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[DarkKnightHolmes]

DAO gave men only 1 exclusive romance. DA2 gave men 0 exclusive romance. So how are we limited now of all time???

[WildOrchid]

Seeing so many threads like these about straight men, shows how much they've been pandered to and now that they aren't anymore, they act exactly like a kid who has been denied sweets and starts crying for dear life.

 

Edit: "Some".

Just in case.

[Vita Brevis]

Mind you, not even "denied", they're crying because they don't have all the sweets and have to "share".

[LobselVith8]

Have you noticed that as a male inquisitor the romance options are limited, only 2 characters are male exclusive Dorian and Cassandra, the other two Iron Bull and Josephine can be romanced by the either sex.

And female inquisitors have more choice, Blackwall, Cullen, Solas, Sera are exclusive. 

 

I don't mind that there were two options for a straight male Inquisitor, although I do wish there was some variety from Andrastian human. Maybe a female Tal-Vashoth who could give us some insight into having been part of the Qun, and why she left; a female Dwarf who might have been from one of the last remaining Great Thaigs, Kal-Sharok; perhaps an elf, maybe a viddathari who had their life changed in a positive way by the Qun, or perhaps one of the Dalish who could offer a pro-Dalish perspective in contrast to the plethora of anti-Dalish perspectives.

 

More diversity among our limited choices would be greatly appreciated. Frankly, I think it's been far too long for a dwarven romance option.

[raging_monkey]

Seeing so many threads like these about straight men, shows how much they've been pandered to and now that they aren't anymore, they act exactly like a kid who has been denied sweets and starts crying for dear life.
 
Edit: "Some".
Just in case.

just goes to show the bsn is going nutz

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Seeing so many threads like these about straight men, shows how much they've been pandered to and now that they aren't anymore, they act exactly like a kid who has been denied sweets and starts crying for dear life.

 

Edit: "Some".

Just in case.

 

Mind you, not even "denied", they're crying because they don't have all the sweets and have to "share".

 

There will be some who do it, that is inevitable. There would be women doing it if the math was reversed. That is also inevitable. History (especially on BSN) proves this.

 

The issue is with people's expectations regarding romances. It has nothing to do with whether someone is male or straight.

[Vita Brevis]

 There would be women doing it if the math was reversed

Well they weren't doing it in Mass effect and DA threads, so no, for now it is what it is.

[Lady Nuggins]

DAO gave men only 1 exclusive romance. DA2 gave men 0 exclusive romance. So how are we limited now of all time???

 

So because a romance isn't "exclusive" to your gender it isn't special enough?  Having 4 options in DA2 was bad because women might have gotten their cooties all over them?

[WildOrchid]

There will be some who do it, that is inevitable. There would be women doing it if the math was reversed. That is also inevitable. History (especially on BSN) proves this.

 

The issue is with people's expectations regarding romances. It has nothing to do with whether someone is male or straight.

 

Sadly, it's more the men who will complain about limited (?) romances, even though they always have been pandered to, that was my point. Mass Effect sucked in terms of romance, yet straight men had it better there than straight/gay women/gay men.

 

Plus i don't see limited romances? The people who have the right to ask about romances should be the gay people because historically in games we've always been forgotten. Straight men were the main attention, hence why i always laugh at stupid threads like these.

[Killdren88]

Oh for the day 'romances' are removed from these games altogether *crosses fingers*!

Right? It gets so annoying seeing the boards overloaded with romance threads.

[Panda]

 

Yes. It has been noticed.

[Celtic Latino]

And yet its forgotten that straight female qunari/dwarf quizzies as gay and lesbian quizzies also only get 2. Yet I don't see 100000+ posts from them/myself (in the case of s/s men) in fury. Curious why that is.

[o Ventus]

Have you noticed that as a male inquisitor the romance options are limited, only 2 characters are male exclusive Dorian and Cassandra, the other two Iron Bull and Josephine can be romanced by the either sex.

And female inquisitors have more choice, Blackwall, Cullen, Solas, Sera are exclusive. 

2 options for hetero males

2 options for hetero females

2 options for samesex males

2 options for samesex females

 

It's literally the same as both DAO and DA2.

[Panda]

And yet its forgotten that straight female qunari/dwarf quizzies as gay and lesbian quizzies also only get 2. Yet I don't see 100000+ posts from them/myself (in the case of s/s men) in fury. Curious why that is.

 

Well there has been lot of sad people but we simply got over it. I say we cause I'm one that was very sad I couldn't romance Cullen with mage Adaar.

[Basement Cat]

Well there has been lot of sad people but we simply got over it. I say we cause I'm one that was very sad I couldn't romance Cullen with mage Adaar.

Similar for those who wanted to romance Cassandra as a woman. Oh, the broken hearts.

[dragonflight288]

Straight male here, not bothered at all. 

 

Dealt with it. 

 

Good day. 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Well they weren't doing it in Mass effect and DA threads, so no, for now it is what it is.

 

 

That's hilarious.

 

 

Sadly, it's more the men who will complain about limited (?) romances, even though they always have been pandered to, that was my point. Mass Effect sucked in terms of romance, yet straight men had it better there than straight/gay women/gay men.

 

I don't believe that's true at all, except perhaps as a side effect of demographics regarding the audience.

 

Confirmation bias often clouds our perception of human nature. Straight males are no better or worse people than anyone else.

 

And as I have said many times before, people only ever refer to it as "pandering" when it is something that they don't like. When it is something that they like, it suddenly isn't "pandering" anymore.

[DWA824]

The problem isn't so much that Straight males don't get many options, its that Straight Females get more than everyone else.

 

What should have been done is scrape Solais's romance(Sorry to fans of it but it really wasn't necessary) make Scout Harding Romancable and have both her and Cullen be Bi. That way everyone gets 3 diverse options and its all fair.

 

Before someone says "Cullen was Straight in the first two games" yeah? so was Kaidan but that didn't stop Bioware from Making him Bi in Mass Effect 3.

 

(As a sidenote, I would be complaining if Straight Women got the Shaft instead)

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

The problem isn't so much that Straight males don't get many options, its that Straight Females get more than everyone else.

 

You have failed to explain how that is even a problem. What difference does it make to the storytelling, or the quality of the game?

 

What should have been done is scrape Solais's romance(Sorry to fans of it but it really wasn't necessary) make Scout Harding Romancable and have both her and Cullen be Bi. That way everyone gets 3 diverse options and its all fair.

 

So the writers should eject what they wrote to resolve an irrelevant mathematical equation? Again, how does that improve the quality of the game?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I just remembered that I promised myself that I would stop providing serious responses to people whining about not getting the romances that they want. I have only myself to blame, really.

 

 

I will now watch the Muppets to cleanse my brain, and leave this thread to others to argue over.

[DWA824]

I said that's hat should have been done. It's too late now.

 

I'm just saying my opinion. I've lost all hope that the BSN will understand why Male Fans are disappointed.

[LobselVith8]

The problem isn't so much that Straight males don't get many options, its that Straight Females get more than everyone else.

 

What should have been done is scrape Solais's romance(Sorry to fans of it but it really wasn't necessary) make Scout Harding Romancable and have both her and Cullen be Bi. That way everyone gets 3 diverse options and its all fair.

 

I think that the romance had a significant impact on the people who enjoyed it, and it helped shape their immersion in the story. I think they would respectfully disagree with your assertion that it was unnecessary. I wish that the two options available were more diverse than what we had gotten, but I wouldn't want the players who romanced Solas to miss out simply to accommodate me.

 

Before someone says "Cullen was Straight in the first two games" yeah? so was Kaidan but that didn't stop Bioware from Making him Bi in Mass Effect 3.

 

(As a sidenote, I would be complaining if Straight Women got the Shaft instead)

 

I believe DanaDuchy found some code that suggests Solas and Cullen were considered as bisexual options (since there are romance lines for a male Inquisitor found in the data files), but that it was scrapped for one reason or another (perhaps time constraints).

[katamuro]

Ok first of all calm down you people. Then when you have come off your high horse and actually read what I wrote, you would notice I did not complain, I simply stated the fact. And yes it might have been a popular topic a while ago but I avoided all discussion of DAI or any information before playing it. So I did not know it has been discussed. 

Also I completed Josephine as the first playthrough and I was not very satisfied so I thought maybe the others are done similarly.

[Laurelinde]

Funny how it's bullying for any minority groups to ask for representation in games, because 'artists should tell the story they want to tell, and not worry about quotas or political correctness.'  But then when developers decide to tell a story that might focus on someone other than the 'default'/majority groups, or, Maker forbid, minority groups get more of something than the majority group, it's awful, and they should bear in mind who their biggest funders are, and only ever tell those stories, their own artistic integrity be damned.  

 

Yep, funny.

 

(Please note, my comments pertain to some of the other 'we need more straight female LIs!' threads as well as this one.)

[Panda]

The problem isn't so much that Straight males don't get many options, its that Straight Females get more than everyone else.

 

What should have been done is scrape Solais's romance(Sorry to fans of it but it really wasn't necessary) make Scout Harding Romancable and have both her and Cullen be Bi. That way everyone gets 3 diverse options and its all fair.

 

Before someone says "Cullen was Straight in the first two games" yeah? so was Kaidan but that didn't stop Bioware from Making him Bi in Mass Effect 3.

 

(As a sidenote, I would be complaining if Straight Women got the Shaft instead)

 

I'm all for equal options in terms of genders, sexualities and  races all but Bioware giving this time 2 more romances for straight female characters that are both race gated shouldn't be big deal especially considering that in Mass Effect tables were heavily turned in favor of straight male characters. So it's not like some big wrongness have happened with DAI ^^;

 

Well it seems like Iron Bull was planned being race-gated and that would have meant equal options in terms of gender but unequal in terms of race (only one option for some races). Then Solas and Cullen were added and Cullen was in some part planned being bisexual (some romance dialogues with Cullen and male Inquisitor were found by players) but was scraped.

 

Hmm so I'm not against your proposition, but things are how they are and can't be changed anymore and so I don't think straight female characters getting two resctricted options more is that big of problem that some might it sound like : )