Yes, that is indeed how the consumer/provider relationship exists. I congratulate you if you've never been disappointed with a product and feel sorry for you if you have, but did nothing about it.
That's because I'm not throwing my money left and right already knowing what I'm buying just to have something to complain about.
Aquabuffuality.Whatever the word for bestiality enthusiasts is.You know, besides ****** psychos.Furry's already taken, so... Furry chaser?
I'm only attracted to water buffalos.
So what does that make me?
Wut'r buffalos?
I'm only attracted to water buffalos.
So what does that make me?
Aquabuffasexual, clearly.
Wut'r buffalos?
Aquabuffasexual, clearly.
I would caution you against the "it is selfish to ask them to alter their art" argument, because that's exactly what women, minorities, the LGBT community, etc. are doing when they ask for more inclusion.
No, it's not.
Asking for a love interest to suit your personal tastes is not the same thing as asking for representation in a game.
No, it's not.
Asking for a love interest to suit your personal tastes is not the same thing as asking for representation in a game.
Both are asking an artist to do something he or she might not have been planning to do otherwise.
No, it's not.
Asking for a love interest to suit your personal tastes is not the same thing as asking for representation in a game.
Yea it pretty much is. Both are asking something of someone that has no obligation to anyone to do so.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be really interested to see this hypothetical asexual love interest they're apparently trying to make work.
But I'm not going to pretend like the player base bringing it up a lot and asking for it now isn't perhaps making the writers do something they otherwise wouldn't do, regardless of how amiable they are to the idea.
Both are asking an artist to do something he or she might not have been planning to do otherwise.
There is a world of difference between asking an artist to make you a romantic simulation specific to your own tastes, and asking a group of artists not to exclude characters on the basis that they aren't straight, or white, or male.
If you can't see the difference, no amount of explanation is going to change that.
There is a world of difference between asking an artist to make you a romantic simulation specific to your own tastes, and asking a group of artists not to exclude characters on the basis that they aren't straight, or white, or male.
If you can't see the difference, no amount of explanation is going to change that.
So you can't defend your assertion?
So you can't defend your assertion?
If you can't see the difference, no amount of explanation is going to change that.
Sadly evolution theory and fertility thingies makes me ignore this hunk and go towards feminine guys who are better providers : /
Please, for the love of the Nine, stop with the "fertility" arguments. Those are nonsense, and have been disproved in many places.
So, again, you are incapable of defending your assertion. Hiding behind some faux moral high ground is not an argument.
Also, I don't disagree that those two things are different. I just don't agree that they don't both meet the criteria of the initial statement.
Oh my lord, you people really read into things I say waaay too much. I never expressed any sort of dislike towards female gamers or their numbers in the population. Only said that the studies saying they make almost half was bs.
Oops. Sorry. You don't know me well enough to know a joke when I say it (I am joking in that this female gamer having 5 gamer sons skewed the figures towards the menz. I am not joking when I say I have 5 sons or have been gaming since then). I do apologise. Silly text-based medium. 
Imagine a dry Australian voice from someone who's had this debate so many times over the past 20-odd years (and you're partly correct--but only partly), that I'm now post-amused by it. 
Like post-modern but laughing.
I shall use more emoticons in future. And waggle my arse more when I speak. 
ETA: WTB smexy dorf romance. That is all. 
Oops. Sorry. You don't know me well enough to know a joke when I say it (I am joking in that this female gamer having 5 gamer sons skewed the figures towards the menz. I am not joking when I say I have 5 sons or have been gaming since then). I do apologise. Silly text-based medium.
Imagine a dry Australian voice from someone who's had this debate so many times over the past 20-odd years I'm now post-amused by it.
I shall use more emoticons in future. And waggle my arse more when I speak.
Ah my bad, lol. People miss my jokes sometimes too 
Internet.
I assumed it was addressed to me due to the previous post it was in response to.
Lol then they should just say that. Like that "Cis" gendered bullshit. Lol you mean normal.
I think the problem that created cis- is the idea that if something isn't "normal," it's bad.
I'm bi. That is NOT normal. We are a small subset of the population. There's no value judgment there; it's just not what is normal. I am also a biological male who IDs as male. That's normal. My friend who is biologically male but IDs as female? She is not normal, and would be the first to admit it. There's nothing wrong with her, but she does not fit the norm .
But when people hear "abnormal," the connotation of "wrong" is there, and they feel they need to label everything else so that nothing is regarded as "normal." It's linguistic brinksmanship, IMO, but I understand where the need comes from.
Again, just my opinion, no guarantee of accuracy or truth is offered.
I think the problem that created cis- is the idea that if something isn't "normal," it's bad.
I'm bi. That is NOT normal. We are a small subset of the population. There's no value judgment there; it's just not what is normal. I am also a biological male who IDs as male. That's normal. My friend who is biologically male but IDs as female? She is not normal, and would be the first to admit it. There's nothing wrong with her, but she does not fit the norm .
But when people hear "abnormal," the connotation of "wrong" is there, and they feel they need to label everything else so that nothing is regarded as "normal." It's linguistic brinksmanship, IMO, but I understand where the need comes from.
Again, just my opinion, no guarantee of accuracy or truth is offered.
You're right, it's not normal. But, I think accepting that it's not and accepting that it's still okay... that's true progress if you ask me. That it's okay to be abnormal, especially when you obviously can't help it, and neither do you need to.
We don't need to make all these silly terms to ignore the truth. That just makes people easier to ignore, instead of addressing them and being forced to acknowledge them as people, all the same.
There is a world of difference between asking an artist to make you a romantic simulation specific to your own tastes, and asking a group of artists not to exclude characters on the basis that they aren't straight, or white, or male.
If you can't see the difference, no amount of explanation is going to change that.
If you actually think any game developer is excluding anyone because they aren't straight or white or male, then you have a distorted perception of reality, tbh.
Please, for the love of the Nine, stop with the "fertility" arguments. Those are nonsense, and have been disproved in many places.
I take it that you didn't read my other comments. This one was pretty sarcastic ^^;
Both are asking an artist to do something he or she might not have been planning to do otherwise.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be really interested to see this hypothetical asexual love interest they're apparently trying to make work.
But I'm not going to pretend like the player base bringing it up a lot and asking for it now isn't perhaps making the writers do something they otherwise wouldn't do, regardless of how amiable they are to the idea.
Straight male gamer #22012: I want only conventionally attractive women in the games. They must have long hair, sexy body and clothing, no scars nor beaty marks, no wide jaws, no potato noses, no saggy boobs, sweet and feminine personality etc.
Female gamer/gay gamer/lesbian gamer/non-white gamer etc.: I want characters who are my gender/sexuality/race in the game. We just want some diversity in the games. We have you been playing your games decades, why you still pretend we don't exist and only cater your straight male demograph?
I don't see how these two are same. I think the first demand also is way more constricting than just asking diversity in the games cause people in the real world are diverse as well.
Straight male gamer #22012: I want only conventionally attractive women in the games. They must have long hair, sexy body and clothing, no scars nor beaty marks, no wide jaws, no potato noses, no saggy boobs, sweet and feminine personality etc.
Female gamer/gay gamer/lesbian gamer/non-white gamer etc.: I want characters who are my gender/sexuality/race in the game. We just want some diversity in the games. We have you been playing your games decades, why you still pretend we don't exist and only cater your straight male demograph?
I don't see how these two are same. I think the first demand also is way more constricting than just asking diversity in the games cause people in the real world are diverse as well.
Man, I loooove the broad sweep you just did there, even though we've not only seen straights males going against this, females going against this, AND gays going against this.
Two of which are friends with me, btw. Don't lump people in with this bs. You all are certainly not representations of the general female opinion, or LGBT opinion either.
Where's hashtag not your shield when you need it.
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