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[macready1988]

Playing through the game again on nightmare and at the two key action set pieces I have to say if it wasnt clear enough before, on a second run the Inquisitor definitely isnt very impressive. With the assault on Haven and at Adamant there are these incredible action setpieces going on and the inquistor kind of flounders during them in my opinion.

While at Haven it was nice given the choice to silently and stoically accept youre about to drop an avalanche on your own head and in all likelyhood will die, other than that the Herald/Inquisitor didnt seem all that heroic. When standing toe to toe with Corypheus i actually cringed more than anything at how they reacted.

Also again at Adamant, the archdemon reappears, but rather than give you at chance at a valiant if futile battle at that point in the story (whether in combat or even a cutscene) instead the game gives the spotlight to that moron Clarel and lets her redeem herself (when really she should have died a disgraced coward).

If youve seen the inquisitors reaction when the archdemon lands and begins forcing them towards the ledge, standing there jaw agape, its almost painful.

Now I should say, i do enjoy the game and Im not expecting the protagonist to wipe the floor with the villains at every turn or appear overpowered, but seriously could a bit of badassery have really hurt in these cutscenes (and no i dont count firing the trebuchet - Corypheus reaction to it said it all)?

Now I know ive got to look forward to the Inquisitor running from Corypheus & his pet like a pansy later when i get to the temple as well.

Its probably not helped by the fact that my inquisitor is already a high level death machine who has slain over half the games Dragons already and in gameplay terms SHOULD be able to stand toe to toe with them, but still i expected more.

If this story is to be continued via DLC i seriously hope we get to see the Inquisitor in a more formidable fashion in future cutscenes because I struggle to think of a time during the game when I looked at the inquisitor and thought "that was epic". Plus with the incredible music this game has thats quite an achievement.

[Colonelkillabee]

Depends on the Inquisitor, bro. Mine certainly didn't feel underwhelming.

 

Some fit the role better than others.

[macready1988]

Its not the role talking about though its the lack of action. Bioware decided to scrap the non-voiced pc for a more cinematic approach, but i wasnt particularly impressed with the results.

As an example, I highlighted adamant:

*A wild fake archdemon appears*

*Inquisitor uses slack jawed stare*

*Its super ineffective*

Then Clarel does her little heroic redemption.

Id have much rather seen the Inquisitor tussle with the Archdemon, trade a few blows and in the melee both smash eachother into the chasm and the game continues as before.

It just seems at times the inquisitor just flops when theres am opportunity to really do something incredible.

[Colonelkillabee]

Lol you don't just clash with a dragon... You may do that in the gameplay, but this is a frikkin dragon. I get what you're saying about the cutscenes and missing the chance to make us "Master Chief" in Dragon Age, but I dunno, saving everyone by popping into the fade, wiping out waves of demons with one hand movement when you get out, putting that ****** in his place in the western approach with the grey wardens... there could be more, but meh, it was enough for me.

 

Hawke and the warden had almost nothing like that besides the Warden getting shot dead, shoulder bumped at ostagar, and the only genuine action, killing the archdemon, which our equivalent is ****** Cornflakes up with the orb so bad, you'd have sworn he owed us child support.

 

Like I said, I don't see it.

[NoForgiveness]

Well there is a line in Haven where wutshisface is like "kneel" And the closest thing to "no" I could find came out as like "you'll get nothing from me" in a really just horrible way. This was alix btw. But other then that i thought my Inquisitors were really good in the haven scene. Definitely one of the better scenes.

[veeia]

Yeah I kind of agree, but for me it's more that the Inquisitor has a huge degree of political power that seems laughable (like you're basically the top dog in Thedas by the end), but on a player experience level you're very reactionary/passive or limited. I'm just not sold on how they handled the PC this game, but it's less to do with NOT ENOUGH BADASS, and more "not enough activeness or ability to make mistakes etc on the players behalf enough even though they they literally control the fare of nations". (You have similar agency issues in da2 but it doesn't bother me because you're such a Scrub nobody, it's a big point of the game)

In your Heart Shall Burn tho, I disagree, it's one of the better bits.

[macready1988]

I just think the game throws the world shaking events at you right from the get go, and youre just expected to run with it, and when the big moments arrive the Inquisitor just sort of half asses their way through it. The only time they dont is the end and its really just not that impressive.

At least in Origins it played the "but im just the damned new recruit" card at the beginning until you got your act together, and like I said that was old school protagonist, now the new style voiced and supposedly more active protagonist.

Overall it didnt negatively impact the main game for me too much, just kinda felt like the whole thing was a missed opportunity. Like, good but not as good as it could have been.

[In Exile]

Yeah I kind of agree, but for me it's more that the Inquisitor has a huge degree of political power that seems laughable (like you're basically the top dog in Thedas by the end), but on a player experience level you're very reactionary/passive or limited. I'm just not sold on how they handled the PC this game, but it's less to do with NOT ENOUGH BADASS, and more "not enough activeness or ability to make mistakes etc on the players behalf enough even though they they literally control the fare of nations". (You have similar agency issues in da2 but it doesn't bother me because you're such a Scrub nobody, it's a big point of the game)

In your Heart Shall Burn tho, I disagree, it's one of the better bits.

Bioware cannot write an active protagonist. It's impossible for them. Because it requires them to give a kind of control over the plot they don't know how to write.

[Deanna]

Did anyone not have that talk with Varric in Skyhold? I don't remember the exact wording:

You fell out of the sky literally. Survived an explosion that killed hundreds. Travelled thru time. Faced a darkspawn magister thing. Had a mountain fall on top of you. And lived. One of those is impossible, all of them together at the same time....

There's plenty of badass moments for the inquisitor.

[Br3admax]

Lol you don't just clash with a dragon... You may do that in the gameplay, but this is a frikkin dragon. I get what you're saying about the cutscenes and missing the chance to make us "Master Chief" in Dragon Age, but I dunno, saving everyone by popping into the fade, wiping out waves of demons with one hand movement when you get out, putting that ****** in his place in the western approach with the grey wardens... there could be more, but meh, it was enough for me.

 

Hawke and the warden had almost nothing like that besides the Warden getting shot dead, shoulder bumped at ostagar, and the only genuine action, killing the archdemon, which our equivalent is ****** Cornflakes up with the orb so bad, you'd have sworn he owed us child support.

 

Like I said, I don't see it.

That's not counting what we did to said fake archdemon. It's not like it died on its own. 

[EmissaryofLies]

The Inquisitor is a benchwarmer that is at home in a comedy role.

 

Hawke shits on her and so does the Warden.

 

The Inquisitor does not deserve to be in charge of such a massively important organization.

[crimzontearz]

I felt underwhelmed only by the duel work Josie's suitor.

I had killed dragons by then and this fop presents an issue for my unsupportable reaver inquisitor?


Come on....I was hoping for an "arrival" type of reaction followed by utter butchering

[Precursor Meta]

It feels particularly weird when you deny being a herald of Andraste or a hero for that matter. At that point, its kind of feels like you're being held there against your will.

But even as my goodie-two-shoes inquisitor, I still felt that Cassandra should've been the head of the organization.

[Zetrial]

Well there is a line in Haven where wutshisface is like "kneel" And the closest thing to "no" I could find came out as like "you'll get nothing from me" in a really just horrible way. This was alix btw. But other then that i thought my Inquisitors were really good in the haven scene. Definitely one of the better scenes.

 

You'll.... you'll get nothing fro me. Yeah that was a cringeworthy line, sounded like the Quizzy wanted to pee themselves more than straight out defiance. I think they expected people to want to discuss Cory's motives or the mark with him rather than outright defy him.

[LadyJaneGrey]

No, this protagonist isn't particularly impressive...which is exactly why I think the whole set-up works.

 

The Inquisitor happened to be in the wrong place in the wrong time (or right, depending on whom you ask) and can now close the Rifts.  And the three founding members (whether they believe the Inquisitor to be the Maker's Chosen or just a really convenient tool and scape-goat if **** goes south) have exactly what they need.

 

@Precursor Meta My Dalish certainly felt trapped.  I loved it.

[Colonelkillabee]

I felt underwhelmed only by the duel work Josie's suitor.

I had killed dragons by then and this fop presents an issue for my unsupportable reaver inquisitor?


Come on....I was hoping for an "arrival" type of reaction followed by utter butchering

One reason I'm glad I didn't romance her. It was very cute, but if you're a warrior.... it's like... lame as ****. I can't BEGIN to imagine this scene for male Qunari. Hell, or female Qunari, lol.

 

 

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[theluc76]

of course the Quizzy is underwhelming, its not your character to start with.

[EmissaryofLies]

of course the Quizzy is underwhelming, its not your character to start with.

 

That's all that needs to be said.

 

It stinks of the Shepard of Mass Effect 3.

[Hazegurl]

ME3 Shepard may have been BW's protag too but at least he was exciting.  The Inquisitor is about as interesting as watching mud harden in the sun.

[EmissaryofLies]

True enough; the serial of Mass Effect allows it to be forgiven for the most part. Enough of who I created at the starting screen of the original was left over for ME3, luckily.

[Colonelkillabee]

ME3 Shepard may have been BW's protag too but at least he was exciting.  The Inquisitor is about as interesting as watching mud harden in the sun.

 

 

Lol I honestly think that's more the fault of the player than Bioware. But that's just me.

[crimzontearz]

He was not Bioware's protagonist


He was Mac Walters's

[AlexiaRevan]

With Subtitle on..my quizzie kinda sutter that Line when you are supposed to be screaming with rage and defiance . 

 

[Hazegurl]

Lol I honestly think that's more the fault of the player than Bioware. But that's just me.

Oh sure, my Quizzy is exciting when I use headcanon to black out the monotone voice and timid stuttering (see pic above) when I want him to be defiant. Or the back and forth BS he does during Hushed Whispers when Leliana sacrifices herself after already understanding the stakes involved.  Watching Dorian have to pull his behind in line was cringeworthy.  Or the timid behavior when telling Sera to leave (not during her personal quest). Keep calling it the fault of the player if you like.  I didn't make him act like such a wuss.

[Colonelkillabee]

Lol apparently you did or you're overthinking it. The only time I ever felt like I was a wuss a bit was when staring down Cornflakes and his dragon the first time, which I liked, because this is a ****** original magister and a possible archdemon, and I'm just some guy with a thing on my hand I don't understand (plus background I won't bore you with). But I grabbed my balls and did what I had to do, then took out his entire force myself, and lived.

 

Meh, opinions opinions. All I know is I felt like my Inquisitor was more badass than both the warden and Hawke. Just goes to show how different people perceive things in many many different ways.