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[rapscallioness]

i think i'm gonna go fire up my game. i've been neglecting her lately.

[N7KnightSabre]

I'll admit, when I saw the title, I thought about Cassandra after the Fade event trying to write down what happened and complaining about how bad she is at it.  That's how slow I am today.   

 

But, yes, I was very impressed with Cassandra in Inquisition.  I wasn't sure what I'd think about her before I played.  As the game unfolded, I was met with a character that had so much to her.  She was tough, passionate, smart, funny, and cute.  She admitted when she made mistakes and owned up to them.  Stood up for what she believed in, but had doubts if she did the right thing.  She was this strong Seeker who could stand her own against anyone on the battlefield and after the fight, return home to read smutty literature .  I could tell that even if my Inq and she disagreed on things, there was respect and understanding.

 

One of my favorite dialogues was at Haven after siding with the mages/templars:

 

Cassandra - "It's your doing, after all.  You created this alliance."

 

The Inquisitor would then respond in a way that sounded defensive. At which Cassandra is surprised but states that she probably came off as being accusatory and clarifies her stance on the matter.  I love this bit of interaction.  A lot of people in Cass' place would've snapped back or been offended by the Inquisitor's defensiveness.  She doesn't.  She realizes that she might of  come off wrong and proceeds to work out the misunderstanding. This was a nice little detail and shows what kind of person she is.  I really enjoyed it.

[Korva]

The Inquisitor would then respond in a way that sounded defensive. At which Cassandra is surprised but states that she probably came off as being accusatory and clarifies her stance on the matter.  I love this bit of interaction.  A lot of people in Cass' place would've snapped back or been offended by the Inquisitor's defensiveness.  She doesn't.  She realizes that she might of  come off wrong and proceeds to work out the misunderstanding. This was a nice little detail and shows what kind of person she is.  I really enjoyed it.

 

Agreed! I also found her original accusation understandable to a degree, since some mage/templar twit had just tried to loudly complain at her. Her bewildered-exasperated expression and voice afterwards actually made me laugh. Cass, people direct the whiners to you because everyone knows that nobody delivers smackdowns like you do.

[Fiskrens]

I had a wonderful moment with Cassandra when my female (andrastian) mage "accidentally" flirted with her at a time when they already had found friendship. I was awarded with a long monologue where she started that she really wanted to feel the same for my character, but couldn't. And that she hoped we could remain close friends, despite her turning down my characters' invite.

Made me all gooey. Maybe there are similar dialogs for other relationships in this game, haven't played through that many. It's still an example of the excellent writing this game contains.

[nedweb]

Of all the romances I've pursued in Bioware games, this was absolutely the most rewarding.  I only wish I hadn't pursued it so ardently in play through 2 that I quickly got the point where there was little further development of the relationship.

 

I usually find the "uncanny valley" issues disturbing with any of the romances, but that little half-smile Cass gives when you talk to her...man.  I feel about her the way my wife felt about Alistair in DA:O.  

 

Good, good stuff.

[ElementalFury106]

Cassandra is the best.

[deerstop]

I couldn't agree more! Initially I didn't even like Cas, but she gradually grew on me (just like a real person would), and in the end I loved her. She's an awesome character. Same thing happened with Iron Bull.

[arlofthan]

Bless this post. Also, shoutout to the writers for creating a faithful character who's intelligent and idealistic without being an ass. Some religious people are zealots (Sebastian) and some are apathetic (Sera), but most are reasonable people who hover somewhere in between. It's nice to see that represented in a central character.

[Eyes_Only]

I agree in regards to Cass. My elf rogue archer being well... dalish. sort of mocked the idea of being the herald. She made it VERY clear she did not believe in the maker or the chantry. She made it VERY clear she did not support the rule of the templars over the mages. Yet despite all that, she and Cass became probably the closest of friends through out the game. Even when Cass was absolutely pissed off at my elf for siding with the mages after redcliffe, she still seemed to understand why I did what I had.

 

In the end my elf even admitted that while she believed in her own gods, she also believed in the existance of the maker. She actually supported Cass to become the next divine but Leliana still got it. Oh well.

[Ieldra]

Bless this post. Also, shoutout to the writers for creating a faithful character who's intelligent and idealistic without being an ass. Some religious people are zealots (Sebastian) and some are apathetic (Sera), but most are reasonable people who hover somewhere in between. It's nice to see that represented in a central character.

Now if they would only extend that courtesy to nonbelievers. Instead, the only prominent NPC unbeliever we have is....Corypheus. That's the only thing bugging me about how the faith theme was handled in DAI, but I find it really annoying since it's just so stereotypical to make a villain an unbeliever as if that actually added to his evil. Haven works well since he actually has a good point when he says he's seen the throne of the gods and found it empty, but in the end he descends into the incarnation of nonbeliever stereotypes.

[Cespar]

This could be a little too into my role play, but...

 

Cespar Cadash is a criminal. Pre-Inquisition, he could never think of being anything else even if he wanted to. People will always just see a dwarf that's up to no good, despite Cespar only doing what he grew up to know. He believes in the Maker, but also that the Maker have never done anything to help him get out of his situation of being something more. People tell him all the time to give up his faith. The Maker doesn't allow dwarves in his throne. It's better if you just believe in the work that get you through everyday life.

 

Ok, let me fast-forward a little bit. Here we have this beautiful woman, Lady Pentaghast. She has all of the characteristics that Cespar wants, which tends to make him pull away from Cassandra a little. He may be jealous of how far she can go in life without any boundaries holding her back. Cadash comes to know Lady Pentaghast. He learns how sometimes she doesn't know exactly what to do. Here he was, holding this woman up on this perfect pedestal, but even she has her demons that she's struggling with. Cespar actually wanted to know more about her at this point. He learned of how she lost her brother, which he could relate to losing some of his close friends in carta runs. She really didn't fit in with most of her family. Cespar knew that the carta meant well with him, but he could truly never really relate to them with his faith of course.

 

What really sealed the deal for Cespar was when Cassandra told him that she admired him. He told her that all the things he did was because she had inspired him to be better than his past. He actually meant something to people. He meant something to Cassandra, and he wasn't going to let that bond fade away so easily. He was ready to be the leader that the people needed. For the people, for Lady Pentaghast, and for himself. The carta thug dwarf was no more, but now was the Inquisitor.

 

Sorry for rambling. 

 

Tl:dr: Cassandra inspired my carta thug to be more than he thought he could be. 

[MrSnoozer]

Everyone here is praising her for being a level headed religious person and here i am liking her because some traits she has shines a light on her vulnerable side.

[KaiserShep]

Now if they would only extend that courtesy to nonbelievers. Instead, the only prominent NPC unbeliever we have is....Corypheus. That's the only thing bugging me about how the faith theme was handled in DAI, but I find it really annoying since it's just so stereotypical to make a villain an unbeliever as if that actually added to his evil. Haven works well since he actually has a good point when he says he's seen the throne of the gods and found it empty, but in the end he descends into the incarnation of nonbeliever stereotypes.

Well in fairness to Corypheus, the whole reason he's all in the darkspawnitude is because he was a hardcore believer. Of course, not in the Maker, but he did believe in something.

[Korva]

Yeah, I can only speak for myself of course, but this unbeliever has no issues with Corypheus. He's so hung up on religion that losing his "god" -- and the political prominence it afforded him -- is something he refuses accept. I don't want to be a deity, and I certainly don't want to doom the world to become one.

[Current Future]

Cassandra was easily the best written character in DAI. I also think (in DAI) she was the most compelling and by far most interesting. I found myself feeling for her many times and she seemed "real" to me. All the  other's in the game seemed a little "stock" if that makes any sense.

 

Her lighter cute moments made the game for me. I always play as female and her reaction the first time you try to flirt with her is bloody brilliant. The whole thing with Varric's book in priceless which was made so endearing by how well the voice actress played her as well. Her pseudo-flirting with Bull was also great.

 

She comes across as smart, confident, strong and funny. But it was when she let her guard down and was vulnerable which really made my heart feel for her. I can't say enough good about her and how well she was done.

 

Would have loved to be able to have her as a LI.

 

Thanks for the post!

 

I would have loved for her to be a same-sex LI; some reactions (both Cassandra's and a female Inquisitor) after flirting with her were priceless.  

 

The way she exclaims "Wait!" after Varric offers her the book then walks away gets me every time.

 

I love her depth... she's devoted to the Maker, but not a zealot like Giselle who believes every word of "The Chant" as if it were truth. She is strong-willed but willing to admit when she's wrong.  And she is willing to see (and respect) views contrary to her own as long as they respect hers.

[arlofthan]

Now if they would only extend that courtesy to nonbelievers. Instead, the only prominent NPC unbeliever we have is....Corypheus. That's the only thing bugging me about how the faith theme was handled in DAI, but I find it really annoying since it's just so stereotypical to make a villain an unbeliever as if that actually added to his evil. Haven works well since he actually has a good point when he says he's seen the throne of the gods and found it empty, but in the end he descends into the incarnation of nonbeliever stereotypes.

 

Just because Corypheus is an unbeliever doesn't imply that unbelievers are bad. Solas, Morrigan, Zevran, Oghren and Shale are examples of agnostic or atheist characters that are at least a little sympathetic. It's just that the medieval setting isn't conducive to having no faith at all. The Qun is more of a culture than a faith and the dwarves don't really focus on religion, but we haven't spent as much time around dwarves and Qunari, so we aren't privy to that side of things. Also, I thought they handled non-believing dialogue very well for the Inquisitor. 

[Korva]

I love her depth... she's devoted to the Maker, but not a zealot like Giselle who believes every word of "The Chant" as if it were truth.

 

Heh, Mother Giselle is far from that. Talk to her in Haven and she'll readily admit that much of the Chant is not perfect, nor a perfect rendition of Andraste's songs, but rather based on all-too-human motivations. She believes in the basic message, but for her part she's decided that hands-on help for those who need it the most takes priority over the political struggle to change the ideology (a struggle for which she'd likely be ill-equipped).

[ManOfSteel]

Cassandra is easily my favourite companion in the game, and is perhaps one of the best and most well written characters of the series so far. Certainly as far as companions go, and that's saying something, considering the number of brilliant companions and characters we've had in the series up to this point.

[rak72]

I like her banters with Dorian. They are able to have smart mature conversations instead of the sniping we see between other companions.

[President of Boom]

I expected to loathe her, but she became my second favourite character. She's direct, honest, never underhanded, and she likes hitting stuff--qualities which I value in others and which I like to believe I possess as well. Cassandra is like my inquisitor's sibling with whom she has absolutely nothing in common. They are part of the same "family", if you will, they respect each other and have each other's backs, but they never pass up an opportunity to mock each other's choices and get a rise out of each other. It's a love-hate relationship.

And speaking of hate, you know you can smash her dummies in Haven... I wasn't aiming for the dummies though .

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Now if they would only extend that courtesy to nonbelievers. Instead, the only prominent NPC unbeliever we have is....Corypheus. That's the only thing bugging me about how the faith theme was handled in DAI, but I find it really annoying since it's just so stereotypical to make a villain an unbeliever as if that actually added to his evil. Haven works well since he actually has a good point when he says he's seen the throne of the gods and found it empty, but in the end he descends into the incarnation of nonbeliever stereotypes.

 

Meredith and Orsino were both believers, yet they both were villains in the end. 

Cory being an nonbeliever is simply part of his character, something he acquired through experience. The thing about him isn't how he's a nonbeliever, it's that he was willing to set the whole world into chaos and become a 'god' himself. 

[Scerene]

Which is why I find her statement at the Temple of Mythal odd, where she says she can't understand how someone can "pour such devotion into this nonsense" when looking at the impressive art of the temple. At this point in the story she usually comes across as someone who is well aware of how certain aspects of her own faith must appear to a nonbeliever. It's the only time when one of her statements didn't appear to fit.

my respect for her flew out the window  as soon as i heard that. She gives disapproval if you say you dont believe youre the herald of andraste, or at other times when you suggest you dont believe in the chantry, and yet she expresses herself in such a condescending tone about other peoples beliefs, and even has the gall to do it on sacred ground. I can just imagine her reaction if somebody showed up at a chantry and called believing in the chantry and the maker, "pouring such devotion into this nonsense". Up to that point she was sort of my "bestie", along with Dorian. Now its just Dorian, but i feel ambivalent toward cass, part of me still likes her and i do recognize her willingness to question herself(though i dont really think she does it in any substantial way), but she is a religious zealot who is very hypocritical at times.