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Maybe it's not that simple. If they have resources to create extra romances it doesn't mean that those resources could have been used to create content to other romances or story or changing the ending. Besides I liked the ending.

Of course, but they didn't need  to spend them on romance content either. They don't have a specific budget for things like romance, as far as I know. Just generic things like word limits, dialogue budgets etc.  They could have created similar cutscenes that weren't directly romance related, but we should probably get back on topic.



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Of course, but they didn't need  to spend them on romance content either. They don't have a specific budget for things like romance, as far as I know. Just generic things like word limits, dialogue budgets etc.  They could have created similar cutscenes that weren't directly romance related, but we should probably get back on topic.

I think Solas romance added more meaning to the story than the few cutscenes there were. I think the story wouldn't have been that meaningful if he wouldn't have been LI and there would have been similar cutscenes but without romance content. But that's my opinion and you are right we should get back on topic.



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I didn't really give the title of this thread much thought, but it would be funny to be able to randomly romance every NPC, even if the dialogue was a scant "wanna bang and be mine forever?" "OK!" dynamic, giving us "unlimited" romance options.


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I didn't really give the title of this thread much thought, but it would be funny to be able to randomly romance every NPC, even if the dialogue was a scant "wanna bang and be mine forever?" "OK!" dynamic, giving us "unlimited" romance options.

 

perish the thought,  burn it with fire (lots of it)

 

(also didn't Witcher had this to an extend? or so I hear)



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Heck I don't want that either, but still, it would be amusing, since it's sort of a mockery of the concept of romance in general.



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I didn't really give the title of this thread much thought, but it would be funny to be able to randomly romance every NPC, even if the dialogue was a scant "wanna bang and be mine forever?" "OK!" dynamic, giving us "unlimited" romance options.

 

Couldn't think of anything worse than that. I want more depth not shallow empty contentless romances.



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Empty contentless romances... Miss Chambers comes to mind.

 

All you get is her dancing around in your room in her undies. Yeah... nah.



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Couldn't think of anything worse than that. I want more depth not shallow empty contentless romances.

Oh, it can get worse. Random NPC groupies who just can't get enough of the protagonist just showing up at your door. All the time.



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(also didn't Witcher had this to an extend? or so I hear)

 

Not really.  I found the Witcher to be a bit over the top with the number of ladies who Geralt can get with, but in reality it's not quite as bad as all that.  In TW2, there are 5 ladies who you can sleep with that are named PCs.  Then there is a gaggle of prostitutes.  So the number is not really that far off of a Bioware game (ME 3 had six options for straight male Sheps and DA: O/DA 2 had brothels), but the fact that Geralt can get with all of them in a single playthrough (which can't happen in any Bioware game) is the big difference.



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Heck I don't want that either, but still, it would be amusing, since it's sort of a mockery of the concept of romance in general.

 

yes I got that, I was being playful, it's a bit difficult to have deadpan humor in writing, though.

 

 

Oh, it can get worse. Random NPC groupies who just can't get enough of the protagonist just showing up at your door. All the time.

Alistair's  "yeeees?" comes to mind.

 

 

On more serious note, romances seems to be the only option where you get to really explore a character. I really could live without the table thing with Cullen (so cheesy) but then you see him having nightmares and it kind of fleshes the character more.  It shouldn't be that way, if anything there should be at least some more platonic relationships too.



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Lets face it, Bioware has been doing a good job so far compared generally with the others and while sure it does stumble as it goes it does get better at doing them over time. 



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Not really.  I found the Witcher to be a bit over the top with the number of ladies who Geralt can get with, but in reality it's not quite as bad as all that.  In TW2, there are 5 ladies who you can sleep with that are named PCs.  Then there is a gaggle of prostitutes.  So the number is not really that far off of a Bioware game (ME 3 had six options for straight male Sheps and DA: O/DA 2 had brothels), but the fact that Geralt can get with all of them in a single playthrough (which can't happen in any Bioware game) is the big difference.

 

The thing is that from what I hear about it, it seems to be exactly how you word it, that it's some sort of mini game where you get to have some 3d porn as a reward.  That's why I asked. Is it?

 

I have some issues with Witcher franchise and this, if true, just adds to it.



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Let me preface this with saying that I just started my Lavellan PT so I can't comment on it. My only non-human PT so far was my first devout character a qunari warrior of all things. I really enjoyed it. If the game truly let's me RP an atheist Dalish elf - a first who rejects the idea that elven gods were true gods but who so painfully wants to save his people - I think it will honestly be my favourite PT.

 

I'm not certain this has anything to do with what I was saying.

 

I don't disagree with the part of your post saying that a non-human non-Andrastian LI would be good. I'm all for one of more LIs in the vein of Morrigan in particular.

But there's a difference between that an your true desire - having a female elf LI who shares your particular view of elvenhood.

 

No, you claimed that my argument was simply for an elven love interest interest, and I corrected you in pointing out that the love interests (and the companions in general) could move away from the Andrastian human centric tone that the series has taken so far to explore other cultures - as I said earlier, a Tal-Vashoth woman could have allowed us insight into someone who followed the Qun and broke away, a dwarf from Kal-Sharok could have provided a wealth of insight into the mysterious Great Thaig and shown us another side to the dwarves, and I even cited the example of a viddathari elf who could provide a positive side to the Qun for a non-qunari.

 

My example about a pro-Dalish character was in contrast to how no one among the current crop of advisers, companions, or minor characters is pro-Dalish, so it feels incredibly unbalanced. It was also one example among many.

 

You seem to be throwing a little hissy fit because I proved you were wrong. Don't be so petulant. Next time, simply accept you're wrong, and don't pretend you have insight into the "true desire" of someone you were incorrect about.

 

As to Cassandra, I only commented on her interaction with Solas. That's not trying to convert him.

 

Cassandra told Solas that he should follow the Maker, which is precisely what I said before. I have little interest in arguing with her die-hard fans who want to argue the semantics surrounding this.

 

Absolutely not. She barely has a character. She's 60% quips.

 

Harding is a minor character. You can't seriously expect her to have the same depth of character development as the others. She's also skilled, resourceful, and shows empathy for the people in danger. As I said before, I think Harding could be a great character to flesh out and include as a companion in the next Dragon Age game.



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I find it funny that there are people on here calling us selfish for wanting more options when i'll bet that these are the exact people who complained about ME3 shafting females.


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The thing is that from what I hear about it, it seems to be exactly how you word it, that it's some sort of mini game where you get to have some 3d porn as a reward.  That's why I asked. Is it?

 

I have some issues with Witcher franchise and this, if true, just adds to it.

 

Yeah, in the first game, there's a really tacky "sex up all of the ladies that you meet and they'll give you a sexy porn card collectible" mini-"game" feature with something like 15 female characters that you can sleep with and get nudie pics of.  I think that this feature is what (rightfully) gave the series a bad reputation with how they handled female characters.


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#241
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My Dalish was intrigued by the question. The Dalish believe in multiple gods, none of whom are thought to be the creators of the world. Cassandra didn't suggest that Lavellan abandon false belief for true. She only asked whether there wasn't room for one more--which is hardly the same as telling my character that she "should follow the Maker."

 

If Cassandra is asking if there's room for one more god in the pantheon you follow (your religion), then she is most certainly saying that Lavellan should follow the Maker.


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I do wish my Lavellan could have countered Cassandra's question by asking her if there was any room among her one god for nine more.

 

Missed opportunity.


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I do wish my Lavellan could have countered Cassandra's question by asking her if there was any room among her one god for nine more.

 

Missed opportunity.

 

Yeah i disappointed there wasn't the opportunity to be able to counter/follow up on that.


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...But are the Ladies gamers doing the same thing ? (create a male character to romance a male ? ) - And if they do it, will they admit it ?  :P 

 

Usually man aren't disturbed by viewing (in action) gay woman, i mean Lady with Lady :P ...

but we are disturbed by viewing (in action) Male with Male... Hum  :blink:  :unsure:

 

I think a lot of women do this.  I started in DA:2 playing males because I hated the female voice actress's voice so much, I couldn't play otherwise.  But, then, I started playing males to romance males - it was liberating, and fun...and do so now in other games, too (as well as add mods to romance Alistair and males in my BG games...).

 

'Course, I am excited about the female va in DA:I, but I do plan to romance Iron Bull and Dorion as males.   :D



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Well...I always thought herosexual is the only logical way for companion romances in a game, but given that that would be too similar to DA2's ''everyone's bi'' and that apparently wasn't well-received by some people...

 

The solution is simple....bioware already lets us participate in the writing of the story we play, we choose the inquisitors background, their choices through the game, we even choose some parts of the companions' story, either indirectly through quizzie's actions, or directly : we choose who participated in which battles, what abilities  they used, etc, etc...

 

So, for the following games...

 

Let us, in pc character creation also predetermine the companions' sexuality and romance_availability...

 

Everyone wins, even the people who wouldn't want the flirt options to appear...

 

....

 

*hides in nuclear bunker, waiting the upcoming reactions*


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#246
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 your gender has  dominated gaming.

 

Its called fairness. And if you don't like your choices thats  a personal flaw on you. 

he just pointed out how it wasn't fair though? 

 

Oh you gotta be kidding me. Women were SHAFTED in ME3.  So please try harder.

No you guys had Garrus..I would say we  were shafted in ME3 because we couldn't romance him.



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I find it funny that there are people on here calling us selfish for wanting more options when i'll bet that these are the exact people who complained about ME3 shafting females.

 

There is difference of group that always has more options than others get 3 times more options than group who usually gets shafted have double more options that are restricted on top of that. And I wonder why these who complain about straight male options tend to forgot that lesbian and gay PC has as many options as them.



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You haven't been reading my posts then. I acknowledged that Gay options are the same number as straight options. that's the issue. everyone should have 3. instead Straight females have 4 while everyone else gets 2.



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Well...I always thought herosexual is the only logical way for companion romances in a game, but given that that would be too similar to DA2's ''everyone's bi'' and that apparently wasn't well-received by some people...

 

The solution is simple....bioware already lets us participate in the writing of the story we play, we choose the inquisitors background, their choices through the game, we even choose some parts of the companions' story, either indirectly through quizzie's actions, or directly : we choose who participated in which battles, what abilities  they used, etc, etc...

 

So, for the following games...

 

Let us, in pc character creation also predetermine the companions' sexuality and romance_availability...

 

Everyone wins, even the people who wouldn't want the flirt options to appear...

 

....

 

*hides in nuclear bunker, waiting the upcoming reactions*

 

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#250
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You haven't been reading my posts then. I acknowledged that Gay options are the same number as straight options. that's the issue. everyone should have 3. instead Straight females have 4 while everyone else gets 2.

 

I said that more generally since you refered to "us" which means would mean all complainers of the same issue ^^