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[Menthus]

Not sure if this build has been discussed before or not, but here is what I have been playing my necro.

 

The focus of this build is to spread out frozen debuff for team combo through the virulence talent. Notice that it is a build for level 19, as I don't keep any of my classes at 20.

Active skills: walk bomb, fade cloak, winter's grasp and horror.

http://da-skills.net...01B,110,011,000

 

AOE case:

If walking bomb is off cool down

1) cast walking bomb

2) detonate walking bomb

3) auto attack till 65 mana, and cast winter's grasp on an enemy with low health. If winter's grasp kills the enemy, the frozen status will spread.

4) keep auto attacking the frozen enemy if it survives the winter's grasp or walking bomb DoT, when it dies, all other nearby mobs will be frozen.

 

If walking bomb is on cool down

1) walk close to the enemies

2) cast winter's grasp on an easy target to freeze it

3) activate fade cloak, walk into the frozen target

4) fade cloak kills the frozen target, and activates AOE freezing.

5) walking bomb as soon as it is off CD.

 

Boss case (only discuss demon commander, and group has no tanks or barrier casters)

Necro can tank the demon commander to a degree at threatening or lower. All you have to do is to activate fade cloak when you see the smoke before the commander spawns underneath you. The damage from the fade cloak will help you keep the aggro and mitigate the jump attack. Replace horror and some passives with fade step, or blizzard (for ice armor) if you really want to solo it.

 

Due to the relative short window of the frozen debuff from winter's grasp (4seconds), a decent staff may be required to fully utilize this build. In addition, as fun as this build can be, the newly frozen enemies will only freeze for a very short duration and may impose great danger for a careless necro.

[Drasca]

Yep. My favorite playstyle. Try ice mine on top of the enemy group for lower mana cost for some variation.

 

http://forum.bioware...en-necromancer/

[Boatzu]

nice build, a tip for people who don't know, if you detonate walking bomb on an enemy that is frozen and then kill that enemy while it is still frozen it will blow up twice(once for when you press the button to detonate walking bomb and once after it dies while frozen).

[Menthus]

Yep. My favorite playstyle. Try ice mine on top of the enemy group for lower mana cost for some variation.

 

http://forum.bioware...en-necromancer/

Yes a room full of white statues is very satisfying!

 

While ice mine takes less mana, and has longer freezing duration, I found it is very hard to optimize its usage in a PuG, especially in any rounds before the final one. Winter Grasp also has a chance to kill the target and spead out the freeze immediately, and does not break winter stillness bonus. After all it is probably a matter of personal taste.

[Menthus]

nice build, a tip for people who don't know, if you detonate walking bomb on an enemy that is frozen and then kill that enemy while it is still frozen it will blow up twice(once for when you press the button to detonate walking bomb and once after it dies while frozen).

Ahh I didn't know that... I blame that there are always way too many explosions with walking bombs .

[IanLai]

how many time you use fade cloak?

i really not dare to rush inside group of enemies even i get ice armor on perilous

 

how many time you can spread frozen to enemies on difficulties >= threatening

even i get 155 dps staff  i won't say i can get it more than 1,2 time per game when there are 4 players

especially full of archer or AoE player can get your kill when you doing auto attack

 

and when you use 65 mp winter grasp , you can't do walking bomb

until you restore mana, your target already got killed

[Menthus]

how many time you use fade cloak?

i really not dare to rush inside group of enemies even i get ice armor on perilous

 

how many time you can spread frozen to enemies on difficulties >= threatening

even i get 155 dps staff  i won't say i can get it more than 1,2 time per game when there are 4 players

especially full of archer or AoE player can get your kill when you doing auto attack

 

and when you use 65 mp winter grasp , you can't do walking bomb

until you restore mana, your target already got killed

First let me say it is supposed to be a fun build, not a soloing build or fastest killing build.

 

I do use fade cloak a lot, but can't comment it on perilous. You can get close to your enemies, but you don't have to be the first person doing that. In addition, most perilous group has a dedicated barrier caster so survivability will not be an issue.

 

Now for the more chaotic threatening PuGs, yes I can activate the AOE freezing very often. I do not rely on auto attack to activate the effect either. In the first situation the target has already suffered one WB explosion + winter's grasp + WB DoT, and in the second situation it has got winter's grasp + fade cloak.

 

Winter's Grasp's mana usage can be used to complement WB, as shown in the first situation. You need to weaken the target with WB first, and by the time your mana regen to 65, you can usually finish off the target with winter's grasp very quicky, which is essensial for this build to work.

 

Finally I try not to compete with my teamates for kills, if they can kill targets before me, that usually means I can roll my face on my key board, and you know, still "get paid"!

[IanLai]

First let me say it is supposed to be a fun build, not a soloing build or fastest killing build.

 

I do use fade cloak a lot, but can't comment it on perilous. You can get close to your enemies, but you don't have to be the first person doing that. In addition, most perilous group has a dedicated barrier caster so survivability will not be an issue.

 

Now for the more chaotic threatening PuGs, yes I can activate the AOE freezing very often. I do not rely on auto attack to activate the effect either. In the first situation the target has already suffered one WB explosion + winter's grasp + WB DoT, and in the second situation it has got winter's grasp + fade cloak.

 

Winter's Grasp's mana usage can be used to complement WB, as shown in the first situation. You need to weaken the target with WB first, and by the time your mana regen to 65, you can usually finish off the target with winter's grasp very quicky, which is essensial for this build to work.

 

Finally I try not to compete with my teamates for kills, if they can kill targets before me, that usually means I can roll my face on my key board, and you know, still "get paid"!

 

even you said it is not for solo

but virulence is 100% trigger by solo no one steal your kill

 

timing may work but i seldom able to do it

most of the time more than half of the enemies is already dead when you doing WB explosion

usually your teammate AoE ,reaver dragon rage , archer/hunter explosion shot.

especially some heroic player never loot. they rush forward without waiting 

by the time you succeed , only few enemies left . yes the are frozen. but who care when a few left.

they are frozen or not will not harm anything

that's why i cant find a better way to use this passive

i thing you may make use of ice mine , which give a longer freeze duration than winter to kill enemies

this may be good for boss fight on wave 5 but still easily suffer from kill steal, when boss fight can be a mess situation