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[daveliam]

Different tastes? Not everyone digs the same things.

 

Of course, but why is Olivia Wilde considered 'conventionally pretty', but not Cassandra?  That's the point.

 

 

Wide face.  Square jaw.

[LOLandStuff]

Also, exactly about the Olivia Wilde point (and Angelina Jolie).

 

Both look like they're stacking food to me. I find nothing attractive. They're just...too round...like they have food in there.

But I do find Cassandra gorgeous.

[Jaison1986]

Of course, but why is Olivia Wilde considered 'conventionally pretty', but not Cassandra?  That's the point.

 

 

Wide face.  Square jaw.

 

Well, I can't speak for others, but I for one don't find that kind of face structure very attractive.

[Colonelkillabee]

Of course, but why is Olivia Wilde considered 'conventionally pretty', but not Cassandra?  That's the point.

 

 

 

Wide face.  Square jaw.

Eh, Cass honestly looks prettier than her to me.

[Vita Brevis]

I dunno, I find her current hairdo to suit her better, it's softer, fits her personality.

I dunno at this point. I remember I disliked her current one at first because the old one grew on me. But now it's the other way around. 

[LOLandStuff]

I'm indifferent now to Josephine's look and enjoy her character.

But when I saw her final design I felt like punching her face. She sort of reminded me of a bully from my childhood and who's hair I pulled. It felt good.

[Br3admax]

Eh, Cass honestly looks prettier than her to me.

Yeeeeaaah. 

[Colonelkillabee]

Yeeeeaaah. 

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or a strong agreement.

[Ryzaki]

Likewhat? Looks fine to me. I've just never seen anyone say otherwise. I mean he has a hole in his face, but besides that.

You might not, but I've seen a lot of women here speak otherwise, with some men here asking for the facial hair itself. Not me, hate facial hair, but I figure if a lot of dudes want it, it must look good to somebody.

Solas, meh. I've never seen anyone speak negatively on his appearance. As for Dorian, that's fair I guess. I wasn't speaking on that though, so I was just clarifying.

Mobile!!!
Yeah plenty of females have issues with bull and black walls appearance. Solas is more of a meh for me but not on the ugh when it comes to looks.



Blackwall sitting in a corner and crying isn't manly.

[Bethgael]

You know some studies saying you should only believe in a statistic that you have faked yourself...?

As far as I can tell, every woman (an man) in my family (except my mother who isn't playing at all but well, she's in her eighties) don't play candy crush or apps, we play RPGs or shooters. And we all love to discuss about strategies and content and games in general -  maybe we all are too weird for normal studies... 

 

Indeed. Female. Gamer since the 80s. HATE FB games. Ex husband never plays any... except the occasional console garbage. I did, however, introduce 5 now teen-to-YA sons to gaming (one is a FB gamer as well as others), so I apologise for skewing the figures.

 

Damned fertile womb thing. Stupid females. /eyeroll

[Br3admax]

 

Likewhat? Looks fine to me. I've just never seen anyone say otherwise. I mean he has a hole in his face, but besides that.

You might not, but I've seen a lot of women here speak otherwise, with some men here asking for the facial hair itself. Not me, hate facial hair, but I figure if a lot of dudes want it, it must look good to somebody.

Solas, meh. I've never seen anyone speak negatively on his appearance. As for Dorian, that's fair I guess. I wasn't speaking on that though, so I was just clarifying.

Mobile!!!
Yeah plenty of females have issues with bull and black walls appearance. Solas is more of a meh for me but not on the ugh when it comes to looks.



Blackwall sitting in a corner and crying isn't manly.

 

Fair enough. I don't care personally, as I'm fine with the romances already in game. i'm just saying, cast a large enough net, and you'll catch something. 

 

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or a strong agreement.

Cassandra's prettier. 

[Colonelkillabee]

Cassandra's prettier. 

Ah k, good Yea, I don't know why, but the big JAWS thing looks a lot more noticable on that chick. It suits Cassandra a lot more. Actually, Cass' jaw isn't that big tho.

[Ryzaki]

Fair enough. I don't care personally, as I'm fine with the romances already in game. i'm just saying, cast a large enough net, and you'll catch something.


Cassandra's prettier.

Oh I love bull and his romance. But typically attractive he is not.

I could put up with more of blackwall's crap if he was more typically attractive.

And Solas gets most of his appeal ( for me anyway) by being a GOD.

[AresKeith]

Oh I love bull and his romance. But typically attractive he is not.

I could put up with more of blackwall's crap if he was more typically attractive.

And Solas gets most of his appeal ( for me anyway) by being a GOD.

 

He's just a big fat phony

 

 

 

and Blackwall too

[Br3admax]

I could put up with more of blackwall's crap if he was more typically attractive.

I don't know. How far can prerelease dad status really carry you? 

[crimzontearz]

Only if you download the Puppy Love Mod.

ugh


Reminds me of a certain image of morrigan lelliana and dog that circulated a while back

[Ryzaki]

I don't know. How far can prerelease dad status really carry you?

Ugh why remind me of that

[Maverick827]

This thread moves fast.

 

So it seemed most people agreed that simply finding Cassandra, Josephine, Geralt, etc. unattractive wasn't an issue.  People can obviously have their preferences.  This is good, because I really didn't want to have to argue that not finding someone attractive isn't discriminatory again.

 

My question now is, why is it wrong for people to ask or demand* that their preferences as a consumer be taken more into account by the provider of a good or service?  I'm not saying that other people or even said provider need to take the this person seriously.  I just don't understand what it so worthy of scorn to see this topic spread out in multiple threads across multiple sub-forums, to have these people derided, and to have their opinions be used as spring boards to discuss social topics.

 

*I don't believe "demanding" something is really negative in the context of a consumer/provider relationship.  The only reason why "being demanding" has a negative connotation is that it implies a sense of entitlement which, in most circumstances, is unwarranted.  However, in this particular circumstance, a consumer is entitled to whatever he or she believes his or her time and money is worth.  The provider obviously doesn't have to meet these criteria if they are unwilling or unable to, but I don't believe it reflects negatively on the consumer to have them in the first place.

[NaclynE]

I think someone ommited Vivianne. Lol.

 

Vivianne seems to be male only.

[daveliam]

This thread moves fast.

 

So it seemed most people agreed that simply finding Cassandra, Josephine, Geralt, etc. unattractive wasn't an issue.  People can obviously have their preferences.  This is good, because I really didn't want to have to argue that not finding someone attractive isn't discriminatory again.

 

My question now is, why is it wrong for people to ask or demand* that their preferences as a consumer be taken more into account by the provider of a good or service?  I'm not saying that other people or even said provider need to take the this person seriously.  I just don't understand what it so worthy of scorn to see this topic spread out in multiple threads across multiple sub-forums, to have these people derided, and to have their opinions be used as spring boards to discuss social topics.

 

*I don't believe "demanding" something is really negative in the context of a consumer/provider relationship.  The only reason why "being demanding" has a negative connotation is that it implies a sense of entitlement which, in most circumstances, is unwarranted.  However, in this particular circumstance, a consumer is entitled to whatever he or she believes his or her time and money is worth.  The provider obviously doesn't have to meet these criteria if they are unwilling or unable to, but I don't believe it reflects negatively on the consumer to have them in the first place.

 

I disagree.  You are not entitled to anything.  You can request content.  You can vote with your wallet by supporting or choosing not to support products.  But you are not entitled to getting specific content in your game.  If you believe you are entitled to getting a love interest in the game that suits your particular preferences, then you should probably wait until the love interests have been announced before deciding to buy the game.  In the case of DA: I, the love interests were announced a few months prior to release.  So if you looked at Cassandra and Josephine and decided that they were unattractive yet still chose to buy the game, I'm not sure what the issue is.  You knew what you were buying. 

[Colonelkillabee]

so I apologise for skewing the figures.

Damned fertile womb thing. Stupid females. /eyeroll

Oh my lord, you people really read into things I say waaay too much. I never expressed any sort of dislike towards female gamers or their numbers in the population. Only said that the studies saying they make almost half was bs.

[LOLandStuff]

That's like going to buy a new car and throwing a hissy fit because the car you want doesn't come in purple with pink polka dots.

 

"I demand a purple car with pink polka dots. It is my right as buyer and I've got money."

[Hanako Ikezawa]

My comment was to the conversation in general.

 

Asexuality has to do with an actual attraction to a sex (or lack thereof actually) so no, it is more than a preference.

Ah, okay. Didn't know if it was or to me specifically so felt I should answer just in case. 

 

Okay. Well imagine an asexual who is able to develop a sexual attraction to someone later after they form a strong connection to the person. That is close to what I am talking about. There is no preference involved. 

[NaclynE]

I guess I missed something? I thought we were talking about the limited romance options for M Inquisitor. Lol?

 

What happened to this topic? Can we get back on topic please? Also stop the sexcism too please.

[Maverick827]

I disagree.  You are not entitled to anything.  You can request content.  You can vote with your wallet by supporting or choosing not to support products.  But you are not entitled to getting specific content in your game.  If you believe you are entitled to getting a love interest in the game that suits your particular preferences, then you should probably wait until the love interests have been announced before deciding to buy the game.  In the case of DA: I, the love interests were announced a few months prior to release.  So if you looked at Cassandra and Josephine and decided that they were unattractive yet still chose to buy the game, I'm not sure what the issue is.  You knew what you were buying. 

 

I think we're saying the same thing with different words, "vote with your wallet," etc.

 

Perhaps "entitled" is the hang-up word, but that's the word many people here use to argue against those who are asking for/demanding more "conventionally attractive" female love interests, with the subtext of these arguments being "I think you are wrong for believing that XYZ should be provided to you."  I just don't agree that a consumer can be "wrong" when choosing to spend their money and, by extension, informing a provider of what it would take to earn their money.