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[Elfyoth]

I mean why did they even bring him back? When it was first revealed that he is the elder one I actually laughed my ass off (at Haven)

 

As a dlc character he should have been someone like Samson was to him, only a servant to the Elder one

He was not menacing at all and seemed like a joke most of the time looking back at the epic Enemy of Thedas trailer I gotta say I'm beyond disappointed

 

Hell even the silent Archdemon was more menacing because the hordes of darkspawn seemed actually like a serious threat

Corypheus seems like a cheap excuse to justify building the Inquisition in my opinion

I think the biggest problem was  that many players already met him via Legacy dlc so it just seemed like a rehash

 

Anyone agree?

If you see in DA2 when Hawke kills Crypheus you'll notice some things, here a video: 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=y-eDLF6p44I

 

 

Look carefully, please. Look how Janeka in the back moves, and how Crypheus's eyes are glowing, wait I will post another video of what Janeka says, didint find one, so here the Laraius one: https://www.youtube....h?v=74CdsB7RZOA  again LOOK  carefully. I think they have planned Cory to be the antagonist of DAI. 

[NoForgiveness]

If all it takes to have a good villain is "I hate him", then every villain ever is a good villain.

That's not what I meant. I hate star child because of what his existence does to the reapers and just general shitty writing.

I hate kei leng for Ingame reasons. Like how he just runs away when I'm trying to kill him.

To me alot of what makes a good character(not just villain) is the ability to inspire emotion on an ingame level.

[o Ventus]

That's not what I meant. I hate star child because of what his existence does to the reapers and just general shitty writing.

I hate kei leng for Ingame reasons. Like how he just runs away when I'm trying to kill him.

To me alot of what makes a good character(not just villain) is the ability to inspire emotion on an ingame level.

Kai Leng is an awful villain. He's like a 7-year old throwing a tantrum during his boss fight in ME3 and sends you a childishly obnoxious email ("nya nya Shepard you suck!" after Thessia), and out-of-game, he's a stupid a**hole who eats Anderson's cereal (Because that's what someone does to someone else they don't like) and pisses in flower vases (like real people do). If he generates anything for you other than embarrassment and shame, then you probably don't know much about Kai Leng.

[Joseph Warrick]

I think Corypheus should have done a better job explaining why his position is morally correct. The star kid did that and made no sense so he's still worse to me.

[o Ventus]

Corypheus should have made his case why his position is morally correct, just like David Gaider said enemies would do in this game.

He did. Sort of. He intends to become a god and rule over Thedas, "benevolently". In his own words, he wants to become a god that answers the prayers of the people, unlike the Maker.

[NoForgiveness]

Kai Leng is an awful villain. He's like a 7-year old throwing a tantrum during his boss fight in ME3 and sends you a childishly obnoxious email ("nya nya Shepard you suck!" after Thessia), and out-of-game, he's a stupid a**hole who eats Anderson's cereal (Because that's what someone does to someone else they don't like) and pisses in flower vases (like real people do). If he generates anything for you other than embarrassment and shame, then you probably don't know much about Kai Leng.

Those are things that make him a good villain! Those aren't writing errors or things that confuse his character. That email didn't make me think "why would put that in the game?" But rather something like "what a ****** dbag"

[TheChris92]

I don't know -- Malak, Illusive Brah, Kai-Leng, Meredith, The Sith Emperor seem to be determined combatants for that title.

 

 

EDIT: In fact, most BioWare villains come off as Saturday Morning Cartoon villains to me.

[o Ventus]

Those are things that make him a good villain! Those aren't writing errors or things that confuse his character. That email didn't make me think "why would put that in the game?" But rather something like "what a ****** dbag"

Except they totally do confuse his character. Like, they turn his character completely on its head and beat it with a stick. Before ME3, Kai Leng was actually kind of cool and badass. He was an N7 who was booted out of the military for being too violent and xenophobic (put in jail for cutting a krogan's throat in a bar fight) and later got recruited into Cerberus. He shrugged off getting kneecapped by Anderson and got prosthetic legs. He was, for all intents and purposes, a more bloodthirsty version of Shepard.

 

And then in ME3 all of that is tossed out the window in favor of a troll email and a temper tantrum at the Cerberus base, not to mention the childish and wholly bizarre behavior in the books released after ME3.

[o Ventus]

yeah he is awful but how is Corypheus better? In this case plot armor would have better because poor Cory is constantly raped by the Inquisitor (after Haven) at every turn and he can't do anything

a big ***** if you ask me
 

Corypheus actually poses a threat to Thedas (as seen in the potential future during the quest where you recruit the mages), unlike Kai Leng being completely non-threatening to Shepard. Corypheus actually has a reason for doing what he does and isn't the lackey to a frothing-at-the-mouth madman.

[samb]

I liked him. He has a crisis of faith and fell hard. In the mission where you are I. The temple of Dumat it showed that he thought he was doing god's work only to find the throne was not only empty, it was bloody and black. It even showed he was remorseful about how he was manipulating Calpernia.
One thing I didn't like was that they didn't realy explain how he was change the world for the worst if he became a god. Part of me wondered if I should let him succeed just to see the results.

[NoForgiveness]

Except they totally do confuse his character. Like, they turn his character completely on its head and beat it with a stick. Before ME3, Kai Leng was actually kind of cool and badass. He was an N7 who was booted out of the military for being too violent and xenophobic (put in jail for cutting a krogan's throat in a bar fight) and later got recruited into Cerberus. He shrugged off getting kneecapped by Anderson and got prosthetic legs. He was, for all intents and purposes, a more bloodthirsty version of Shepard.

And then in ME3 all of that is tossed out the window in favor of a troll email and a temper tantrum at the Cerberus base, not to mention the childish and wholly bizarre behavior in the books released after ME3.

See I didn't read any of the books. So i just thought he was intended to be that way from the start.

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

It's hard for me to judge him, largely due to the extremely poor job Bioware did in fleshing him out in any way, to potentially give us some better perspectives on him beyond "grrrr, I want to rule the world, grrr".

 

I'd like to take the high road and think a person of his history and experience might have had a little more going on in his head than that. 

 

But, as that's Bioware's fault for poor presentation of his character, then...yes, I'd agree he's in the conversation for worst Bioware villian ever. Kai what's his face doesn't really belong in such conversations, as he's nothing but a foot soldier. 

 

On a game mechanics slant, he was definitely disappointing as the big bad, as that fight was so very easy, and so anticlimactic. 

[samb]

Yeah I know he survived and I expected him to return in DA:I
but as the elder one and major villian? no just no

thats a good point, how menacing can he be if Hawke already beat him once? I never played that DLC so he was still new for me. I haven't played any DLC for any DA game. There is enough to do over multiple playthroughs as it is. Had no idea they would have huge plot elements in them (like the next games' boss).

[Joseph Warrick]

He did. Sort of. He intends to become a god and rule over Thedas, "benevolently". In his own words, he wants to become a god that answers the prayers of the people, unlike the Maker.

 

Yes, sorry, I edited the post and didn't notice you had quoted the original.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Kai Leng is the worst with Corypheus following very close behind.

Probably this.

 

Cory was incredibly underwhelming.

[dreamgazer]

Not only is Corypheus not BioWare's worst villain, he isn't even Dragon Age's worst villain.

[Vox Draco]

Bioware Worst villain award:

 

The nominees are:

 

-The Archdemon, Dragon Age Origins. A giant dragon that appears only at teh very end of the game, is hardly seen anywhere in the game at all, is silent, and his heritage as an old god, thoguh interesting and with much potential, is totally wasted!

 

-The Lizard Queen-Thingy from Neverwinter Nights main campaign...what did she do again? Her name? A wonder she made it on the list!

 

-Kai Leng, Mass Effect 3. Our cyber-anime-ninja-reject with invincible plot-armour came out of nowhere, and wouldn't we all have wanted him to stay there!

 

-Melisandre from the final chapter of Baldurs Gate...Throne of Bhaal! Obviously the main evil from the start (as she was on the game-package!) she fooled noone, and noone cared. Instead of an epic villain or villains to battle for godhood we opposed this evil priestess straight from the school of badly-bad evil-doers, without any personality, interesting character-background or personal vendetta to the main-char! Yet how many vilainessessessess do we have anyway?

 

-Of course we have not forgotten him...the innocent face of stupidity. The total failure coming out of left-field. He made wearing hoodies uncool again! The translucent annoyance from dark space, with the agenda that never made sense. He ruined singlehandedly a great game-franchise within five minutes! THE STAR CHILD!

 

And the winner is ... *opens envelope* Well, no surprise here .... THE STAR CHILD!!!!!!!!! Come here, stupid brat, get your silly award. You are Bioware's worst villain ever, and good luck for winning the Worst villain of the century-award next month, boy! Sure you have great chances...AND NOW GET THE EFF OUTTA HERE!

[Heimdall]

what are you serious? thats just silly sure Kai Leng was a joke but I thought TIM was a great villian
and the reapers were awesome too until starbrat arrived

Completely serious. TIM was a puppet that directed stupid attacks "because indoctrination". The Reapers were no more engaging than the Archdemon after Sovereign, a vague distant threat, save when Harbinger stops by to trash talk Shepard, not much of a villain.

[KotorEffect3]

lol at thread.  Doesn't matter the game or franchise bsn will claim it is the worst at something.