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[Xralius]

I think their strategy will work in the short term, but eventually people will buy other games because they are better.

[Terodil]

Among the blind, a one-eyed can be king.

 

DA:I is not bad. But it's only just about so-so, which is decidedly less than what I expected/hoped for from Bioware.

 

Is it worthy of receiving all the 9-10/10 ratings it got? Hell, no. I cannot fathom how so many publications/blogs/... gave it such high marks. Wait... sadly, I can. I'm kinda willing to give some of them the benefit of the doubt (not playing on PC / playing ranged only / with controller only), but in reality, that's either spotty testing or deliberate omission. Neither of which is particularly flattering.

 

Is it worthy of receiving GOTY awards? Yeah. On the one hand, that's sad because seeing such a mediocre game receive GOTY awards does not inspire confidence in the future of RPGs. On the other hand, it's good because it may help sustain a genre that may otherwise die off altogether. But I'm sure glad DA:I received it instead of other titles (Shadow of Mordor) which are just glorified combat sims without any kind of soul.

[Bocochoco]

Dragon Age got awards for the same reason Shadows of Mordor did. 2014 was a weak year for AAA and when you have Destiny and Unity faceplanting all they had to do was show up.Dark Souls II released way too early in the year and Divinity Original Sin and Bayonetta 2 are on platforms no one cares about.

Inb4 evidence appears showing EA forced an early November release locking content just for this exact reason.

[Bocochoco]

I for one very much appreciate the fact that people are speaking their minds and giving their honest feedback to Bioware. It is the way it should be. When they are talking about desperately wanting change in many areas, well ... that is just honets I guess. Bioware on the other hand will do not much more than read all of this. Or rather have some intern read it for them! I have NO idea what will get changed ...
 

But I know on thing: The game cannot remain in THIS state!

Except posters are specifically requesting Bioware to CHANGE the game to make them happy rather than make it better. There should be no debate whether or not to make changes that are in fact central points of the game itself.
Change should be left for MP and fixes for SP as a general rule of thumb.

[Captain Wiseass]

Inb4 evidence appears showing EA forced an early November release locking content just for this exact reason.

Unlikely, given that the game released in mid-November.

[Terodil]

Except posters are specifically requesting Bioware to CHANGE the game to make them happy rather than make it better. There should be no debate whether or not to make changes that are in fact central points of the game itself.
Change should be left for MP and fixes for SP as a general rule of thumb.

You lost me here...

- I'd claim that many people consider a game better if they are happier. Where's the contradiction?
- What concerns refer to "central points of the game itself", and what concerns relate to... peripheral points?
- Change for MP only, fix for SP only? Eh? What's the difference, and why should SP be treated differently from MP, and vice versa?

[Bioware-Critic]

Except posters are specifically requesting Bioware to CHANGE the game to make them happy rather than make it better. There should be no debate whether or not to make changes that are in fact central points of the game itself.
Change should be left for MP and fixes for SP as a general rule of thumb.

 

I will not argue with you on that. You are right ...

But I think that the posters are not always that good at articulating themselves here on the forum. (For example, I am German and English is not my first language.) And when I see posts that are not really written in a civilized manner - I'll try to look past that attitude. If that is not possible I just go along I think what I think about them, anway. I also do think that NOT EVERYONE who is really wrapped-up in his emotional state and maybe feels the first flush of hatred/resentment (that will eventually mellow down) will express themself insuch an un-civilzed manner in every posting they make in the future!

 

I do not take all of what is written in such threads and postings for a face value. Many come in here straight after their first playthrough - full of emotions and with a thousand thoughts in their brain! It is "sensory-f*ucking-overload" all the way, for them

 

And I certainly do not blame them for venting their rage about their deep disappointment ...

 

But like I said, their behavior will mellow down eventually and many of them will engage in honest and civil discussion after a while. I am conviced of that. When they find people who talk to them and if forumites do respond to their postings personally and in a deliberate manner their behavior will change quite a bit

[SpiritMuse]

There's an even higher chance he's a paid shill

Because everyone who doesn't immediately believe EA/Bioware is teh evul can't be a real person. Naturally.

[I Miss Minsc]

This Metacritic Review is in No way suspect. Critic Reviews

1. Positive: 37 out of 42
2. Mixed: 5 out of 42
3. Negative: 0 out of 42

DarkStation

Nov 24, 2014

100

Despite some minor hiccups, Inquisition is absolutely the realest of deals, and should be missed at your own peril.

 

See the trailer

Metascore

85

Generally favorable reviews based on 42 Critics What's this?

 

 

User Score

5.8

Mixed or average reviewsbased on 2536 Ratings

 

[Bocochoco]

Unlikely, given that the game released in mid-November.

Please be exactly what your username implies

[Bocochoco]

Because everyone who doesn't immediately believe EA/Bioware is teh evul can't be a real person. Naturally.

Nah, I'm just saying that rather than believing someone might be playing the devils advocate that there is a much greater chance the person is a paid shill given the evidence

[otis0310]

2014 was indeed a weak year... there were a few noteworthy releases though, but overall i thought shadows of mordor would take home the title, being a new twist on the genre

 

2015 however is shaping up nicely, with stellar releases throughout the year from what i've seen so far

 

The best game of the year is prbably RedThread's Dreamfall Chapters, unfortunately being an Indie game most people don't count that.  However, since it is episodic and only the first part was released I can understand the philosophy that since the entire game wasn't released in 2014 it does not qualify.

 

With that one gone, we have very very few contendors for Game Of The Year indeed.  In fact the only other contendor is Sid Meier's Beyond Earth, which has several problems of its own.

 

But this year we will probably get the last part of Starcraft 2:Legacy of the Void, and that will be hard to contend with. Plus many other titles.

[Bocochoco]

You lost me here...- I'd claim that many people consider a game better if they are happier. Where's the contradiction?- What concerns refer to "central points of the game itself", and what concerns relate to... peripheral points?- Change for MP only, fix for SP only? Eh? What's the difference, and why should SP be treated differently from MP, and vice versa?

Because MP is designed to evolve whilst the SP is the finished product. Regarding central points I refer you back to my OP. It seems to be a Klein Bottle with you. I spent an hour on the phone yesterday with Comcast and even they eventually figured out what I meant.

I will not argue with you on that. You are right ...
But I think that the posters are not always that good at articulating themselves here on the forum. (For example, I am German and English is not my first language.) And when I see posts that are not really written in a civilized manner - I'll try to look past that attitude. If that is not possible I just go along I think what I think about them, anway. I also do think that NOT EVERYONE who is really wrapped-up in his emotional state and maybe feels the first flush of hatred/resentment (that will eventually mellow down) will express themself insuch an un-civilzed manner in every posting they make in the future!
 
I do not take all of what is written in such threads and postings for a face value. Many come in here straight after their first playthrough - full of emotions and with a thousand thoughts in their brain! It is "sensory-f*ucking-overload" all the way, for them
 
And I certainly do not blame them for venting their rage about their deep disappointment ...
 
But like I said, their behavior will mellow down eventually and many of them will engage in honest and civil discussion after a while. I am conviced of that. When they find people who talk to them and if forumites do respond to their postings personally and in a deliberate manner their behavior will change quite a bit

I hope you're right that all the sh*tposters are only here due to their need to vent as was the point of this thread originally anyways

[Bioware-Critic]

I hope you're right that all the sh*tposters are only here due to their need to vent as was the point of this thread originally anyways ...

 

Take a good long hard look in the mirror!

 

I was this way myself, when I stumbled in here - BELIEVE ME!

[rashie]

Inb4 evidence appears showing EA forced an early November release locking content just for this exact reason.

More likely its that they wanted the game out a while before The Witcher 3 arrives, which was originally set for a February release.

[fcedric]

Improving a good game to make good game a superb game is not changing entirely a game...

[Frenrihr]

Among the blind, a one-eyed can be king.

 

DA:I is not bad. But it's only just about so-so, which is decidedly less than what I expected/hoped for from Bioware.

 

Is it worthy of receiving all the 9-10/10 ratings it got? Hell, no. I cannot fathom how so many publications/blogs/... gave it such high marks. Wait... sadly, I can. I'm kinda willing to give some of them the benefit of the doubt (not playing on PC / playing ranged only / with controller only), but in reality, that's either spotty testing or deliberate omission. Neither of which is particularly flattering.

 

Is it worthy of receiving GOTY awards? Yeah. On the one hand, that's sad because seeing such a mediocre game receive GOTY awards does not inspire confidence in the future of RPGs. On the other hand, it's good because it may help sustain a genre that may otherwise die off altogether. But I'm sure glad DA:I received it instead of other titles (Shadow of Mordor) which are just glorified combat sims without any kind of soul.

 

Thing is, there is no way a fan of Bioware games that played DA:O and DA2 that will outlook the facts, all the ripped stuff, all the things that are missing, all the dumbing down etc, there is no way someonewill outlook that, only people that have started playing since DA:I.

[otis0310]

Thing is, there is no way a fan of Bioware games that played DA:O and DA2 that will outlook the facts, all the ripped stuff, all the things that are missing, all the dumbing down etc, there is no way someonewill outlook that, only people that have started playing since DA:I.

 

Because DA2 was rushed out., one tells oneself they did the best they could with what they had, and in time you can forgive it.  With DAI they basically gutted everything and went for an action game.  This is something that no fan of the series could ever ignore, you are right about that.

[fcedric]

More likely, there is something in real life named "Année fiscale" (Fiscal year), at the end of fiscal year, you send your declaration of taxes (earned income, outcome, miscellaneous expenses, etc...) to the government...

And there is also something in real life named Christmas, where peoples spend a lot of money...

 

I think they given us a unfinished game because they wanted to put this game on the market, before the end of the year... 

I don't think they wanted to put it on the market before The Witcher.. If yes, it is a big big big error, because us, fans of Bioware, fan of Dragon Age, would have bought Inquisition even if is put on the market after 3 other good games, or 3 month later... when you love, you pay...

 

On my side, i have buy Inquisition on PS3, and on PS4 (not even a discount or digital upgrade damned), and at the same time i have buy Far Cry 4, Call of duty AW, Battlefield, and i will buy The Witcher because i liked the Witcher 2...

If us player like a game, we will buy the next one, but a Dragon Age 3 should be based on Dragon Age story and mechanic, or it isn't a Dragon Age, give it another name... 

Probably Electronic Arts (EA) pushed them to finish quickly to earn money on their back (sur leur dos)...

I'm sure if EA could give some breath to Bioware, they will have the time to finish the game carefully, correct the bug, improve the gameplay and the f@#$ AI, add the fu#@$ damn thing named : Radial Spell menu, add another fu#@$ damn thing named tactics rows which permit to fine tune the comportment of your companions AI ...

 

No ? am i not right ? Seriously ? 

On my side, i do not mind of some small lack of functionalities, if we could have the game quickly, but only if they correct problems quickly after the release of the game... Like what they have done with ME3...

 

ME3 ending was pitiful, incomprehensible (that make us the ME Fans angry), the outcome of 3 Mass Effect in the hand of a little transparent child, which don't explain nothing maked the ME3 players angry against Bioware...

 

Many many players showed Bioware their discontent on the forum, thousand and thousand of angry players created topics to push Bioware to transform the end (give us more details about why reapers, why are they reaping the entire galaxy)... And Bioware listened us, listened the Mass Effect 3 Players and fans...

For ME3, they did not disappoint us... i can tell one thing, after Mass Effect 3 i gave my confidence to Bioware (eyes closed)... 

 

But really quickly, they corrected the problem...

- published a free DLC named extended ending

- published a pay dlc which taught us the origins of the reapers

- corrected many bugs

- improved the multiplayer by adding many many more characters and maps...

 

But one thing, in ME3 Bioware haven't removed functionnality which was included in ME1/ME2... they added more (more combos, more class, more powers, more dialogs, more story, etc...) 

 

Bioware with ME3 done a Fuc#@$ good job... They worked hard to make us happy... I thank them... 

 

But in DAI, they removed the functionalities which make a game Dragon Age... they removed the essence of the gameplay of what a Dragon Age is ... I just hope they will do like what they have done with Mass effect 3 and they will listen their first hour fans and correct those problems.. 

The most important problem (for me) that need a quick fix : 

- Radial spell menu have disappeared (this is a major bug - because we can't access all the spells, only 8 max)

- Ai isn't customizable now (no tactic rows)

- Us and AI are limited to 8 spells (if not mapped to controller button, you and the AI/IA will not  use those spells, even if set as favorite 

- the game is too easy (this afternoon finishing corypheus and his nug-pet took me less than 10 mn (in hard mode, lv24), and i reloaded a save, because the first time, i gone too fast, and it crashed the game

Do you remember how much time it took to finish the Archdemon in DAO, and Meredith in DA2 (more than 20/30 mn) ? 

Grrrrr Bioware why have you done this ? I'm angry against you, you have lost my confidence Bioware ... 

 

So DAI is a good game, if i need to note it as it i will give it a 14/20 (correct) but if they fix those problems i give DAI a 19/20...

 

What do you think about it ? Do you disagree with me ?

Am i wrong ? 

[Sartoz]

Edit: Sorry, my first version was a bit... brusque.

I just read stuff and post stuff that I hope Bioware takes to heart at some point, either in the form of game updates, or of DLCs, or of future game installments. I don't necessarily mind waiting for a bit, but I do think it's important to let Bioware know about issues that people are very happy or very unhappy with. I don't know what exactly you are taking exception at -- is it that people are posting at all, or that they have unrealistic expectations about the implementation of their suggestions?

A toughfull and clearly written Suggestions and/or Requests go a long way.  In other words, treat the devs with respect and they will look at your post.  Those S&R found to have value, won't impact other processes and can be done quickly will find themselves in a future patch.

 

Posting in a negative emotional way is a post they will ignore and rightly so.

[kaidanluv]

I highly doubt most people are wanting vast changes to be made in DAI itself. Whenever I read feedback, I see it as something constructive being said for what should happen with the franchise in the future. (An exception being small wishlists for DLC content or similar.)

[Spooky81]

Sure it'll change.  5 years from now we'll get Dragon of Duty: Advanced Theodosian Warfare and a Vita/DS release staring Isabela in Dragon's Creed: Black Flag.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

/only read the title

 

good.

 

also let's be fair

with all the bugs they have to fix

they basically have to build the game all over ;DD

 

there is not a single skill tree not bugged.

necromancer two handed and storm are 50% bugged or more 

rift mage for me is completely bugged since nothing ever gets weakness status on two game versions 

parts of winter and spirit are bugged

 

 

70% of all ability rings are bugged. 

[Terodil]

A toughfull and clearly written Suggestions and/or Requests go a long way.  In other words, treat the devs with respect and they will look at your post.  Those S&R found to have value, won't impact other processes and can be done quickly will find themselves in a future patch.

 

Posting in a negative emotional way is a post they will ignore and rightly so.

 

Agreed -- throwing **** at the devs is not going to help; it just feeds the bin.

 

Problem is, I get the feeling that even the excellent threads, that have had a lot of dedication, love, and work poured into them, feed the bin. Look at all those "collected feedback" threads, most of them with excellent summary OPs. Have we had any significant reaction to those? Why were they not pinned?

[Razir-Samus]

 

This Metacritic Review is in No way suspect. Critic Reviews

1. Positive: 37 out of 42
2. Mixed: 5 out of 42
3. Negative: 0 out of 42

DarkStation

Nov 24, 2014

100

Despite some minor hiccups, Inquisition is absolutely the realest of deals, and should be missed at your own peril.

Metascore

85

Generally favorable reviews based on 42 Critics What's this?

 

 

User Score

5.8

Mixed or average reviewsbased on 2536 Ratings

i felt a little ill reading some of those reviews... hailing it as biowares masterpiece, the next best rpg, a game that should not be missed... some giving it 100/100

 

this is bullshit. the user score is leagues more accurate and i feel it's only that high because the game looks good