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#276
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Seriously. Not liking something is fine, I do it all the time, but trying to convince others that they shouldn't like something is taking it to new heights of pointless absurdity. I don't like Assassin's Creed, you don't see me going to their forums and shouting it up and down. 

Same here,I dont even like AC one bit ,but I'm keeping negative opinions to myself,in the Internet of course.Why ? Because I'm grown enough to know some people will get furious and I wont earn nothing by doing that.But of course little kiddos do or grown up person with kid personalities whatevs..



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The franchise has been butchered. The game is pure trash. Dragon Age is dead.

 

I know a true sequel to DA:O is completely out of the question, so I hope that DA:I doesn't meet internal expectations and EA buries the franchise.

Why? If you don't like the franchise just don't buy the games in future. Why would you want the games to end in spite of the people who actually like/love the franchise.

 

I mean I hated both Witcher and Witcher 2 so I wont be buying 3 that doesn't mean that I wish they would stop making them. There are a lot of people who do like the Witcher franchise so they should keep making the game for them.



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The only reasons I can think why people would like this game are...

The casual gamer loves DA:I as it has shallow gameplay that doesn't require much thought, Shiny graphics, so its an easy pick up & play game, entry level (RPG)

The console gamer loves DA:I as they constantly used to being served up shovelware games, most other games on console only require quick thumbs, so this game must seem to stand above most other offerings, considering. It must be a amazing CONSOLE game.

 

The whole, If you like a game I don't that means you are a casual gamer is extremely childish. People like me have been playing games for over 30 years and love this game. Until last year I was exclusively a PC gamer now I play on next gen because it's the future.

 

Yes this game was made for next gen consoles and 90% of games that come out from now on will be designed for next gen consoles that is why I have gone from playing games on my PC with mouse and keyboard and am now playing on a next gen console. I will admit that it is an amazing console game.



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I wonder if there are people over there doing that, or if this is just a BSN thing.

I think that their forum went into meltdown when Unity was released just like BSN.



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Nonsense, OP.

 

I've been around the Bioware forums for a long time, and there's nothing particularly unusual about the level of activity around the release of this game, when compared to others. Except perhaps DA2, which saw a huge surge of hate and disappointment; so much so that they had to open another "general" forum for just the registered game owners, hoping to create a calmer place to discuss the game.

 

With Inquisition, following these forums, I see that criticism is more constructive, less of the "OMG THE WORST GAME EVER!" type. There are over dramatic responses, as there always are, blowing rather minor complaints totally out of proportion, but I get the feeling that the Inquisition forums get less and less of that.

 

People who initially complained about many things - myself included - who stuck with the game anyway, learned it's ways, and found many of their complaints less pressing, in the face of a game that was actually very good indeed.

 

It's not a perfect game, and it's got things that could be improved upon, but it IS a game worthy of the world of Dragon Age, one that I quite enjoy playing. And I'm not a casual gamer impressed by glitter and pretty pictures either - I've played mainly RPGs and strategy games since the late 1980's. Times change, and nostalgia gilds every memory of older, much loved games. That makes us older gamers sometimes a hard bunch to please, especially if you don't want to get stuck in the past, and avoid all change.

 

I'm in what I suspect is the majority, who is enjoying the game, and looking forward to a few fixes and improvements in future patches.


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The developers saw this thread and are now thinking "Oh, damn, well looks like we have to make a new game now."  


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I put 100 hours into Inquisition. I've done countless DAO/ME runs. It's not just about the older games. The older games had their own issues. Origins has it's own issues. None of these games are perfect. But game of the year? 9/10? Come on man. You and I both know this game isn't the best thing made in 2014.

The part you're missing is that it's YOUR opinion. Your opinion does not make it fact. Many others like DAI a lot. It's not as good as Origins, but it's light years ahead of DA2. You're stuck in the 90s and early 00s. That's your prerogative. It doesn't mean everyone else has to follow your lead. We spoke, Bioware listened. DAI is a lot better.



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The part you're missing is that it's YOUR opinion. Your opinion does not make it fact. Many others like DAI a lot. It's not as good as Origins, but it's light years ahead of DA2. You're stuck in the 90s and early 00s. That's your prerogative. It doesn't mean everyone else has to follow your lead. We spoke, Bioware listened. DAI is a lot better.


You keep telling the other person that their opinion is an opinion, then go and call your opinion a fact :P

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DAO was a huge success, but for whatever reason, it seems EA wanted Bioware to go in a very different direction for DA2.  That led to the head of DAO leaving the company, because he knew that the direction they wanted to go in (DA2) was going to be inferior, and wanted no part of it.  Happily, after DA2 they changed directions again, and went in a much better direction this time.  Still not the same as DAO, and yes in certain aspects it would've been nice if DAI had been a bit more like DAO, but for the most part the new direction is a huge step forward.  It's huge, epic scope was absolutely fantastic, and amazing.  Yes they bit off a bit more than they could chew in certain areas, but for the most part the game is just awesomely fun, and whatever shortcomings you might be able to point to will be easily improved upon in DLC/Expansions, or learned from and made great for DA4.  So I feel great about the general direction of the franchise, I think the GOTY awards and great sales numbers are making the higher ups feel great about it, and while obviously a game this incredibly huge will always have certain flaws, the good far, far outweighs the bad and this is a game that will not only be fun to play for years to come (especially once the DLC/Expansion comes) but it will serve as the new model for all future games in the series, so long as EA doesn't inexplicably make them change a winning formula again I think we've got nothing but epic awesomeness to look forward to in the DA Franchise for many years to come!


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Nonsense, OP.

 

I've been around the Bioware forums for a long time, and there's nothing particularly unusual about the level of activity around the release of this game, when compared to others. Except perhaps DA2, which saw a huge surge of hate and disappointment; so much so that they had to open another "general" forum for just the registered game owners, hoping to create a calmer place to discuss the game.

 

With Inquisition, following these forums, I see that criticism is more constructive, less of the "OMG THE WORST GAME EVER!" type. There are over dramatic responses, as there always are, blowing rather minor complaints totally out of proportion, but I get the feeling that the Inquisition forums get less and less of that.

 

People who initially complained about many things - myself included - who stuck with the game anyway, learned it's ways, and found many of their complaints less pressing, in the face of a game that was actually very good indeed.

 

It's not a perfect game, and it's got things that could be improved upon, but it IS a game worthy of the world of Dragon Age, one that I quite enjoy playing. And I'm not a casual gamer impressed by glitter and pretty pictures either - I've played mainly RPGs and strategy games since the late 1980's. Times change, and nostalgia gilds every memory of older, much loved games. That makes us older gamers sometimes a hard bunch to please, especially if you don't want to get stuck in the past, and avoid all change.

 

I'm in what I suspect is the majority, who is enjoying the game, and looking forward to a few fixes and improvements in future patches.

 

The level of rage is approximately similar to DA:O. Even a lot of the complaints are similar. It's almost nostalgic. 


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The level of rage is approximately similar to DA:O. Even a lot of the complaints are similar. It's almost nostalgic. 

The cycle must continue. There is no alternative.


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Well I'm back from my 3 day vacation for having an opinion, good to see the thread still lives though.



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The cycle will continue... no matter what.

 

It's a bit like the DA games themselves; decisions in game are made, yet the outcome is pretty much always the same.



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Same here,I dont even like AC one bit ,but I'm keeping negative opinions to myself,in the Internet of course.Why ? Because I'm grown enough to know some people will get furious and I wont earn nothing by doing that.But of course little kiddos do or grown up person with kid personalities whatevs..

Something. I've argue about how bad it is with people but I don't go to ubi's site or fans sites to argue it on their forums



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The level of rage is approximately similar to DA:O. Even a lot of the complaints are similar. It's almost nostalgic. 

 

And yet the game itself is no where near the quality of Origins. It doesn't matter what your opinion is, the fact is the game is 90% filler content. That's how this game will be remembered. It is a singleplayer mmo. Just because the average gamer that doesn't play mmos doesn't grasp this, doesn't mean it isn't true. It is copy and pasted directly out of the old republic.

 

People can defend this game until the cows come home, mods can ban me for stating my opinion, it doesn't change what the game and series has become.



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So... an MMO for the anti-social?



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So... an MMO for the anti-social?

 

If you're into that sort of thing...



#293
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Not really.

 

There's as much sense in that as there is in making a Tali sweat graph.



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i was expecting action game and i have it. (even if DAI is a mediocre action game)

 

as for rpg - i am waiting for persona 5 and torment.

 

I don't know a ton about Torment, but I'm concerned that they had to put it to a poll to decide their combat mechanic: Real Time with Pause vs Turn Based. Not knowing what you're doing before you start a project is a big red flag for me.

 

What were you searching for in Google, "DAI sucks"?

Jokes aside, it always feels like the majority when it's your own opinion, whether it is reality or not. I'm sorry you don't like the direction the series is going in. I think enough people like it enough for it to continue. I'm not trying to make any sort of empirical claim, just a hunch. I personally feel it is very much not done, nor should it be.

 

My problem is that the series doesn't seem to have a direction. It seems to be bouncing all over.

 

 

B: You need to work on your definition of "literally". EA is a software publisher, not a disease resulting from abnormal cell growth.

 

 

You're not the only one to say this, but unfortunately we've already lost that battle.

 

http://dictionary.re...e/literally?s=t

 

Apparently this has actually been going on for a LONG time.



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The cycle must continue. There is no alternative.

 

Stop it! No! No, no, no.



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The level of rage is approximately similar to DA:O. Even a lot of the complaints are similar. It's almost nostalgic. 

That is such unadulterated BS.



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That is such unadulterated BS.

 

Said the member since a week ago.

 

One objectively true statement is that Bioware fans have never been happy, not even when they said they were happy.


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Ahh that isn't just BioWare fans or BSN members...

 

This is a global thing.

 

I can guarantee that these same arguments/debates will be repeated on other forums for different games.

 

Same with everything, really.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if people went into full on flame wars in knitting forums. "My needle is superior to yours." And so on.



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Ahh that isn't just BioWare fans or BSN members...

 

This is a global thing.

 

I can guarantee that these same arguments/debates will be repeated on other forums for different games.

 

Same with everything, really.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if people went into full on flame wars in knitting forums. "My needle is superior to yours." And so on.

 

At this point, in 2015, I would say without exaggeration or irony that gamers are the worst, and of that group, that Bioware fans are the worst.

 

And I spent 6 years on the WoW forums.


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Well.................. (tempted to say "sh*t, but I'll refrain).

 

This is worse than WoW forums, huh?

 

I guess that shouldn't surprise me. BioWare fans are very passionate... sweat graphs, romantic songs about game characters, etc.