expecting mage freedom to backfire, I wouldn't bet on it considering how other choices have gone.

They said they will go to other places in thedas so they can in fact make choices backfire at least not on us but on world.And her epilogue was clear that everything is fine with mages for now and for now is rather there for good reason.

 

Also we don't know what they will do with archdemon soul in future as flemeth took it.

 

As well i don't have to remind magi boon that at first was like "yay happy ending" but devs decided to undone that because it was unrealistic.

[thesuperdarkone2]

They said they will go to other places in thedas so they can in fact make choices backfire at least not on us but on world.And her epilogue was clear that everything is fine with mages for now and for now is rather there for good reason.

 

Also we don't know what they will do with archdemon soul in future as flemeth took it.

 

As well i don't have to remind magi boon that at first was like "yay happy ending" but devs decided to undone that because it was unrealistic.

Difference is that back when they were making DAO, they didn't think the series was going to continue which is why everything seems pretty final with regards to the endings. With Inquisition, they know they are making more games so they aren't going to retcon things if they can help it. And if you think Leliana's ending is going to backfire, I can easily say the same things about the Cass or Vivienne endings. Man, I wish I could see your face if Leliana's ending turns out to be the best with no backfire. The butthurt would be glorius.