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#126
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I don't dislike Sera (or any other DAI character) but I think her intelligence is as low as her self discipline.

 

Have you talked to her about your companions or read her WT missions? She is incredibly perceptive and organized (or at the very least extremely good at finding other people's secrets).



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[quote name="ValentinaCurie" post="18424052" timestamp="1421791590"]ote name="sch1986" post="18423923" timestamp="1421790925"]Sure. If that's how you describe psychotic.
Smh. He doesn't like the lesbian character so the reason for him not liking her must be because she's a lesbian? Or "sexually secure" as you put it? Right. It has nothing to do with the fact that she is a total effing loony toon.
Shall I get you a ladder so you can get off his back?[/quote]
She's not a psycho, she's impulsive. She doesn't go around boiling bunnies or nugs, whatever. Try to get to know her better. It will be worthwhile.[/quote]

I take it you didn't see the scene where Sera beats the noble to death and mumbles unintelligible words if you ask him too many questions.

Impulsive is taking off all your clothes and jumping into ice cold water. Psycho is not being able to control yourself to the point of killing someone. And please don't say "the noble had it coming" because there are plenty of worse people in the game: Alexius, erimond, servis, Florianne, etc. Who "have it coming" and still manage to make it to skyhold for judging.

For the record- I actually do like Sera. But I still think she's a psycho.

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And for the record- I was mostly taking issue with the person I was quoting bringing Sera's sexuality into the conversation as evidence of good character. Or as a suggested reason as to why that person didn't like her. She grew on me- but I 100% understand why some people would hate her.

Her sexuality is not on that list of reasons. At least for me.

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She does woman and man, no way Jose. Not a chance. Not even if she was sent to girls only private schools.

Wait, are you saying that because a character is bisexual that means that they have to have had sexual partners in the past? 



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Wasn't the Cole who was killed like 15 years old or something?  So, yea, I'd sort of hope he was a virgin. 

With Dagna at Skyhold?  Doubtful...

 

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Not liking a female character does not imply misogyny. It is sexist to presume that any distaste for a female individual inherently revolves around their sex and associated issues.

 

Not liking a colored character does not mean one is racist. It is actually racist to presume that any dislike of a colored individual must stem from racial issues.

 

It is actually possible to dislike a character for their personality. This also applies in the real world. 


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I hope there is some good f*p material from DAI



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Have you ever met a mentally healthy person who built sentences like Sera? I do know a fair amount of very impulsive people but they are able to speak like normal human beings.

I don't dislike Sera (or any other DAI character) but I think her intelligence is as low as her self discipline.

Whether or not they're mentally healthy doesn't really have any bearing on a person's intelligence. Not by default, anyway.

 

As for Sera's intelligence, it's more that she's not educated or intellectual. She doesn't express herself as articulately as people like Solas, but that doesn't make her stupid. Plus, she prefers to remain ignorant of certain things (like the elven gods potentially existing) because it's emotionally distressing for her, not because she can't grasp the concept.



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Whether or not they're mentally healthy doesn't really have any bearing on a person's intelligence. Not by default, anyway.

Agreed. There are many people who are autistic who are also certified geniuses when it comes to intelligence for example. 



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Thought this was just a call out to all Dragon Age fans.



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Josephine. She's way too innocent.

I'd assume that Cullen is since he was a devout servant to the Chantry. Alistair pretty much explains that non-chaste templars and pre-marital sex are no-nos.

Oh, and Frederic. I just can't picture him getting laid. XD



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Josephine. She's way too innocent.

I'd assume that Cullen is since he was a devout servant to the Chantry. Alistair pretty much explains that non-chaste templars and pre-marital sex are no-nos.

Oh, and Frederic. I just can't picture him getting laid. XD

 

I just thought Cullen was too uptight, he had no issues brushing off any of my female dwarf's advances... racist ex-templar =P



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Josephine. She's way too innocent.

I'd assume that Cullen is since he was a devout servant to the Chantry. Alistair pretty much explains that non-chaste templars and pre-marital sex are no-nos.

Oh, and Frederic. I just can't picture him getting laid. XD

 

It might be Josephine, but why wouldn't you want her? Cullen seems very comfortable in sexual situations, which of course doesn't explicitly implies anything, but they did touched the inexperience subject with Alistair and didn't with Cullen.

 

I still think it's Cory, who would want him?


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#139
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I really don't see how/why virgins are supposed to be gross. :huh:

if a virgin was gross it might be more a cause of his/her virginity rather than effect.  



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- Cole is basically just a spirit of Compassion who cast Mirror Image on the dying/dead human mage Cole, so he could only be a virgin, unless he were made more human and it were possible for him. Do you have to make him more human to get the line, in addition to bringing him? I reckon that Imshael is similar, except that he possessed a human as a Desire demon/Choice spirit, rather than made himself it their image.

- Josephine is probably not a virgin, since she and Leliana went to "a real party" or whatever they called it.

- Leliana probably isn't a virgin in any game. Except maybe before the Leliana's Song DLC, unless Marjolaine didn't just tease her with sex, but actually did it with her - that was never clear, IIRC.

- Cullen IS a virgin, prior to his romance.

- Varric probably isn't a virgin, since he probably did it with Bianca.

- In Cassandra's romance, we find out that she had had sex with Regalyan D'Marcall - most likely after the events of Dawn of the Seeker.

- The Iron Bull is obviously not a virgin.

- Dorian might be a virgin prior to romance, since it's probably really hard for a homosexual person to find another willing... participant, I guess, in the Imperium.

- Vivienne is not a virgin, since she is/was Duke Bastien's mistress, which implies they did it.

- Solas implies that he is a virgin, or at least hasn't done it in a long time.

- Blackwall is probably not a virgin, but it's hard to say if he never tells the player. We know he wouldn't hit on a woman, even if she were feeling vulnerable.

- Sera implies she has dated people before, which means she is unlikely to be a virgin.


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I take it you didn't see the scene where Sera beats the noble to death and mumbles unintelligible words if you ask him too many questions.

Impulsive is taking off all your clothes and jumping into ice cold water. Psycho is not being able to control yourself to the point of killing someone. And please don't say "the noble had it coming" because there are plenty of worse people in the game: Alexius, erimond, servis, Florianne, etc. Who "have it coming" and still manage to make it to skyhold for judging.

For the record- I actually do like Sera. But I still think she's a psycho.

 

She's not a psych. She is definitely crazy, to some degree. Were she psychotic, she would have killed the noble as soon as she could, or at least, she would not have given you a warning or two. She says "Three, two, frigging done." which means she had had enough of the Inquisitor making polite conversation.

 

In her romance, she may leave you even though she (in that scene) obviously loved, or at least cared for, Quizzy. A psycho would have attacked her (to inflict pain or have sex) or gone crazy, instead of talking the situation out when it got bad.



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I take it you didn't see the scene where Sera beats the noble to death and mumbles unintelligible words if you ask him too many questions.

Impulsive is taking off all your clothes and jumping into ice cold water. Psycho is not being able to control yourself to the point of killing someone. And please don't say "the noble had it coming" because there are plenty of worse people in the game: Alexius, erimond, servis, Florianne, etc. Who "have it coming" and still manage to make it to skyhold for judging.

For the record- I actually do like Sera. But I still think she's a psycho.

 

I dunno. She seems to take having his lands and title seized rather well. A real psychotic would have just killed him regardless.



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It might be Josephine, but why wouldn't you want her? Cullen seems very comfortable in sexual situations, which of course doesn't explicitly implies anything, but they did touched the inexperience subject with Alistair and didn't with Cullen.

 

I still think it's Cory, who would want him?

 

???

 

Uh yes they did. You can even probe him about it at Haven.



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Uh yes they did. You can even probe him about it at Haven.


Wait, what? Cullen actually says he's inexperienced? Like a virgin? I completely missed that. How did I miss that? I know he says he never took any vows against chastity but I never caught that he was a virgin. What does he say specifically?

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Wait, what? Cullen actually says he's inexperienced? Like a virgin? I completely missed that. How did I miss that? I know he says he never took any vows against chastity but I never caught that he was a virgin. What does he say specifically?

 

It's highly implied with the whole "No one's caught my eye and before I was in a bad place" thing. I'm not sure how you missed that XD



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It's highly implied with the whole "No one's caught my eye and before I was in a bad place" thing. I'm not sure how you missed that XD


No no, I noticed that. I guess that didn't automatically scream virgin to me. I assumed he was talking about serious relationships, not virginity.
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No no, I noticed that. I guess that didn't automatically scream virgin to me. I assumed he was talking about serious relationships, not virginity.

 

I took that with the way he behaved in DA2 regarding the ladies at the Pearl and yeah it pretty much screams virgin to me. It's not like being a templar is that conductive to being laid anyway considering they're stuck in the tower and to sleep with anyone in there is insubordination at best. And the chances of him rolling around in the hay at 13 are pretty low.

 

I mean I guess you can see him as having fooled around in his younger templar days.



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I took that with the way he behaved in DA2 regarding the ladies at the Pearl and yeah it pretty much screams virgin to me. It's not like being a templar is that conductive to being laid anyway considering they're stuck in the tower and to sleep with anyone in there is insubordination at best. And the chances of him rolling around in the hay at 13 are pretty low.

 

I mean I guess you can see him as having fooled around in his younger templar days.

 

Yeah, I'm with Elsariel on this one. I mean it is completely possible that Cullen is a virgin, you could say that his window of opportunity to fool around is kind of small, up to the events at the Ferelden Circle, because it's all downhill for him after that.

 

But the fact that he is an introvert doesn't mean necessary that he is a virgin, just someone who is not very comfortable discussing the situation with an almost stranger, supported by the fact that  there are other things he doesn't want to talk about at Haven.

 

With Alistair it was made crystal clear. I'm more puzzled by "but you probably don't want him" thing.



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Yeah, I'm with Elsariel on this one. I mean it is completely possible that Cullen is a virgin, you could say that his window of opportunity to fool around is kind of small, up to the events at the Ferelden Circle, because it's all downhill for him after that.

 

But the fact that he is an introvert doesn't mean necessary that he is a virgin, just someone who is not very comfortable discussing the situation with an almost stranger, supported by the fact that  there are other things he doesn't want to talk about at Haven.

 

With Alistair it was made crystal clear. I'm more puzzled by "but you probably don't want him" thing.

 

Yeah it's a very small window of opportunity.

 

Oh I'm not saying that makes him a virgin. It just helped support to me that he was. I know there's very extrovert virgins, and so on.

 

Isn't it Cole for the only virgin in the PC's party? I mean yeah why would the PC want to sleep with Cole :X


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Isn't it Cole for the only virgin in the PC's party? I mean yeah why would the PC want to sleep with Cole :X

 

Yeah, that would be all sorts of weird.