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No, I love the series too much to let go. 



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With the growing distance the rules get more relaxed.

I guess that leaves us with the main character of the next game playing Spartacus with some Tevinter Slave Liberation Front.

 

No, the rules of the universe remain as far as what is and isn't possible. You are correct, however, that it does allow you to introduce new races or factions, for example.

 

There is absolutely no reason at all why the next game could not be set literally anywhere else in the Dragon Age universe.
It would still adhere to the rules of its setting and would still be canon. Maybe you would play a character who got shipwrecked and you had to get back, maybe you would play a Qunari, who's to say? Maybe a journey to the Sunless Lands, or into the north.
Just because it doesn't involve Thedas doesn't mean it wouldn't work. Bioware have created an entire world of which we have experienced a very small bit, there's loads of scope for more.

 

If it is too far removed and too much is changed then it loses all connection to the Dragon Age we know. Once that happens, it might as well be a new IP. You could be right but do we know enough about the places outside of Thedas for that to be compelling, especially considering how much there is going on in Thedas that many would like to see resolved? I'm sure some of what I have in mind was resolved in Inquisition, but I haven't played yet.

 

 

So it could be "Dragon Age: The Furry Fury"...?

 

Don't give Bioware ideas. We don't need any more stupid plots from them.



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Dragon Age will be going down in a few years, I'm just happy I've seen the future. The next game isn't even going to happen.


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Yes. Bioware is pretty much done IMO in the RPG genre. They need to scrap both ME and DA. Just move on to making full blown action games with a hint of RPG. Bet they could make ones similar to Prototype or Infamous.


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Dragon Age will be going down in a few years, I'm just happy I've seen the future. The next game isn't even going to happen.


Looks like someone's backslid from the anger stage to the denial stage.
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I don't really care either way. If they make another DA game, great. If not, that's good too. I want to see some new IPs from Bioware. I know they are working on one alongside DA, the new ME and that other game they are making. We'll see how that goes. Hopefully we'll get some new info soon.



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I don't think the amount of variables really makes any difference in Dragon Age's continued viability.  Perhaps it's an unpopular opinion, but I don't think that every choice I've ever made while playing the games needs to have an effect on subsequent titles.  Why does whether or not we returned Jogby's lockbox ever have to be mentioned again?

 

We've still only seen Ferelden, Orlais, and Kirkwall in the games.  That leaves, what?, four countries that we haven't ever set foot in, not counting the other prominent cities in the Free Marches or any Qunari-only lands.  There's plenty of fertile ground left in Thedas, in my opinion.  



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There are still stories to tell in Thedas. Not only other countries but uncharted parts of the maps that still hold mysteries.

 

Can't say the same about the ME franchise though. It would need a pretty good make-over to interest me again.



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Hilarious thread.

I love Dragon Age Inquisition.
I had Cancer - hated it!
Therefore, EA is not cancer.

(And if this post literally makes no sense, then it fits right in ;) )
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If by relaxed you mean that we've got less information about the places we're going to - leaving the devs open to come up with new ideas, or flesh out previous ones, then yeah sure. I'm still pretty sure that everything works the same in all places of Thedas, though, barring thinned-out veils and other such magical shenanigans.

 

I don't think we'll get to Par Vollen and suddenly find out that the qunari was secretly a race of blue-haired anthro kittens all along, though.

 

Pretty sure. Sort of. ;)

 

Why call it Dragon Age in the first place, the dragon age thing is chantry name - once you get outside chantry influence, the name loses any meaning. Get too far in the future and you are past the ninth age. Stay within the time period and souther chantry influence and they have to incorporate previous decisions.

As for magic, veil, fade etc., you can create game in the same universe even without those things and even the current setting allows some magic or magic-like abilities without the "magic" thing.

The local fauna and flora may be different in different parts of the world. As long as you dont encounter any horned guys or nugs, you are stuck with dragons, elves, dwarves and other common fantasy stuff. Oh wait, we can even have horn-less Qunari, who do not follow Qun.



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Why not? xD

 

Because its boring...



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Why call it Dragon Age in the first place, the dragon age thing is chantry name - once you get outside chantry influence, the name loses any meaning. Get too far in the future and you are past the ninth age. Stay within the time period and souther chantry influence and they have to incorporate previous decisions.

As for magic, veil, fade etc., you can create game in the same universe even without those things and even the current setting allows some magic or magic-like abilities without the "magic" thing.

The local fauna and flora may be different in different parts of the world. As long as you dont encounter any horned guys or nugs, you are stuck with dragons, elves, dwarves and other common fantasy stuff. Oh wait, we can even have horn-less Qunari, who do not follow Qun.

Because they decided to name their series "Dragon Age"? And all of the games in the series has been named thus? Just because the name, in-game, "loses its meaning" when you travel away from chantry influenced territory/into another age does not mean it loses its meaning for us. It's branding.

 

I wouldn't mind if Bioware started working on an additional IP, but I like Thedas and want to continue exploring it. Why ask for an IP that closely resembles DA but at the same time isn't DA? Why not ask for something entirely different instead?



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The person who's made this thread surely has some issues. 

Btw there's almost another 60 years to cover in Dragon Age. Many stories can be told. 

 

"Truth is not the end, but a beginning."



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Yes. Bioware is pretty much done IMO in the RPG genre. They need to scrap both ME and DA. Just move on to making full blown action games with a hint of RPG. Bet they could make ones similar to Prototype or Infamous.

Right, well if they do that they might as well sign their own death-warrents. The market already over-saturated with action games, the succsess of games like bravely default, divinity original sin, and witcher prove that the RPG is hardly dead.

And, a reputation built over years can crumble in an instant, the moment you lose sight of what made it succsessful in the first place.

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The person who made this thread certainly has issues. :lol: 

 

But the reason she(?) made it is because she was angered by the direction DA went in, wants to go back to Origins, etc. You know, same old story.

 

Personally, I wouldn't wanna see a repeat of Origins... just less focus on stunning visuals and filler fetch quests, more focus on story (make side quests actually count for something other than xp/influence) and maybe attempt to give the protagonist a resemblance to a personality.


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The person who made this thread certainly has issues. :lol:

 

But the reason she(?) made it is because she was angered by the direction DA went in, wants to go back to Origins, etc. You know, same old story.

 

Personally, I wouldn't wanna see a repeat of Origins... just less focus on stunning visuals and filler fetch quests, more focus on story (make side quests actually count for something other than xp/influence) and maybe attempt to give the protagonist a resemblance to a personality.

 

I'm curious, how would you like that to be done?



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They pulled it off with Hawke so... like that.

 

Having said that, I understand that many people didn't like it. Therefore, it probably won't happen again. :lol:



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Because they decided to name their series "Dragon Age"? And all of the games in the series has been named thus? Just because the name, in-game, "loses its meaning" when you travel away from chantry influenced territory/into another age does not mean it loses its meaning for us. It's branding.

 

I wouldn't mind if Bioware started working on an additional IP, but I like Thedas and want to continue exploring it. Why ask for an IP that closely resembles DA but at the same time isn't DA? Why not ask for something entirely different instead?

 

Right, and if CD Projekt ever loses the Witcher license, they may rename their games and EA may publish them as new Dragon Age.

 

The last time we got something different was the unlicensed DnD game series we are discussing now. Jade Empire was not particularly successful, sci-fi stuff is covered by Mass Effect and the rest ... well, there are not many other settings worth mentioning.



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Right, well if they do that they might as well sign their own death-warrents. The market already over-saturated with action games, the succsess of games like bravely default, divinity original sin, and witcher prove that the RPG is hardly dead.

And, a reputation built over years can crumble in an instant, the moment you lose sight of what made it succsessful in the first place.

Witcher? RPG? AUSHUAHSUHAUH
Again if anything with narrative is RPG then Saints Row is RPG
I don't understand why people here don't call Saints Row RPG... seriously... if the Witcher is then Saints Row is even more since you can create your character

These action games, Mass Effect included, are not RPG, they are action games with good (? not really) stories, just like Inquisiton.
Double Dragon from the 80's is as much RPG as these things since you had choices and ocasional talk with NPCs and cutscenes



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The person who made this thread certainly has issues. :lol:

 

But the reason she(?) made it is because she was angered by the direction DA went in, wants to go back to Origins, etc. You know, same old story.

 

Personally, I wouldn't wanna see a repeat of Origins... just less focus on stunning visuals and filler fetch quests, more focus on story (make side quests actually count for something other than xp/influence) and maybe attempt to give the protagonist a resemblance to a personality.

 

I for one like good visuals and despite the huge improvements, even DAI leaves lot to be desired.



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Exactly.

 

It's a lot of image and... little substance.

 

I would have been happy with a balance, even if that meant the graphics weren't as great.

 

I mean, remember Origins when it came out? That was shocking. :lol: yet...... people still mourn for it. People swear by it. But it probably had the worse graphics for its time...



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The person who made this thread certainly has issues. :lol:

But the reason she(?) made it is because she was angered by the direction DA went in, wants to go back to Origins, etc. You know, same old story.

Personally, I wouldn't wanna see a repeat of Origins... just less focus on stunning visuals and filler fetch quests, more focus on story (make side quests actually count for something other than xp/influence) and maybe attempt to give the protagonist a resemblance to a personality.

I agree with everything here, but lets be honest: the moment they give us a protagonist with a personality, it will be nothing but ' my character wouldent say tnat, or my character wouldn't do this, it ruined my immersion this, and ect.'

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LOL!!

 

I know.

 

But how's it any different from Inquisition, dialogue with jack sh*t personality?

 

I wanted to kill myself when "I will not yield" translated in-game, to "I'm a stuttering 14 year old girl." :lol:

 

Or those pick up lines.. look good on the wheel but the execution? Cheesy and embarrassing. That isn't how you pull the moves, man... If I used those in real life I would get laughed at and probably spat on.

 

Despite all of this... I prefer it to Origins dialogue (or lack thereof).

 

Anyway... sarcastic Hawke's personality matches mine to a T. Everything she said is pretty much everything I would say, in that situation.