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They are regarded with alot of suspicion and little tolerance, kept on a short leash by The Empire. I believe the secret police keep tabs on them and if you happen to act up well, you'll be executed in Victory Square.
 

 

And it works? We should look into that.



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And create more enemies, more people like Anders? Really?

It was joke, kind of.

But still, our enemies wouldn't have hand with which to threaten us.



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It was joke, kind of.

But still, our enemies wouldn't have hand with which to threaten us.

 

I somehow doubt it would work since magic is a matter of will, focus and emotion. 



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It was joke, kind of.

But still, our enemies wouldn't have hand with which to threaten us.

 

Figured.

 

Romantically, there'd be some mage messiah who would overthrow such a tradition.

 

The story would turn Disney as befits DA's current tone. 

 

Yuck.


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And it works? We should look into that.

 

Under the competent leadership of His Imperial Awesomeness Emhyr var Emreis all implemented policies work.
Really this would be the best thing that could ever happened to Thedas:


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That doesn't change the fact that mages can be dangerous and they can turn into abominations.
 
This isn't a templar vs mage argument, and to be honest I think both groups and way to far up their own ass to realize that their hurting the common people of Thedas with their constant conflicts. Just look at Kirkwall or the Hinterlands to see my point.

but its warm lol

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Sorry but I dont understand you response, I was just poiting that there is a abomination in DA:I

And when you meet said abomination in DAI, guess what, he isn't an abomination. Don't forget you also target templars in that quest. Now where are abominations among the Inquisition mages?



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And when you meet said abomination in DAI, guess what, he isn't an abomination. Don't forget you also target templars in that quest. Now where are abominations among the Inquisition mages?

The ones Gaspard mentions if you ally with the mages?



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Some of the pro-mages should play The Witcher 2 and deal with Lodge of Sorceresses for a while.

Some of the pro-templars should play Skyrim and deal with the College of Winterhold for a while



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Some of the pro-templars should play Skyrim and deal with the College of Winterhold for a while

I have. I was trotting around the place with my badass 100 Heavy Armor, 100 One Handed, 100 two handed Nord and his lvl 1 Flare spell.

There was no one worthier of becoming Head of the College.

 

Seriously, Nords do not like mages and many even think the College botched something and caused the collapse of the city.



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The circles should exist in a reformed state for child mages, unproven mages, and those unlikely to be able to resist possession. More experienced mages should be able to leave if they wish, but with the templars knowing where they'll be to check in randomly.


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Some of the pro-templars should play Skyrim and deal with the College of Winterhold for a while

k i see your joke but that just adds to their zeal lol

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no



#464
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I have. I was trotting around the place with my badass 100 Heavy Armor, 100 One Handed, 100 two handed Nord and his lvl 1 Flare spell.

There was no one worthier of becoming Head of the College.

 

Seriously, Nords do not like mages and many even think the College botched something and caused the collapse of the city.

Take a look at Oblivion. Mages in Elder Scrolls are able to go to their own academies with no mobs. You don't see the mages being lynched if given their freedom do you?



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Some of the pro-templars should play Skyrim and deal with the College of Winterhold for a while

 

I have.

 

Still pro templar.

 

Also screw that elf dude.



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Just comparing universes is not a good idea... reeks of desperation and i say this a pro-magic fan

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What if we cut off the hands of mages so they can't do magic? Afterwards, they can go free.

Mind Blast

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Take a look at Oblivion. Mages in Elder Scrolls are able to go to their own academies with no mobs. You don't see the mages being lynched if given their freedom do you?

The problem is that TES doesn't have the abomination problem. Yes, there's still daedra worship and the dangers of that, and that did end up being what got the Mages' Guild disbanded between Oblivion and Skyrim, but that's not even close to the same order of danger. You pretty much can't destroy a city with Conjuration in TES unless you're really powerful, and at that it's almost impossible to do without wanting to. Connor proves that you don't need to meet either of those qualifications to do that in Dragon Age.

 

 

Just comparing universes is not a good idea... reeks of desperation and i say this a pro-magic fan

If the analogy didn't require ignoring a major difference, I'd have accepted the argument; as it is, that difference is the main reason I support the basic idea of the Circle system in DA where I don't think other magic systems require it.



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I have.

 

Still pro templar.

 

Also screw that elf dude.

And I've played the Witcher 2

 

Still pro mage



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Take a look at Oblivion. Mages in Elder Scrolls are able to go to their own academies with no mobs. You don't see the mages being lynched if given their freedom do you?

Since that's a different world, it doesn't really matter, lol. In this world a mage just blew up a chantry, mages voted to rebel immediately after making it look like they were ok with that and they're considered walking nukes. There's even more danger they they'll be ripped to pieces by a mob than there is that they'll turn abomination of to blood magic.

 

It's interesting to me that Vivienne is as bad an advertisement for free mages as Fiona. Her behavior at her party when we meet her is completely unacceptable. Given that I was unspoiled for companions going into my first playthrough, my warrior was expecting to have to kill her. Flemeth is more restrained.



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Take a look at Oblivion. Mages in Elder Scrolls are able to go to their own academies with no mobs. You don't see the mages being lynched if given their freedom do you?

Well, Elder Scrolls mages don't have to worry about demonic possession though, so it's different.

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Take a look at Oblivion. Mages in Elder Scrolls are able to go to their own academies with no mobs. You don't see the mages being lynched if given their freedom do you?

And the Emperor was once replaced by a mage. Maybe there should be stricter rules.

 

At any rate, the Elder Scrolls universes has actual gods regularly interacting with people for siths and giggles and changing entire races on whims. It's not exactly famous for its realistic portrayals.



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The problem is that TES doesn't have the abomination problems. Yes, there's still daedra worship and the dangers of that, and that did end up being what got the Mages' Guild disbanded between Oblivion and Skyrim, but that's not even close to the same order of danger. You pretty much can't destroy a city with Conjuration in TES unless you're really powerful, and at that it's almost impossible to do without wanting to. Connor proves that you don't need to meet either of those qualifications to do that in Dragon Age.

And what's funny is that if the circle system wasn't something to be feared, there would likely be less abominations. After all, if independent circles exist where parents don't have to fear losing their children to the chantry, they might be more open to sending them there and thus not keeping them which risks possession. I don't think the Connor situation would occur if Leliana's independent circles existed at the time.



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Well if this thread has achieved anything it's made me want to reinstall all my damn mods for Skyrim.

 

God that's like a day's worth of effort. Worth it but by god.

 

Screw you all.



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And the Emperor was once replaced by a mage. Maybe there should be stricter rules.

 

At any rate, the Elder Scrolls universes has actual gods regularly interacting with people for siths and giggles and changing entire races on whims. It's not exactly famous for its realistic portrayals.

Yet apparently it's okay for you to point out the Witcher universe to support your claims.