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Did sealing Corypheus into the Fade actually help? [I'd say spoilers but it's a moot point]


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Okay. 

 

Let's take a couple steps back. 

 

Even though it might feel underwhelming to some I thought the ending was good.

Then I do this dangerous thing called thinking. [Brb thought police are outside my door]

And now I feel like this isn't sequel baiting there is going to be a sequel more than likely. 

 

Part 1: Fade Shenanigans

 

Corypheus did want to get into the Fade. Thing is he said he needed the anchor and the Well of Sorrows.
But if that is true, then how did he open the doors to the Black City and walk the fade before?

 

See there was no anchor and no breach when he first walked the Fade.

Our proof is: It's never been written about and we have records from varying countries across the world of Dragon Age and Thedas that never once mentioned a passed breach.  

 

On top of it, The Ancient Elves/Mythal's Sentinels who might have been around the same time as Corypheus or have been descended from the even older Elves that might date back to Corypheus, never mentioned a past Breach.

 

The Inquisitor might have done what the Wardens originally did. Sealed away a problem that is not going to get resolved until another sequel so we will have another villain with Corypheus  pulling the strings or another blight.

 

On top of which if you exile the wardens and Corypheus corrupts another old god in the Fade the inquisitor may be forced to become a Grey Warden and look at that: Corypheus gets the anchor and the inquisitor and possibly the well of sorrows all in one go. 

 

Part 2: Pragmatism and Rifts 

 

I just have this feeling that we have done more harm than good. On top of all of this: We put him closest to his pet the Nightmare [who taunted Solas/The Dread Wolf] and well maybe Corypheus  will find a way to corrupt Hawke because if you left Stroud, Alistair or Loghain, Corypheus can corrupt them. The nightmare would just kill Corypheus and Corypheus would corrupt/be reborn through the grey warden you left behind. Corypheus doesn't have to immediately rebirth through  a warden host. DA2 proved this because the Warden you side with at the end of Legacy is possessed but Corypheus isn't reborn and it fooled Hawke to it has a delay. 

 

I honestly believe we are going to have to deal with Corypheus even more before this is over. And not for nothing Corypheus isn't really a compelling villain [well, if you sided with the templars then you get to know more about him].

 

Personally, I wished legacy was skipped/not canon but that's me. 

But on top of it all, Corypheus is not gone for good.

Especially since there are rifts all over Thedas that are still open and there is nothing stopping him from walking out of those. 

 

Even if you seal all the rifts pre-breach closing, what is stopping Corypheus from ripping a couple in Ferelden and in Orlais during the final battle? The Inquisitor cannot seal both of them at the same time so he could just pop out of the other one. 

 

Part 3: Blights and Elven Lore is Wrong

This is just so bad of the inquisitor. there are old gods and 'dead' gods floating around in the fade. Remember how elven Lore said all the gods were tricked and sealed away? Flemeth [as well and Mythal's Sentinels] has taken the biggest dump on this. This leaves the door wide open that not all of the Elven gods are sealed or dead. Which means Corypheus  can corrupt one of them while he is in the Fade and start the next Blight. Remember, he is a powerful magister and a darkspawn. He could indeed corrupt any sleeping god/forgotten/'dead' into an Archdemon. And thus Blights.

 

So the Elves are going to be the Alien Council from Mass Effect when it coems to helping stop a new blight or corruption of an Old God.

Player Character of Dragon Age 4: Your gods were not all tricked by the dread wolf! They could be still asleep or unsealed!

Elves: Our gods? Alive? We have already dismissed that claim.

 

And as I stated before: Exiling the Wardens May truly throw Orlais into turmoil.because we know that the elves are wrong about their dead gods and the inquisotr didn't kill Corypheus . In fact the Inquisitor may have helped Corypheus  more than we know! Especially if the Inquistor has to partake in the joining to slay an archdemon. It's a free possession for Corypheus + anchor + possibly well of sorrows.

 

I honestly think the Inquisitor has given us the worst case scenario.

 

What about you? 

 

EDIT: 

If you leave a grey warden in the fade then cory has a way of coming back. You sent pieces of cory to the fade. And the nightmare could in theory help cory get to that grey warden since archdemon souls jump to the nearest body with the taint. 



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Sucking someones body inside out equals sealing?


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Cory is dead. The ending was supposed to be the Inquisitor using their super duper spirit bomb hadouken blast to kill him. It was meant to just be a cool "F yeah!" moment using the magic power Cory had given us himself and that we'd been using most of the game to close rifts

 

Yeah, if you stop and think about it there's the implication that you didn't kill him but actually gave him what he wanted by sending him into the Fade (personally I think it's a bit of a stretch, but I won't argue it's not a valid interpretation of what happened), but you're not supposed to think about it. Just enjoy the flashy colours and wonder what's up with Solas, because that's where the real speculation is meant to happen.


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Sucking someones body inside out equals sealing?

I didn't see this?

got a video?

i saw cory get sucked into the fade. 

Cory is dead. The ending was supposed to be the Inquisitor using their super duper spirit bomb hadouken blast to kill him. It was meant to just be a cool "F yeah!" moment using the magic power Cory had given us himself and that we'd been using most of the game to close rifts

 

Yeah, if you stop and think about it there's the implication that you didn't kill him but actually gave him what he wanted by sending him into the Fade (personally I think it's a bit of a stretch, but I won't argue it's not a valid interpretation of what happened), but you're not supposed to think about it. Just enjoy the flashy colours and wonder what's up with Solas, because that's where the real speculation is meant to happen.

That's what I thought at first too. 

 

Okay, it is a bit of a stretch but I still feel this looming feeling that we aren't done with cory.
I wonder if that pretty colours line is a crack at me3's ending :P

 

Yeah, that's super cool too. I kinda of want to leave that alone because that can go so many ways. If cory is back/not dead well :/
Gunna have to do this all over again. 
Who knows maybe DA:I will become it's own time loop. 



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I thought the whole "Oh you want to go into the Fade--I'll grant you your wish" line wasn't meant to be taken literally. The Fade is where souls can go when people die. The Inquisitor can kill Cory because he/she killed Cory's dragon. Now Cory's soul is going to be sent into the deepest darkest pits of hell the Fade. I thought that's what the Inquisitor meant when he/she said that line.


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Well the anchor is broken so... Even if he's in the fade, he can't do anything. He doesn't have enough power anymore.



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Considering he is INSIDE/OUT....I dunno



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I thought that was the inquisitor using her Focus ability except on steroids. It sent him to the Fade in very gorey messed up pieces.

 

Besides, my girl Hawke is ready on the other side if he's still alive. "Up for Round 2?"


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Personally, I think if Corypheus somehow survived the Rift opening from inside him and sending him into the Fade that that fate is even worse then death. Now he is in the Fade with the Black City always in sight. There is nowhere in the Fade he can go without seeing his target. And yet no matter what he does, he cannot reach it so his goal is always just out of his grasp. Now take the fact that the Blight has made him ageless and he is stuck in that torment for all eternity. 



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The inquisitor opened a rift IN HIM and he died, I hope, well imagine what fan outrage would be if he is the antagonist for DA4 bioware wont do that woukd they?

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I'm not reading that dissertation of an OP. Short answer: he's dead...so yes. 



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I didn't see this?

got a video?

i saw cory get sucked into the fade. 

That's what I thought at first too. 

 

 

 

It opened up inside of him. What else WOULD it do?



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The Anchor still works. I killed Corpy and afterwards sealed a rift in the Hissing Wastes.



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He can influence anything from the fade if he is alive.

 

This is what he would look like.

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ah well

playing on console it didnt look at clear cut. 

[saw some HD clips]

 

Still. i really hope to god he's dead.

i don't want to come back to this thread in 3 years and yell at myself for jinxing it and cory still end up being alive. 



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I thought it rather odd, the character would banish, (apparently), Corypheus to the fade with his mark, as that is apparently what happened. Exactly what he wanted, but apparently we're supposed to believe it's in a way that doesn't work for him. I'd have just killed him, and I pretended that's what really happened.



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There is another problem with this:

 

if you left stroud / alistair / loghain in the fade

cory can possess them.

You kill him but the soul of an archdemon/darkspawn like cory will find the nearest tainted body and possess it and the nightmare would gladly help cory find alistair / stroud / loghain 



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Corypheus is not dead. The Inquisitor did not kill him. As long as the blight lives so does he. The Black City is what gave him and the other six Magisters the Blight. The Black City is the source of the Blight and it is in the Fade. Corypheus is now in the Black City, just not how he wanted to be. He is imprisoned there and unable to return to the physical world. That is until Solas eventually tears down the veil and Corypheus is released. 


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Corypheus is not dead. The Inquisitor did not kill him. As long as the blight lives so does he. The Black City is what gave him and the other six Magisters the Blight. The Black City is the source of the Blight and it is in the Fade. Corypheus is now in the Black City, just not how he wanted to be. He is imprisoned there and unable to return to the physical world. That is until Solas eventually tears down the veil and Corypheus is released. 

 

Now that would be incredible if true.  See you need to keep these great ideas aware from the writers, now they will go and re-write it if this is their intention! :P



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No, Corypheus is dead, the Rift the Inquisitor opened inside him tore him to pieces while he was vulnerable thanks to the death of his dragon.

The End

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No, Corypheus is dead, the Rift the Inquisitor opened inside him tore him to pieces while he was vulnerable thanks to the death of his dragon.

The End

His body yes. His spirit is in the Fade. He can only resurrect if the host has the taint. The Black City is the source of the taint. He is in the Black City. 



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His body yes. His spirit is in the Fade. He can only resurrect if the host has the taint. The Black City is the source of the taint. He is in the Black City.

You're assuming his soul persisted without a body to jump to. Not to mention the Black City is impossible to access from the Fade normally, even by spirits.

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Why wouldn't his spirit persist? It's not that the Black CIty is impossible to access, it's that even the strongest of demons avoid it in fear of the blight. Corypheus is full of the blight. He has no fear of entering the city. 



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He might be in the fade, but that doesn't mean he can't get out (until the Veil is removed at least)



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Hello, necro!