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Ok, so... How to make Knight Enchanter not stupid OP?


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#26
Biotic Flash Kick

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Yes I am

i dont have the software to upload from my 360

 

if i find t3 ill use it

and as a qunari

its a joke 25% reduced melee damage

and i always run out of the wayLoS of rangers and mages

 

also there is a NAKED KE run going around

and that shi+ is impressive as well 

 

on top of which im doing a 600% extra damage nightmare run in a separate file :DD

 

all berserk masterworks on a sns character ;33

 

dark souls instant kill **** 



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Ok, so you're kiting etc. to handle the ranged/magic stuff.  FYI, archers are much better at that and don't need any points at all for it.  Nothing special about the KE there.

 

The naked KE video is mine, btw.  It uses a lot more than 3 points.



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Ok, so you're kiting etc. to handle the ranged/magic stuff.  FYI, archers are much better at that and don't need any points at all for it.  Nothing special about the KE there.

 

The naked KE video is mine, btw.  It uses a lot more than 3 points.

yeah it's pretty boring :/

im 83 hours in from all my kiting and im doing the warden missions

it's

so

******

boring

and

slow

kill me

--

i know ;DD



#29
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So you're exploiting the crappy AI and using Qunari's racial ability, which any ranged class can do with zero points.  How is this supposed to prove the KE is "OP" again?

 

Oh right - it doesn't.

 

KE is overpowered for a lot of reasons, but being able to solo Nightmare with a 3-point build is not one of them.


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#30
Biotic Flash Kick

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So you're exploiting the crappy AI and using Qunari's racial ability, which any ranged class can do with zero points.  How is this supposed to prove the KE is "OP" again?

 

Oh right - it doesn't.

 

KE is overpowered for a lot of reasons, but being able to solo Nightmare with a 3-point build is not one of them.

 

actually that does kinda spell out overpowered O:

 

while some builds need 15/22 points to be able to solo with meh gear

 

using 3 points to solo is absolutely OP

KE is literally the faceroll press two buttons kind of class

 

auto attack and spirit blade

 

people told me you need more than spirit blade to beat the game

No i dont

it's boring as ****

no doubt

 

and i killed the abyssal dragon so YAY for dragon mats :33

Crafted a new staff for that Cold with walking fortress and used the armor with fade cloak on it

 

currently level 15 with lol 3 points spent

its pathetic 



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actually that does kinda spell out overpowered O:

while some builds need 15/22 points to be able to solo with meh gear

using 3 points to solo is absolutely OP
KE is literally the faceroll press two buttons kind of class

auto attack and spirit blade

people told me you need more than spirit blade to beat the game
No i dont
it's boring as ****
no doubt

and i killed the abyssal dragon so YAY for dragon mats :33
Crafted a new staff for that Cold with walking fortress and used the armor with fade cloak on it

currently level 15 with lol 3 points spent
its pathetic

I don't think you've caught rynas's point. Kiting the AI while relying on masterwork items and qunari resistances has nothing to do with the KE.

You want to prove otherwise, post a video. Excusing it away by claiming you 'don't have the software' isn't going to fly.
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#32
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I don't think you've caught rynas's point. Kiting the AI while relying on masterwork items and qunari resistances has nothing to do with the KE.

You want to prove otherwise, post a video. Excusing it away by claiming you 'don't have the software' isn't going to fly.

 

Exactly.  Until then, he's full of s***.  It's not that hard to upload a video from Xbox One.

 

Based on some of his other comments, I wouldn't be surprised if he's never actually played a KE at all.  Yet another "KE IS OP OMG!" whiner who has no idea what he's talking about.


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#33
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Don't take any of the skills.



#34
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DEAR GOD

Hate this ****.

 

here lies the abyss

is

so

god damn

hard with only 3 skill points and no party

arrrrrrghhhh



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I asked this on another thread but got no reply so I thought I'd try one more time: does friendly fire have any effect on KE?

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Biotic Flash Kick

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I asked this on another thread but got no reply so I thought I'd try one more time: does friendly fire have any effect on KE?

Yes



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Actually the only way to "gimp" yourself, as a mage (or any of the classes) is not to take a specialization. You don't have to , you know. I built a mage around frost and spirit, ignoring the specializations completely. My mage is almost impossible to kill. But also takes forever to kill anything. Why he has friends. ;) I pretty much sit back and keep everyone alive and let Bull, Cass and Solas kill everything else. Also VIv can rip through everything easy enough.

 

If I play the game again, (and that's a BIG If) I might try this with a warrior. Not go Reaver or Templar.



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Actually the only way to "gimp" yourself, as a mage (or any of the classes) is not to take a specialization. You don't have to , you know.

 

While that undoubtedly makes the game harder, given the name and intent of this thread it's not a very relevant piece of advice. A whole lot of things can potentially make the game more difficult (like hanging a sheet over your screen or playing with one hand), but the trick is to also preserve your character concept and general sense of enjoyment while doing so.



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actually if you go no spec mage you can be stupidly overpowered with all tree powers

 

static cage + barrage

barrier + dispel

Fire wall + fire mine/immolate

Ice wall + fade step/ice mine/winter grasp

 

seriously!

Ice wall -> ice mine -> fire wall

you can trap enemies between both walls and they just bounce around burning :DD

 

you will have so much control 

sure you will lose some great DPS walking bomb/spirit mark in a static cage 

or abyss pull + fire storm/fire mine

But you gain so much crowd control and you can switch abilities out on the fly :33

 

ice dragon? put in more fire spells and use fade step



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You don't want the KE to be stupid OP? Okay, I got something.

 

1. Only 2 skill points in KE tree

 

2. No armor/accessories 

 

3. No party

 

4. Nightmare Mode

 

5. Your staff cannot have any "guard gained" or "healing" master works and can only have a max DPS of 115.

 

Good luck



#41
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All mages are OP once they get gear (like most other class/specs). If you want fights with KE to be a little more balanced, I would:

 

1. Make sure you are the only mage in the party with barrier, or don't use barrier yourself.

2. Don't use the focus ability, as it is wildly overpowered (like most focus abilities) if you want a challenge.

3. Don't use Fire Mine; your average damage drawback in KE except vs barrier/guard is removed if you have this spell.

4. Don't use the Temporal upgrade. It trivializes every humanoid melee-range enemy susceptible to it in the entire game.

 

After that you should be a little more well-rounded, although as MarakaiBen suggests you can just remove any points from fire as well unless you really want fire spells for feels.



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You don't want the KE to be stupid OP? Okay, I got something.

 

1. Only 2 skill points in KE tree

 

2. No armor/accessories 

 

3. No party

 

4. Nightmare Mode

 

5. Your staff cannot have any "guard gained" or "healing" master works and can only have a max DPS of 115.

 

Good luck

Ooooh

now this sounds fun :D

 

i was doing it the really unfun way with just 3 points in KE and no where else

 

this actually sounds like fun [well to me]