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[Elfyoth]

I thought the Archdemon was far better villain then Corypheus. I ended up pitying this ancient darkspawn because he was that outrageously pathetic. I almost felt sorry for him because for the moment I thought I was dealing with a man who seemed to be possessed by a demon child whose powers was nothing more than to give tantrums.

 

 

I can't believe Bioware reinstated a DLC villain into the next game.

Bringing feelings into a Villian makes him a bad one? Are you a kid? Cuz in kids shows or what eva the villian is purley evil, Cory having feelings is much more human-like and he do it cuz he have a pride, I pity him for seeing that all he belived was a lie and then having a crisis, that what made him a good antagonist imo however the Archdemon was pure evil. 

[Lord Raijin]

Orsino was never meant to be a villain. It was EA that demanded a second boss. I just pretend that it never happen because it's just silly to turn him into a giant size harvester.

[Ashagar]

The idea that he didn't or couldn't attack Skyhold because of "magic built up in the stone" is so freaking over used and cliched at this point it's not even funny. The guy had potential, but thanks to things like that, he is pretty much nothing but a joke. 

 

You say its over used and clichéd but can you honestly list many games that did that? Because I certainly can't.

[Elfyoth]

Orsino was never meant to be a villain. It was EA that demanded a second boss. I just pretend that it never happen because it's just silly to turn him into a giant size harvester.

Not just stupid it pissed me off, and made the game even worse than it was, like no matter who you choose he dies. 

[Arl Raylen]

Kai Leng is the worst with Corypheus following very close behind.

 

Kai Leng was OK if you read the ME book series. He's basically as resourceful as Shepard...but evil. The games do nothing to flesh him out.

 

Corypheus was pretty weak. Most say Malak is an average villain, and I was way more enthralled when I was beating his face into the dirt than I was with Corypheus.

[wolfhowwl]

Orsino was never meant to be a villain. It was EA that demanded a second boss. I just pretend that it never happen because it's just silly to turn him into a giant size harvester.

He was always going to be a villain if you sided with Meredith. Someone didn't like leaving mage players with only one boss to fight so they had him turn on Hawke no matter what.

 

Also the source for this never mentioned EA specifically, it was more likely it was someone at BioWare.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

I agree that, if you sided with the mages, Orsino made no sense, now had he turned into the harvester, using the mages the templars killed and, gone after Meredith that would have made sense.

 

Cory isn't horrid, not great because he doesn't show himself enough but, he does have anyone under the influence of red lyrium and a few others that do pose a threat. Again, he is the head of snake, it's his followers that are the real problems. Without them he's just an arrogant fool with delusions of grandure.

[In Exile]

I don't know if you're putting me on, or simply making a joke? Solas would've been a GREAT main antagonist, especially after what we have discovered after the credits. The idea of him being Fen'Harel is significant. It spiked my interests for sure.

Corypheus is a joke... and the only reason why Bioware brought him back is to bring back Hawke (Why????) which he made it known of determination to beat him again in battle... oh but wait! He never shows up during the final battle because hes dealing with the Grey wardens in Weisshaupt.

What I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with reusing a character in a larger role. It's one thing if you think Corypheus sucks. That has nothing to do with him getting a bigger role.

[Lord Raijin]

Bringing feelings into a Villian makes him a bad one? Are you a kid? Cuz in kids shows or what eva the villian is purley evil, Cory having feelings is much more human-like and he do it cuz he have a pride, I pity him for seeing that all he belived was a lie and then having a crisis, that what made him a good antagonist imo however the Archdemon was pure evil. 

 

Pure evil makes the perfect villains. it is how I prefer my antagonists.
 

[KaiserShep]

And he was all 'Dumat! Dumat!' and then the Inquisitor killed him. That was sort of his thing I guess.

 

~Varric

 

Anyway, what I really like most about Corypheus is that he was a pawn himself.

[Lord Raijin]

My cat turned off my computer in which I've lost everything that I've attempted to respond to so I'm going to try to remember what I've said....

 

Bringing feelings into a Villian makes him a bad one? Are you a kid? Cuz in kids shows or what eva the villian is purley evil, Cory having feelings is much more human-like and he do it cuz he have a pride, I pity him for seeing that all he belived was a lie and then having a crisis, that what made him a good antagonist imo however the Archdemon was pure evil. 

Pure evilness is what makes a villain a good villain. I prefer it in my main antagonist.

 

Not just stupid it pissed me off, and made the game even worse than it was, like no matter who you choose he dies. 

Yeah it also pissed me off, especially considering the fact that my choices didn't exactly matter. I was going to fight both Orsino and Meredith no matter what.

 

He was always going to be a villain if you sided with Meredith. Someone didn't like leaving mage players with only one boss to fight so they had him turn on Hawke no matter what.

 

Also the source for this never mentioned EA specifically, it was more likely it was someone at BioWare.

I'm actually ok with that concept. If you side with the templars and play as a pro templar then the main antagonist should of been Orsino... especially considering the fact that he was harboring an apostate who was responsible for killing 3 women in Kirkwall including Hawke's own mother. Convicing Meredith that not all mages are evil (Especially if you play as a mage) blood mages to the point where she finally realizes that you're right would be perfect character development on Meredith part. She would still be forced to resigned and thus giving Cullen the title of Knight-Commander. Meredith would go to Val Royeaux for her retirement.

[omgodzilla]

I think Bioware's treatment of Harbinger in ME3 is the worst. The guy never even says anything. He has a small cameo at the end and that's it. Which was really annoying, considering how much they built him up as the final bad guy in ME2 =/

[Aren]

TBH, I think DAO's "Archdemon" is still the most blah villain ever to appear in a BioWare game. (Loghain is more of an antagonist & no, that's NOT the same & DAI had some great antagonists, I.E. Calpernia, Florianne etc.)

 

But the Archdemon? A tainted mindless dragon? Booooooooooring.

Yea the first time in which i was at Ostagar i was excited to  discover the true identity of the Archedemon, but then  i saw after the joining only a dragon angry for nothing..........

The architect and his disciples are more dangerous.

[Aren]

 

 

His lack of involvement in the game is a problem because it brings into question what had his attention the whole time.  You are running around zones destroying his followers all while he is doing . . . what, exactly? Sipping lemonade? He makes absolutely no effort to stop you from foiling his plans up until the end of the game where he is briefly seen trying to get to the Well of Sorrows.

 

 

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[Samahl na Revas]

Cory in DA 2 was intriguing. He was betrayed, confused, so many things. We only get a glimpse of all that through siding with the Templars and that is what I think makes him so bad. "Whoever you be, you owe fealty to any magister of Tevinter." One of the best lines I heard in DA 2.

 

It should of been the beginning of something epic and it almost was, the breach demons pouring from the fade. Then Cory goes stupid, he doesn't force the Inquisition to exhaust their resources, he doesn't attack their strongholds to force them to make vital decision that will hurt the inquisition or cause it to prioritizes their resources. With all his power, he is absent, except in key areas of the story where he fails of course.

 

I didn't really get to understand Corypheus.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

well

when you have to crowbar in multiplayer

 

single player suffers

[Captain_Crunch]

I'd have rather stayed back in the fade and fought that giant fear demon spider than Corypheus.

 

Hawke (at least in my game) got the better boss fight

[Chuvvy]

Darth Malak is the worse. The guy was so cartoonish he would cackle to himself after talking about how evil he is, and all the evil things he planned to do. He was also a card carrying member of E.V.I.L.

[brad2240]

No, OP, Kai Leng was by far worse than Cory ever was or ever could be. 

[Ashagar]

I'd have rather stayed back in the fade and fought that giant fear demon spider than Corypheus.

 

Hawke (at least in my game) got the better boss fight

 

Only if you got a cutscene where you lose and then you get a scene showing Thadas burning as Corypheus marches to victory because you were stupid enough to fight a demon king in the fade followed by a game over screen.

[Ieldra]

Pure evil makes the perfect villains. it is how I prefer my antagonists.

And that's exactly the kind I detest. Completely boring.

[In Exile]

And that's exactly the kind I detest. Completely boring.

Justified antagonists aren't really villains. And I'm not talking about the ones where the game just pretends they have a point. The ones who do have a point create a serious problem. You have to justify not joining them.

[ashlover mark 2]

Nah, that title goes to the Catalyst. It actually lived in the Citadel -- the big Mass Relay the Reapers relied on to sneak attack the galaxy; but somehow never in 50,000 years figured out how to override what the Protheans did to its own house. It also left the important task of activateing the Citadel to the Keepers instead of takeing care of that particular task itself because, you know, REASONS! Oh,and lets not forget about its superior artificial intelligence logic. "My creators, created me, so that I could find a way to save you from being wiped out by the synthetics you will create. So I, a synthetic, created the ultimate race of synthetic-organic hybrids to kill my masters and you before you are advanced enough to create said synthetics that would have killed you first but less politely. But don't worry, we harvest your speacies DNA before we finish commiting genocide; we use it to make another Reaper, so it's kind've like you're not really dead." Corypheus may have been a push over but atleast he wasn't Catalyst stupid.

[Deebo305]

Comparing him to other DA villain hes definitely not the worst. Archdemon was just a "special snowflake" imo a burnt rotting one but hardly anything special.

Then you've got Lohgain who is by all rights more incompetent as far as I'm concerned. Sure he fled the field but I accept that as experience telling him to save his men rather than follow a fool but after that he starts howling at the moon like Orlesians are gonna jump out every bush

Then comes the DA2 where....there wasn't really a villain as far as I'm concerned. While some may argue the Templars, I say how many blood mages did Hawke kill daily? Both Meredith and the Arishok were somewhat justified in their actions so the real villains...Isabela and Anders?

So as far as Corypheus goes both he and the Archdemon are perhaps the only real villains in the series so yep hes the best. Hell he basically took the mages,templars, and wardens bent them over and ass raped them one after another. Name another villain that did that

[DarthLaxian]

Cory should marry Kail Leng then we gonna get dangerous mix

 

Critical mass of idiotism you mean? (you want to destroy the universe, do you?)

 

 

ps: I agree with those who have said he should have taken a more active role in the game (trying to stop you etc.)