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[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Updated OP Information (based on several responses and retests)

 

- Elemental damage from Runes on non-staff weapons can count towards the elemental challenge, but only if the elemental damage gets credit for the kill. This means that lower-ranked runes on higher-damage weapons will achieve far fewer elemental kills than high-ranked runes on lower-damage weapons. This is the least reliable way to complete the challenge.

 

- Elemental spells of Fire, Frost, and Lightning will count towards the challenge. Poison and Spirit damage spells will not.

 

- Staves' elemental damage will count towards the challenge. If equipped with a Spirit rune, and the rune's damage bonus gets credit for the kill, it will not count. Most staff kills will reliably count towards the challenge.

 

OP is below:

(Most of the remaining OP text is not really relevant, and can be ignored. Only the information above is truly significant.)

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Edit:  I have removed the original post, because the information was inconsistent and confusing. It makes more sense simply to leave the updated information.

 

Thanks to everyone who responded with information.

[CRCError1970]

On a related note, My Alchemist's Elemental Mines seemed to be hit and miss for counting toward the goal.

Necromancer's Walking Bomb seemed to negate any elemental effects upon detonation. Flashfire and Winter’s Grasp kills counted toward the goal as expected.

 

[Amartell44]

For the weekend event I ran routine solo with my lvl 12 elementalist using immolate, winters grasp, frost step and barrier and killed plenty of mobs using just my staff as well and had over the 100 required kills at the end of the match... So all of those seemed to count towards the total at least.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Arcane Warrior Spirit blade and stone fist DID NOT count. Chain lightning and Frost step did.

Elementalist Immolate, Fire mine, Energy Barage and Fire Storm did count

It appears it has to be elemental (fire, cold and electricity) and not poison (nature) and spirit (spirit)

Runes do not proc enough and elemental staves do not seem to proc the kill count. 


Note: Reaver dragon rage claws do not count towards greatsword kills.. must kill with the sword.. which is annoying, before abilities also counted towards the weapon kills for challenges.. 

[hooblued]

For what I can tell, my poison and spirit did not count, but the electricity damage of my staff worked.

 

As usually, I wish bioware could be more precise about game informations.

[Exiled Ditto]

Note: Reaver dragon rage claws do not count towards greatsword kills.. must kill with the sword.. which is annoying, before abilities also counted towards the weapon kills for challenges.. 

 

A few hours ago I used my Reaver that had Starfang equipped, I think only one kill was swinging the sword itself and the rest were Dragon Rage and Devour. Every single kill counted towards my challenge

[TormDK]

Yeah, I did the greatsword one using reaver as well, All my dragon rage kills (Which was 100% out of the 95 kills I got in my first routine run) counted towards the event.

 

I then switched to the Elementalist, and my elemental kills did not include all my staff kills though, which was odd.

[Altruismo]

A few hours ago I used my Reaver that had Starfang equipped, I think only one kill was swinging the sword itself and the rest were Dragon Rage and Devour. Every single kill counted towards my challenge

Same here, 100% dragon rage kills and challenge completed.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

A few hours ago I used my Reaver that had Starfang equipped, I think only one kill was swinging the sword itself and the rest were Dragon Rage and Devour. Every single kill counted towards my challenge

 

I didn't have Dragon Rage, but I did use Devour, and none of them counted. Was the 2-handed weapon that you were using AoE, or Single Target? I believe that may be the factor.

 

Yeah, I did the greatsword one using reaver as well, All my dragon rage kills (Which was 100% out of the 95 kills I got in my first routine run) counted towards the event.

 

I then switched to the Elementalist, and my elemental kills did not include all my staff kills though, which was odd.

 

I definitely have been receiving kills towards the challenge from my Ice-Element Staff. What are the details of the weapons that you used? Perhaps the answer lies in the individual characteristics somewhere.

[Exiled Ditto]

I didn't have Dragon Rage, but I did use Devour, and none of them counted. Was the 2-handed weapon that you were using AoE, or Single Target? I believe that may be the factor.

 

As far as I am aware, all Greatsword-class weapons are considered AoE. Starfang for sure is AoE.

[The Allslayer]

Yeah, I did the greatsword one using reaver as well, All my dragon rage kills (Which was 100% out of the 95 kills I got in my first routine run) counted towards the event.

 

I then switched to the Elementalist, and my elemental kills did not include all my staff kills though, which was odd.

 

 

I assume you have a spirit rune on your staff? Any kills the spirit damage gets wont count.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I assume you have a spirit rune on your staff? Any kills the spirit damage gets wont count.

 

Actually, I had a spirit rune on mine, and they all counted. I'm not sure what the distinguishing factor is.

 

I'm testing my Reaver with a single target weapon right now.

[Kinom001]

I think elemental runes on weapons do count toward it. I did the greatsword challenge first with a superb fire run on the sword and had 25 kills in the elemental challenge when I started working on it w/ my mage.

[The Allslayer]

Actually, I had a spirit rune on mine, and they all counted. I'm not sure what the distinguishing factor is.

 

I'm testing my Reaver with a single target weapon right now.

 

No you misunderstand, you can get the kills with staves but if the spirit damage gets the kill it wont count. So if I get 50 staff kills a couple probably died from the spirit damage not the actual staff element damage.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

To add to the confusion, testing the single-target hammer with my Reaver also failed to produce any elemental kills.

 

Just to help distinguish the different potential factors, when you list what did or didn't work, mention the following:

 

- Platform (PC, Xbox One, etc.)

 

- Whether you have the DLC "Destruction" downloaded, or not

 

- Weapon type, as well as whether it is single-target or AoE

 

- Which class you used with the weapon

 

- Rune type (if applicable)

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

No you misunderstand, you can get the kills with staves but if the spirit damage gets the kill it wont count. So if I get 50 staff kills a couple probably died from the spirit damage not the actual staff element damage.

 

Okay, I could see that.

 

That wouldn't explain why I was fairly consistently able to get elemental kills with my Runed daggers, though. I had about 10 dagger kills with standard attacks, and they all counted, but only 10 damage from each attack would have been elemental, making the odds that the kill would have been specific to the elemental damage quite low.

 

There seems to be a lot of oddities and disparities to all this.

[The Allslayer]

Elemental kills from weapons other than staves only count when the damage from the rune gets the kill. You can't just slap a fire rune on a sword and get the 2500 kill challenge for both at the same time. This is super easy to test just make a note of how many kills of a certain element you have then play a couple of games with a weapon that has that elemental rune on using mostly auto attacks, you should now have a few more kills for said element.  

[tinler]

Yeah, I did the greatsword one using reaver as well, All my dragon rage kills (Which was 100% out of the 95 kills I got in my first routine run) counted towards the event.

 

I then switched to the Elementalist, and my elemental kills did not include all my staff kills though, which was odd.

 

Were you animation cancelling the last three hits out?  Maybe only hits that cause an elemental proc count.

 

 

 

Okay, I could see that.

 

That wouldn't explain why I was fairly consistently able to get elemental kills with my Runed daggers, though. I had about 10 dagger kills with standard attacks, and they all counted, but only 10 damage from each attack would have been elemental, making the odds that the kill would have been specific to the elemental damage quite low.

 

There seems to be a lot of oddities and disparities to all this.

 

What's your crit rate?  Maybe having a critical hit do enough damage also proc an elemental death (e.g., body freezes)?  It'd explain why sometimes the bodies would freeze while other times they don't.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Elemental kills from weapons other than staves only count when the damage from the rune gets the kill. You can't just slap a fire rune on a sword and get the 2500 kill challenge for both at the same time. This is super easy to test just make a note of how many kills of a certain element you have then play a couple of games with a weapon that has that elemental rune on using mostly auto attacks, you should now have a few more kills for said element.  

 

I was testing that just now, and I believe you are correct.

 

I'm not sure how others have managed to so consistently receive elemental kills using 2-handed weapons with Devour. I don't have Dragon Rage, but perhaps Dragon Rage kills inherently count as elemental? My Reaver was unable to replicate any of the other posters' results.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

What's your crit rate?  Maybe having a critical hit do enough damage also proc an elemental death (e.g., body freezes)?  It'd explain why sometimes the bodies would freeze while other times they don't.

 

I think the result may have been caused by a teammate priming enemies, while I somehow detonated them using my Assassin. I was unable to get any elemental kills with my Assassin when soloing.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I think elemental runes on weapons do count toward it. I did the greatsword challenge first with a superb fire run on the sword and had 25 kills in the elemental challenge when I started working on it w/ my mage.

 

Perhaps the fact that it was a Superb Rune increased the odds that the elemental damage would get credit for the kill. I have been testing using normal runes (with the exception of 1 Master Rune on my Assassin.)

[Jugger nuggss]

I used my Elementalist earlier and got half my kills when I was with some friends before work. Just use him and then salvage all the stuff you get from the chest

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

A few hours ago I used my Reaver that had Starfang equipped, I think only one kill was swinging the sword itself and the rest were Dragon Rage and Devour. Every single kill counted towards my challenge

 

Same here, 100% dragon rage kills and challenge completed.

 

I think I just figured this out.

 

These two posts refer to the Greatsword challenge, not the elemental challenge. If so, this has been a misunderstanding, and probably explains the discrepancy between their results and mine.

[The Allslayer]

I was testing that just now, and I believe you are correct.

 

I'm not sure how others have managed to so consistently receive elemental kills using 2-handed weapons with Devour. I don't have Dragon Rage, but perhaps Dragon Rage kills inherently count as elemental? My Reaver was unable to replicate any of the other posters' results.

 

They were refering to Greatsword kills not Elemental kills.

 

Edit: ninja'd lol.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Interesting.. I used all 50% is Dragon rage and 50% ish greatsword standard kills and only got 57 greatsword kills by the end of the round even though I had 118 kills total... I am on PC by the way.