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Dear BioWare, Your Ending Sucks


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#51
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Uhm.... In case you haven't noticed, you had used an Iluvian. While your forces obviously had no such luxury. A small group might have followed back quick enough (e.g. Cullen) but it takes longer to relocate vast armies across the land. Also note, that they had no internet and delivering a small message like "I'm safe and I'm home. Get back. Yours, Inquisitor" takes some time.

 

 

Actually. the REAL climax of the game was 'in your heart shall burn'. Emotional-wise that was the most epic moment, imo. Arbor was even slightly weaker than retaking the Adamant.  That's kinda strange to get the 'top' moment in the middle of the game, but (as I've mentioned many times) that's probably intentional.

 

The game does not really 'end' per se. It feels incomplete because it IS incomplete - the Inquisition still continues, with all its powers, allies and enemies. To me the only possible 'ending' can be disbanding the Inquisition, preferably - by my own choice (I'd hate it to be done off-screen by a random tweet, really)

 

No 'big plots' are available with such a scale of influence, which means that any sequel would require sweeping it away first somehow. Or, may be, some sort of 'lesser' plots (e.g. DA2).   

 

Vast armies? What vast armies? My inquisition felt very small and i wouldnt think that Gaspard or Celene would lend tens of thousands of soldiers to fight a couple of hundred venatori or red templars in a jungle. It was no battle of adrianople or anything big like that. 



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Oh great we have another one.If ending suck for you then make a better one, instead wasting time and make stupid topic.


Oh my, I do love a good logical fallacy.
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I really have to remind myself that when a thread title has the word "sucks" or "worst" I should skip it all together because it can't be good going into it.


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Vast armies? What vast armies? My inquisition felt very small

Are you kidding? Have you ever tried to actually look down from the battlements?...

There's a special spot for that not far from Cullen's lair. The whole bloody valley is swarmed with your camps (by the end of the game that is).

 

 

It was no battle of adrianople or anything big like that.

Sure, just a crazed Darkspawn Magister (known to have a pet archdemon\dragon) with a bunch of crazed tervinter fanatics& corrupted templars. Nothing to worry about, really. Anyone can beat those with a pillow. The Haven had fallen for no reasons at all... :rolleyes:



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Are you kidding? Have you ever tried to actually look down from the battlements?...

There's a special spot for that not far from Cullen's lair. The whole bloody valley is swarmed with your camps (by the end of the game that is).

 

Oooh, I didn't know that, will have to check next time. Thanks!



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What? There is an end to the awsomness of DAI?



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Oooh, I didn't know that, will have to check next time. Thanks!

i tgink he is kidding.. there is no such place to my knowledge... if it was why would it be hidden?

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Whatever. Anyone with a brain that works would've called bullshit immediately when Mark Darrah said "This will have 40 different endings" just a year after Casey Hudson's scandalous "ME3 will have 16 WILDLY different conclusions"


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Mark Darrah NEVER said there would be 40 different endings. This was a mistake by a journalist which Mark Darrah CLARIFIED on his Twitter account first quarter 2014.

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I just finished my second run. My ending was very much different from the first run. This time around Gaspard rules, the southern Greg Wardens are rebuilding (rumored to be feuding with Wieshaupt, which goes silent), Cass becomes the Divine. I like this second ending better than the first.

On a side note, I purchased the Legacy dlc for DA2 yesterday morning for the first time. Coryfish was much tougher when Hawke freed him from the prison.

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Mark Darrah NEVER said there would be 40 different endings. This was a mistake by a journalist which Mark Darrah CLARIFIED on his Twitter account first quarter 2014.

putting any number on the ending variations was a bad idea after ME3



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Eh. I'll make my response simple; I enjoyed it. I know. Scandolous, right?

 

See, opinions are varied. I just disagree with this one.



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Heh.  I didn't care for the ending, but I'll take a moderate disappointment over an abomination any day!

I concur.  It felt like the ending...wasn't an ending.  Until DLC is released, I will withhold judgement.

 

i tgink he is kidding.. there is no such place to my knowledge... if it was why would it be hidden?

It's not hidden.  On the battlements of Sky Hold roughly around the time you're doing Adamant (IIRC) there is a large camp in the valley below.  (Near to where Cullen is found).

You just have to angle the camera to view it.  



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You lost me when you said that, including minor variations, there is only one ending. Which is just... blatantly not true.

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We all killed Cory. That is ONE ending. Then there is minor differences (divine, grey warden, Orlais...).

 

If we could fail, and die against Cory. Or screw everythings and make the Inquisition fall (as the title say...). Yeah, it could has more than one ending. But it doesn't.


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You can't fail against the archdemon either. You or your companion can die, but you know it's coming because you refused your get out of death card, but you always succeed.
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#68
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Yeah I know. What's the point about DAI having only one ending ?



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DA:I only has one ending if you ignore every other story detail.

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Lol I don't know why you're talking about DAO now. I never said previous DA were different. People said DAI has multiple endings. I say no.



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Mark Darrah NEVER said there would be 40 different endings. This was a mistake by a journalist which Mark Darrah CLARIFIED on his Twitter account first quarter 2014.

If I reacall currectly Mark Darrah said there would be 5 diffrent endings. 



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I think everyone agrees that the ending was not good. The whole final mission was rushed. I agree with most your points about the narrative as well but I do not want to tell Bioware how to do there job. I do hope the next game has some genuine moments of lose and danger. It is really annoying that the Inquisitor nor any companions are never in any real danger.

 

Part of me wants to hope that the reason the game ended on such a frank note is so they can continue with the Inquisitor and the Inquisition in future games. I just hope Bioware recgonizes that while Inquisition was good it could use a lot of improvments. I also hope they start paying attention to how there games end.



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Lol I don't know why you're talking about DAO now. I never said previous DA were different. People said DAI has multiple endings. I say no.


You can deny it if you want, but there are in fact various epilogues to reflect different outcomes. Whether or not these variations matter to you is not important.

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Well... The story only has one ending. Then minor differences are just consequences about your choices. But those consequences don't change anything about Cory (or Solas).

You can put any a*ss you want on the Divine sit, Cory is still dead. You can exile all the wardens you want, Cory is still dead. That's what I mean. ^^

 

But I never said that DAO or DA2 were different.



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There were multiple endings though? Obviously, not big, different ending mission and epilogue ones, but there were different ending cards depending on what you did throughout the game. If Bioware hadn't exaggerated about the endings before you played, would you have minded them so much?

 

Why does the inquisitor need to be sacrificed? The mark was said to be killing them while the breach was left open and the inquisitor has not touched it. After they stabilized it (making them the herald), the mark stopped being hurtful, supposedly.

 

There could be a number of reasons why Corypheus doesn't attack you at Skyhold. Firstly, he looks too busy doing other stuff. He probably just wanted to do his thing and ignore you if possible by going to the temple and opening the breach before you could stop him. Skyhold could also be hidden from him by magic. Skyhold is hinted at being...weird.

 

The ending mission was pretty lame, it's true. If you think of the battle as the epilogue and the battle at Mythal as the final mission, it's better.

Corypheus could be busy doing what? Attending to his defeated army? No. If anything, he'd be better off attacking Skyhold than sacrificing himself to open the breach again. An ultimate sacrifice ending should've been implemented because I do not want to see my Inquisitor again, not after they screwed up Hawke's appearance in DA:I. They won't ruin another protagonist for me. We did not have multiple endings, only multiple epilogue slides. Even the banquet is practically the same regardless of your decisions, so there were not multiple endings, that is a fact. The epilogue, by definition, is the post-ending or part of a story that follows the conclusion/ending.

 

Dear Vultrae,

 

Your threads sucks!

 

Thank you for listening

 

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Dear FreshRevenge,

 

Your grammar sucks!

You do not use a plural subject with a singular verb.

 

Thank you for listening!

 

-Vultrae

 

It was pretty much a par for the course ending, with some slides and a cutscene. What could you have possibly been expecting otherwise? Its basically the same as the last two, but prettier.

I was expecting multiple endings as promised, not different pictures at the end. That is ridiculous. It isn't even close to the first to, even Dragon Age 2 had more endings than Inquisition. It was even up to par with the rest of the series.

 

"I love you, you suck"? :mellow:

 

Yes, the ending could have been more immersive and could have brought together many elements from the game, but it's a far cry from DA2 or ME3. Criticism is better received when it isn't littered with insults.

Your right, it is far from ME3. Far worse. At least in ME3 you got different colors, here we don't even get a different shade for our endings. It's all one ending, with the same colors. 

 

"40 endings" was a misprint by some magazine. Mark Darrah clarified this...almost a year ago.

While I agree the final mission was underwhelming I don't agree that any of the points you bring up fit within the narrative. I'd rather tell them how the ending makes me feel and let them work it out then tell the professionals how to do their job.

Also, if you really love Bioware, dipense with the insulting language. We have enough of that. It wouldn't surprise me if Bioware passed this over as just another hate thread.

A convenient misprint that generated tons of publicity and hype for the game. "Misprint", more like "outright lie" or "publicity stunt".

 

Who said that was the ending? The inquisitor still has much to do. You missed the entire plot Flemeth and the Dreadwolf Solas are the beginning to something new. So I didn't see the game as ended. The inquisitor is merely catching her/his breathe for the next impending storm. Our Armies are still strong standing forever vigilant. I feel sorry for their Garrison life now, Garrison in the Military SUCKS haha back to 0500 PT.

This is the ending. "More content later" in DLC does not excuse a poor ending for the vanilla game. I've seen this excuse used far too many times for far too many games. "DLC" is not part of the main game and should never be considered as such. We weren't promised 40 endings in DLC, we were promised 40 endings in the main game. 

 

Unless Bioware goes back on their new protagonist for every game approach the Inquisition and Inquisitor are done.

Which is highly unlikely. Most we'll get from the Inquisitor outside of DLC is a cameo that is equally disappointing to Hawke's appearance in Inquisition.

 

While I would have put it in a more eloquent way (and bit more tactful) the OP has a point.  This is yet another case of more exaggerated claims and outright lies.  Although, I am perfectly fine without an Ultimate Sacrifice ending.  I've had enough of those for two generations of consoles thank you very much.  It's a trope that is being used WAY too much recently. 

Thank you! Someone who finally agrees with me (at least on some of my points).

 

Dear Bioware,

 

I will donate money for boxes of tissue so you can pass them out to all the people winging and moaning about not making the game just for them.

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

AutumnWitch

They should save that money to make a decent ending as part of a free patch, but I just might need those tissues after reading your ridiculous post.