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[Shadow Quickpaw]

I found what Thedas's people THINK happened in Thedas's history is far more simple than what ACTUALLY happened. Truth is stranger than fiction, as they say.

[Xx Serissia xX]

Having not read The Masked Empire yet I didn't feel like I could make an informed decision during Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts.

[littlebrightpanda]

I actually thought the game gave you enough background on things if you were patient enough to ask people. I read the Masked Empire after I finished the game, and I thought the game gave an adequate enough introduction to the characters at Halamshiral. Much better than Kai Leng in ME3.

 

Even Michel de Chevin was okay. Do you really need all the backstory to a character to use them? Loghain was a good villain, despite me not reading Stolen Throne. It could have been much, much worse. 

[MrMrPendragon]

I wasn't overwhelmed by any of it.

 

So far, the only things that feel like are leading somewhere are - Elves and Mythal. Dwarves and their battle with Dragons eons ago - implied, and the fact that there's 2 Old Gods left.

 

 

I'm almost sure that the writers haven't even completed writing the entire lore for this universe. They just wrote some c*ck tease codex entries to keep fans thinking, but in reality, the answers to the questions they made are probably still non-existent.

[Monica21]

It doesn't help that much of the critical lore seems to be written in pencil.

 

Do you mean scrolls and journals? Because that's kind of how learning history works. You just read a primary source! Yay!

 

 What really really bothered me is that you have to search each god damn codex page from a total of maybe 200 to read the last one you got

In DA:O you could just click on the side of the screen when a notice came up about a new codex collected

 

Yes. This. I can't believe the codexes aren't better integrated into the UI. Actually, they're not integrated into the UI at all. They're in the menu where you exit the game and/or change your settings. That's weird.

[Antergaton]

I'm almost sure that the writers haven't even completed writing the entire lore for this universe. They just wrote some c*ck tease codex entries to keep fans thinking, but in reality, the answers to the questions they made are probably still non-existent.

 

This is probably the most true out of anything related to the story or lore. I doubt 6 years ago when they made DA:O they even thought about doing anything told in DA:I, so much of the lore can be just speculated until next time it's proven wrong.

 

Infact, part of me thinks that sometimes they will even read these forums and change their mind on what they were going to do because too many people guess the correct outcome.

[Precursor Meta]

I couldn't get into it, because of the way the lore is presented in the Codex. It's sooo boring. Skyrim gave you books and notes.

Plus, that script isn't easy on the eyes when you look at it for to long.

[littlebrightpanda]

This is probably the most true out of anything related to the story or lore. I doubt 6 years ago when they made DA:O they even thought about doing anything told in DA:I, so much of the lore can be just speculated until next time it's proven wrong.

 

Infact, part of me thinks that sometimes they will even read these forums and change their mind on what they were going to do because too many people guess the correct outcome.

 

Actually, certain things have been forshadowed even in DA:O, like who Flemeth really is (take a look at the cover of her Grimoire in her house). I bet some things have only been vaguely outlined and are defined over time, like the Qun, but other things, like the core elven lore have been pretty set in stone. That doesn't mean that there cannot be new sources that change things around, but that is how history works. 

 

As long as you don't have a primary source for things, always treat your source with caution. Even primary sources are subjective. 

 

Additionally, people have been guessing the Flemeth connection since DA:O, so they didn't change it around. 

[Laughing_Man]

OP, just going to point out - Mass Effect at times felt more like fantasy than sci-fi. I really wish that ME was more science-y, or more accurately,

that they didn't feel the need to throw science out of the nearest airlock at every opportunity. I'm talking about technology, weapons, etc.

[DameMagpie]

With no DA background, the lore comes off with no hitches. Frankly I am a fan of the Silmarillion which is the entire first and second age notes and tales by Tolkien, just pieced together with flour and water. I think DA lore can be called replete, and if it fails in perfect sense it is no worse then to wonder how they got the rocks to fit together in Machu Picchu  

[Vox Draco]

I'm almost sure that the writers haven't even completed writing the entire lore for this universe. They just wrote some c*ck tease codex entries to keep fans thinking, but in reality, the answers to the questions they made are probably still non-existent.

 

And I am totally sure about this. I am no writer, but have you ever tried writing? anything? You start out with a nidea, and just as you go put the words together things change. Characters have to act in a certain you did not imagine before way because it otherwise wouldn't make sense and so on.

 

The basics are there in the lore, for sure. But al lthe little details? I think they evolve as they continue their stories. They keep parts of teh lore vague, so contradicting themselves is less likely. And they never run in the problems of getting themselves in a corner with no way out but retcon.

 

Prime example for that kind of stuff: Star Wars. No force in the world could convince me that JarJar Binks and Jango Fett (among other stuff) were part of any original concept for the prequels qhen George Lucas wrote the first scripts ages ago. He kept the basics like the clone wars and rise of the Empire, but added a lot of stuff that surely had no place in his first concepts (as some are merely fan-service)

 

Hmm..I just hope this example is not an indication of how DA will evolve ...