That always bother me that there isn't at least one mage in the DA universe that has martial training. Like an a apostate mage that is a mercenary trained to use a sword. I can understand gameplay wise why they don't do it but at least an npc.
A Tevinter tourney , so yesMages can enter tourneys? There are tourneys where the melee involves fireballs and electricity?
But then how come four exalted marches have failed on Tevinter?
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Powerful Seeker kills both their asses.
Seekers are nothing more than Templars without the lyrium addiction.
Seekers are nothing more than Templars without the lyrium addiction.
Not actually true. Cassandra says her abilities are different and that each seeker can have different additional abilities, She can't be mind controlled, but she can't nulify magic. Her individual ability it to make lyrium boil in the mage's blood, but all seeker's wouldn'tbe able to do that and it still doesn't nulify attacks. Whether one approves of templars or not, they can do things no one else can.
Not actually true. Cassandra says her abilities are different and that each seeker can have different additional abilities, She can't be mind controlled, but she can't nulify magic. Her individual ability it to make lyrium boil in the mage's blood, but all seeker's wouldn'tbe able to do that and it still doesn't nulify attacks. Whether one approves of templars or not, they can do things no one else can.
Her saying that did make me laugh when I unlocked her specialization, just Templar abilities lol.. Lazy design from Bioware.
Not actually true. Cassandra says her abilities are different and that each seeker can have different additional abilities, She can't be mind controlled, but she can't nulify magic. Her individual ability it to make lyrium boil in the mage's blood, but all seeker's wouldn'tbe able to do that and it still doesn't nulify attacks. Whether one approves of templars or not, they can do things no one else can.
What if mage hasn't taken lyrium? You know they're actually not forced to ingest it, until they're depleted of mana.
its theorized and metioned in game that mages have lyrium in their bloodWhat if mage hasn't taken lyrium? You know they're actually not forced to ingest it, until they're depleted of mana.
Some southern mages are scrubs who usually cower but the goods ones? They would be probably impossible for a lone Templar, or even two. Would definitely need a big enough group depending on the mage. Mages are resistant to magic themselves, Templars get this trait by ingesting Lyrium. Blood magic directly affects the target's blood hence its very harder to resist by anyone. Its easier to resist fire than your own blood boiling.
Spirit healers have a very big advantage due to their communication and drawing power from spirits. Both Anders and Wynne were very good mages before getting possessed so I think the strongest sort of mage would be a mage possessed by a spirit. They would have infinite connection to the fade and almost unlimited source of power due to the spirit.
I think this all blows down to which powerful individual is more skilled. Skill is different than power. You could hand someone whose never shot a gun before a .44 magnum revolver but the skilled shooter with the .22 is more likely to win.
this is just becoming another generic mage vs templar debate at this rate. Both sides have scrubs that are weak as hell and both sides have legendary figures that could take down a legion of the opposite sides scrubs. Lets not forget that Templars have archers too. Archers tend to be very good at ambushing individuals. Harding managed to take out both templars and mages herself.
Ugh! That is giving me flashbacks to DA2's Templar Hunters, those Templar "rogues" that would zero in the party mage and backstab them to death before you even realized the mage was under attack....
Lets not forget that Templars have archers too. Archers tend to be very good at ambushing individuals.
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Ugh! That is giving me flashbacks to DA2's Templar Hunters, those Templar "rogues" that would zero in the party mage and backstab them to death before you even realized the mage was under attack.
Haven't they just become red templar shadows.
Never did I know the horror of them til the Emerald Graves. I blink and suddenly my PC's down. I didn't even realize what happened at first.
I wonder how does a mage take on a templar solas says that the templars have not taken on a skilled mage in some time when your inquisitor is one while beating them up in the hinterlands. So it is possible to beat them but you have to be skilled. The problem is skilled in what way?
Knowing what templars are doing exactly - either by experience or by having a deep understanding of what they're doing with the magic and how they (templars) work. Or both.
It kinda reminds me of then Dark souls 2 pvp arena. No surprise, mages there usually win, annihilating anything with 2-3 spells but that's cause the average opponent hasn't seen many of them and knows only how to deal with a melee foe. Those who spend hours in pvp can kick anyones ass. It's about skills and nothing more. If you don't know how to deal with magic, you'll lose. If you don't know waht to do in a melee fight (if you're a mage) or when the opponent is in your face and you have only a staff in your disposal and nothin more you'll lose.
its theorized and metioned in game that mages have lyrium in their blood
Where? I didn't see anything suggesting that. So essentially Lyrium now became Element Zero?
The idiocy of those retcons never fails to amaze me.
I would think that Seekers ALSO have a Templar-like ability to fight magic, instead of suddenly claiming that mages has Lyrium in their blood.
idk if its a retcon but ehWhere? I didn't see anything suggesting that. So essentially Lyrium now became Element Zero?
The idiocy of those retcons never fails to amaze me.
I would think that Seekers ALSO have a Templar-like ability to fight magic, instead of suddenly claiming that mages has Lyrium in their blood.
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Not actually true. Cassandra says her abilities are different and that each seeker can have different additional abilities, She can't be mind controlled, but she can't nulify magic. Her individual ability it to make lyrium boil in the mage's blood, but all seeker's wouldn'tbe able to do that and it still doesn't nulify attacks. Whether one approves of templars or not, they can do things no one else can.
I clearly missed that then.
It would have to be mages. Flemeth eats up Templars and shits them out whilst making a game of it for Morrigan.
Flemeth is a special case. it would be like saying it would have to be Templars because Samson or Meredith would eat up most mages like breakfast. I remember having an easier time against Fiona than I did Knight Captain Denam. Both sides have Mary Sue characters and if you judge a side purely on who has the most Mary Sues than obviously mages would be the answer.
I personally think most single mages could probably beat most single templars, HOWEVER I also believe that the mages would have eventually lost that war due to templars as a whole being a better fighting force. One can talk about how mages could be more powerful if they learned martial techniques but the truth of the matter is that the majority of mages have never had an ounce of Close Quarters Combat training in their lives. I think that based on one of the war table missions that even Tevinter mages don't really think about it that much.
Because of Minrathous, They suceeded in couqering the rest of Tevinter just not the capital, its because it is extremely well fortified and has storage for enough food to last for years, It also has golems. The Orlesians had them besieged and were prepared to keep going and continue the war against Tevinter but then the fourth blight broke out.
But even to this day the Tevinter Magisters don't fully understand the Templars abilities, they don't have proper Templars in the north. Theres a war table mission called The Tevinter Resistance where one of the options is to send a squad of southern Templars to protect the Inquisitions Magister ally from her rivals in the Magisterium. When they attack her they are taken completely unawares by the Templars abilities, and the Templars proceed to kick their ass.
Powerful Mages ---> I still think that Solas or Flemeth can outpower any Templars... or Seeker...
I think mages are more powerful in general, but templars just outnumber them by a mile, they always come down in numbers to get even a single maleficar. So it all usually comes down to this:
In lore is suppose templar have passive magic's resist.
In templar's codex it's possible to read this:
"if the templars are prepared, the mage's magic is all but useless."
source :http://dragonage.wik...entry:_Templars
So i tihng in lore templar win vs mage if they 2 have same "experience".
After this capacity isn't in game (except 50% immunity in DA2). I think it's normal, it's to powerfull, after mage become totaly useless vs templar's ennemy. Not fun to play.
IIRC correctly it even took several templars to bring down Jowan before Loghain interfered in DA:O. Jowan was not even the most powerful mages.
The really powerful mages are like Flemeth or Solas. No templar can beat them.
EDIT: and also there are different kind of magic. Like Darkspawn magic which do not take energy from the fade right? So IIRC Templar's ability only works on "normal" fade magic & possibly blood magic (not really sure).
IIRC correctly it even took several templars to bring down Jowan before Loghain interfered in DA:O. Jowan was not even the most powerful mages.
The really powerful mages are like Flemeth or Solas. No templar can beat them.
EDIT: and also there are different kind of magic. Like Darkspawn magic which do not take energy from the fade right? So IIRC Templar's ability only works on "normal" fade magic & possibly blood magic (not really sure).
I may be wrong but isn't blood magic immune to the templars mana blocking stuff? I think that's why they had so much trouble with Jowan.
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