I know that. However they can easily except what companies and romances are going to be more liked and which one's less liked according how they play out and how much plot importance etc. they have (like Solases has high plot importance).
Or they could write the story, characters and romance arcs they want and trust that their audience isn't so petty as to continually take issue with absolutely everything they do?
How about that?
And some people did enjoy the way the romances were written while some didn't. It's all subjective and they can't please everyone.
Or they could write the story, characters and romance arcs they want and trust that their audience isn't so petty as to continually take issue with absolutely everything?
How about that?
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I'm not denying it, my point is "so what?"I don't think Panda is denying that.
If one group's options consist of one of the most unlikeable companions, it would follow that more people looking for that type of romance (f/f n this case) will be disappointed than if one of their choices was from the more likeable companions.
You may not think that should matter since it's not their job to make characters/romances that everyone likes but I don't know how you can deny the original point. Unless you don't agree that Sera's one of the most hated companions in general while Cassandra is one of the most liked.
Or they could write the story, characters and romance arcs they want and trust that their audience isn't so petty as to continually take issue with absolutely everything?
How about that?
You beautiful dreamer, you.
I'm not denying it, my point is "so what?"
People still like Sera and her regardless of her being the "most hated companion". Just because someone else doesn't like her doesn't mean that group got "the short end of the stick"
I'm not talking about individuals. I personally think Sera's a way better character/romance option than Cassandra. I also know my opinion is unpopular in spite of some others agreeing with me. Um...if there are others who agree with me, lol. I haven't really encountered many.
I don't think anyone gets the " short end of the stick" though but you have to admit there's a difference between what's offered for female options with f/f vs f/m based, for starters, on general character likeability.
If we go by that it's pretty even tbh
People still complained about Cassandra being their only male option despite her being a likeable character to others
A characters likeability doesn't really nor should it play a factor in people liking a romance option
I'm not having problem with options since I have three I like already, Cullen, Cassandra and Dorian from 8 options for me. However if we are talking who get shortest end of stick my vote is on lesbian PC just according that I think they have hardest romances to like which least plot importance. So this is only my view on who I think had the shortest end of the stick, nothing more.
The thing about Solas' romance, I doubt his romance is the next Morrigan's. It's available to a very limited number of players, and I just can't see it having any importance other than a mention in future games. But I can say the same for Cassandra if made divine.
It's my understanding that both Solas and Cullen were added in because of the additional time granted for DAI. I think the devs must have realized that there are serious issues with Blackwall's and Iron Bull's romances for many people. One is a liar of the highest order who outright betrays the IQ romantically with a pump-and-dump, and the other has sexual requirements that make a lot of people uneasy. I can see why the other two options were added, but they're not available to all female characters.
That said, I really like three of the four romance options for females.
I personally think that straight men and lesbians are less excited by their romance options regardless of what people claim with their general statements, like there will be always people complaining, which is true to be honest. Beyond that, you could notice sometimes some other things. " For example : " there will be always people who complain about any episode of DA ", yes, and yet, you could pretty see that dragon age II wasn't very well received compared to the first episode. The same for the ending of M3. General statements do not necessarily explain absolutely everything.
I personally find Josephine boring, her romance content is mediocre, short, and she isn't even a companion. There are some ( euphemism ) straight men who think the same. I'm not complaining, not everyone has to like the same things, it's just that if someone asks me the question, I'd immediately answer that without hesitating. Someone telling that only very few straight men are complaining or aren't satisfied lies to himself or is blind in my opinion. Before the release I was among people saying they were a very small and ridiculous minority, but after having silently watched on internet for a while, I'm not really certain that we could be so dismissive.
At least we got Cassandra 
, but poor poor lesbians. I must admit that I would be one, I would have rolled my eyes between Sera and Josephine. ( I like Sera, but as an Li, I'm not really attracted. At least her romance content is more interesting than for Josephine ) I am really surprised that not many of them complain on the bsn unlike straight men. I've seen quite a lot of them annoyed with their romance options on tumblr. Especially when so many are still hurt about Cassandra.
The worst with Josephine is that I find her attractive. It's just the romance content that I can't stand. I still can't believe that Bioware put a dysney princess with a dysney romance in dragon age. They should have given that to straight women, they are mostly those who ask for that kind of content.
Let's be honest, those who are the most excited about their options are massively straight women. You can see it on the bsn, on some dragon age sites, in the polls, on tumblr, on deviantart, on dragon age fanfiction. Now that I think about it, that's absolutely awful, I've tried to read a fanfiction with cassandra x male inquisitor. I couldn't fine one. ( there are quite a few but it's not about Cassandra and inquisitor, she is just mentioned in the story ). There are hundreds of fanfics... 90% are with Cullen, and Solas. After comes Dorian. It's even worse for Josephine. Barely 20 stories. last time I've watched. Which is infortunate for me because I wanted to read a point of view that could help me appreciate more what Bioware offered to me with her. The only story I got was with a female inquisitor lol.
I'm not having problem with options since I have three I like already, Cullen, Cassandra and Dorian from 8 options for me. However if we are talking who get shortest end of stick my vote is on lesbian PC just according that I think they have hardest romances to like which least plot importance. So this is only my view on who I think had the shortest end of the stick, nothing more.
If we go by that it's pretty even tbh
People still complained about Cassandra being their only male option despite her being a likeable character to others
A characters likeability doesn't really nor should it play a factor in people liking a romance option
With the exception of DAI, the companion I liked the most in a given Bioware title is not the one I romanced.
After playing and seeing some romances scene in YouTube, I must say they should let go of NPC romance. To me it just does not work and it is really limited.
I love Josephine and even Cullen but the lack of banter and adventure makes them look like side romances. Another thing that people seem to forget is that straight males and lesbian PCs have only one companion to romance, Cassandra or Sera. I find it really unfair that a minority is par up with straight males, when it had never had the same quantity or quality of straight male PCs.
If straight males have a lot of romances, lesbian PCs have a good amount too, if straight females have a lot of good romances, gay PCs have a good amount too. This is **** up and I do not think it is arbitrary and again the lack of female companions is a really bad symptom.
So in the end I really prefer the DA 2 system with one or two straight or gay/lesbian exclusive companions. This was the first time that I truly disliked the love interest in my first PT, not even SWTOR was this bad.
You think general fanbase likeability of Cassandra vs. Sera is similar? I want to know what fan base you interact with.
I don't know how you can claim a character's likeability doesn't affect romance likeability. If someone loathes Sera, why would they want to romance her? Unless, they romance her just to dump her and laugh gleefully at their TV screen. Romance brings about more interaction with a character and unless you're masochistic you wouldn't want that with a character you despise.
If you don't think it should be this way, that's something else. Though, I'm curious why you think that.
I think you misinterpreted my post, which is due to how I wrote it so I apologize
My point is that even if people call Sera the most hated companion (even though that's debatable with Vivienne to the fanbase) that doesn't stop her fanbase from liking the character and the romance as much as the people who likes Cassandra and her romance.
Most of the people complaining about them are people who just didn't get what they want, which is why I find the argument of "this group got the short end of the stick" to be just plain silly
After playing and seeing some romances scene in YouTube, I must say they should let go of NPC romance.
And I greatly disagree, Bioware should work to improve not scrap it
After playing and seeing some romances scene in YouTube, I must say they should let go of NPC romance. To me it just does not work and it is really limited.
I love Josephine and even Cullen but the lack of banter and adventure makes them look like side romances. Another thing that people seem to forget is that straight males and lesbian PCs have only one companion to romance, Cassandra or Sera. I find it really unfair that a minority is par up with straight males, when it had never had the same quantity or quality of straight male PCs.
If straight males have a lot of romances, lesbian PCs have a good amount too, if straight females have a lot of good romances, gay PCs have a good amount too. This is **** up and I do not think it is arbitrary and again the lack of female companions is a really bad symptom.
So in the end I really prefer the DA 2 system with one or two straight or gay/lesbian exclusive companions. This was the first time that I truly disliked the love interest in my first PT, not even SWTOR was this bad.
In DA2, everyone was Hawke-sexual. It's DAO that had two straight and two bisexual romance characters.
Gay PCs have the same number as straight males -- 2. And one of those two has sexual preferences that would make many people uncomfortable. Don't get me wrong, I love Iron Bull and his romance, but a healthy BDSM relationship is offputting to many people.
I think you misinterpreted my post, which is due to how I wrote it so I apologize
My point is that even if people call Sera the most hated companion (even though that's debatable with Vivienne to the fanbase) that doesn't stop her fanbase from liking the character and the romance as much as the people who likes Cassandra and her romance.
Most of the people complaining about them are people who just didn't get what they want, which is why I find the argument of "this group got the short end of the stick" to be just plain silly
And I greatly disagree, Bioware should work to improve not scrap it
At least it should not be compared with a companion romance, make it an extra and I am ok with that.
In DA2, everyone was Hawke-sexual. It's DAO that had two straight and two bisexual romance characters.
Gay PCs have the same number as straight males -- 2. And one of those two has sexual preferences that would make many people uncomfortable. Don't get me wrong, I love Iron Bull and his romance, but a healthy BDSM relationship is offputting to many people.
No, they do not have the same amount of companions to romance. Straight and lesbian PCs have only one companion to romance with full party banter included. Lesbians PCs also have Sera a rebellious young adult that has more problematic **** that any other romance I ever experience, Jacob comes really close or is on the same level.
At least it should not be compared with a companion romance, make it an extra and I am ok with that.
And now we're back on the NPC romances are inferior to companion romances again 
At least it should not be compared with a companion romance, make it an extra and I am ok with that.
Why shouldn't it be considered the same as companion romances? The adviser romance arcs got the exact same amount of resources as the companion romance arcs. They have the same amount of content.
It's an equality vs equity issue. Logic would say, if drastically more people are playing straight make inquisitors, they should get more romance options than the far less amount of people playing as a lesbian character. It's simple. I am more for the writers doing there thing, but they currently aren't doing that. In thedas it's clear that there are far more simply straight people than say lesbian or gay people. Yet in skyhold, the only purely straight female male and female are Cullen and cassandra that you can romance, which is equual to the amount of gay and lesbian characters you can romance, in Dorian and sera. It's a little strange when you think about it.After playing and seeing some romances scene in YouTube, I must say they should let go of NPC romance. To me it just does not work and it is really limited.
I love Josephine and even Cullen but the lack of banter and adventure makes them look like side romances. Another thing that people seem to forget is that straight males and lesbian PCs have only one companion to romance, Cassandra or Sera. I find it really unfair that a minority is par up with straight males, when it had never had the same quantity or quality of straight male PCs.
If straight males have a lot of romances, lesbian PCs have a good amount too, if straight females have a lot of good romances, gay PCs have a good amount too. This is **** up and I do not think it is arbitrary and again the lack of female companions is a really bad symptom.
So in the end I really prefer the DA 2 system with one or two straight or gay/lesbian exclusive companions. This was the first time that I truly disliked the love interest in my first PT, not even SWTOR was this bad.
No, they do not have the same amount of companions to romance. Straight and lesbian PCs have only one companion to romance with full party banter included. Lesbians PCs also have Sera a rebellious young adult that has more problematic **** that any other romance I ever experience, Jacob comes really close or is on the same level.
ummmm, Blackwall? lol
It's a equality vs equity issue. Logic would say, if drastically more people are playing straight make inquisitors, they should get more romance options than the far less amount of people playing as a lesbian character. It's simple. I am more for the writers doing there thing, but they currently aren't doing that. In thedas it's clear that there are far more simply straight people than say lesbian or gay people. Yet in skyhold, the only purely straight female male and female are Cullen and cassandra that you can romance, which is equual to the amount of gay and lesbian characters you can romance, in Dorian and sera. It's a little strange when you think about it.
There are also more women in the world but you have only 3 female companions, so what is your point?
ummmm, Blackwall? lol
Blackwall is not the only straight companion LI nor does he breaks up with you because of reason, also he is not the same man. Blackwall overall is not a static character and really wants to pay for his crimes.
Jacob and Sera are the only ones, that I can remember that do that.
I love Josephine and even Cullen but the lack of banter and adventure makes them look like side romances
What? No, never felt that their romances are a side thing, if nothing else being in romance with Cullen felt 100% part of the story every step of the way starting at the conversation in the chantry at Haven during the crisis and up to the balcony at Skyhold.
And I really don't see any need for the romantic interest to run around with you all the time, it works without it too.
And I greatly disagree, Bioware should work to improve not scrap it
Yes, this.
Bioware really stepped up here providing diversity, they can do better,sure, but scrapping it is just silly.
It's an equality vs equity issue. Logic would say, if drastically more people are playing straight make inquisitors, they should get more romance options than the far less amount of people playing as a lesbian character. It's simple. I am more for the writers doing there thing, but they currently aren't doing that. In thedas it's clear that there are far more simply straight people than say lesbian or gay people. Yet in skyhold, the only purely straight female male and female are Cullen and cassandra that you can romance, which is equual to the amount of gay and lesbian characters you can romance, in Dorian and sera. It's a little strange when you think about it.
Except that the writers have been clear that they are not concerned about real world statistics when it comes to writing these romance stories. They have been up front that they are actively looking to write stories for women and/or LGBT players. That's what they want to do. What you want is to tell the writers that they shouldn't have freedom to write the stories that they want in order to write more stories for you.
Also, Cullen, Cassandra, Blackwall, and Solas are straight. That's twice as many straight characters compared to gay/lesbian characters (only Dorian and Sera). So your last point is incorrect.
There are also more women in the world but you have only 3 female companions, so what is your point?
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