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I'm tired of seeing a dozen posts a day asking Bioware to completely change a programmed design.
Bugs, asking for unfinished content and DLC suggestions are one thing but they are NOT going to change things like schematics and the crafting system, removing "boring" fetch quests, turn sad romance stories into happy ones, add plot decision points, add a radial dial due to balance issues, or make a new ending...wait that might actually happen
Seriously, completely changing the entire design of an already released game just isn't going to happen so unless your suggestions are for a future release or separately played DLC that doesn't sync with your main play file (eg; bioshock infinite burial at sea) then don't expect it to happen for DA:I

Do people honestly believe Bioware will completely change the game?

No, I believe hating makes the world a better place.


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Nah, I'm just saying that rather than believing someone might be playing the devils advocate that there is a much greater chance the person is a paid shill given the evidence


So if I said I also would like to see some evidence for these claims people are making about EA buying reviews, that would make me also a paid shill, rather than just someone who's not willing to accept wild claims without evidence?

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Bioware with ME3 done a Fuc#@$ good job... They worked hard to make us happy... I thank them... 

 

But in DAI, they removed the functionalities which make a game Dragon Age... they removed the essence of the gameplay of what a Dragon Age is ... I just hope they will do like what they have done with Mass effect 3 and they will listen their first hour fans and correct those problems.. 

The most important problem (for me) that need a quick fix : 

- Radial spell menu have disappeared (this is a major bug - because we can't access all the spells, only 8 max)

- Ai isn't customizable now (no tactic rows)

- Us and AI are limited to 8 spells (if not mapped to controller button, you and the AI/IA will not  use those spells, even if set as favorite 

- the game is too easy (this afternoon finishing corypheus and his nug-pet took me less than 10 mn (in hard mode, lv24), and i reloaded a save, because the first time, i gone too fast, and it crashed the game :)

Do you remember how much time it took to finish the Archdemon in DAO, and Meredith in DA2 (more than 20/30 mn) ? 

Grrrrr Bioware why have you done this ? I'm angry against you, you have lost my confidence Bioware ... 

Sky Horror in MotA, DA2 is the hardest of them all on Nightmare

 

If you don't burst him down to 75%, 50%, 25% health ( 3 phrases) in a few seconds, you're dead. And if somehow you managed the dps check, you will have to deal with elites mobs, and among them is a rogue... If he goes into stealth and you can't get him out of stealth, watch your tank drop in 1 hit. Oh and while you're taking care of the rogue and some other melees, 2 mages and a ranger are free casting on you, which if you cannot get their attention to the tank, everyone else would just die.

 

Took me 2 hours and some to finally beat them.


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So if I said I also would like to see some evidence for these claims people are making about EA buying reviews, that would make me also a paid shill, rather than just someone who's not willing to accept wild claims without evidence?

I already posted evidence guy.
Check it out in my earlier post in thread.
Irrefutable proof

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I already posted evidence guy.
Check it out in my earlier post in thread.
Irrefutable proof


That's some random article that doesn't even come close to saying what you think it says.

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I'm tired of seeing a dozen posts a day asking Bioware to completely change a programmed design.
Bugs, asking for unfinished content and DLC suggestions are one thing but they are NOT going to change things like schematics and the crafting system, removing "boring" fetch quests, turn sad romance stories into happy ones, add plot decision points, add a radial dial due to balance issues, or make a new ending...wait that might actually happen
Seriously, completely changing the entire design of an already released game just isn't going to happen so unless your suggestions are for a future release or separately played DLC that doesn't sync with your main play file (eg; bioshock infinite burial at sea) then don't expect it to happen for DA:I

Do people honestly believe Bioware will completely change the game?

 

 

Not to be nitpicky but if the system is properly modularized (low cohesion but high coupling type of arrangement), it could be changed. Not saying bioware are going to do it but just saying



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I already posted evidence guy.
Check it out in my earlier post in thread.
Irrefutable proof

  

That's some random article that doesn't even come close to saying what you think it says.


Exactly. That article is about how they have a bunch of community managers who are engaging the fan base. You know, like some of the mods on here. It has nothing to do with bought reviews of any kind.

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That's some random article that doesn't even come close to saying what you think it says.


Actually it's from the actual firm that lists EA as a client.
Confirmed for not going to the link

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Actually, assuming that companies do NOT try to manipulate reviews and public opinion with bogus forum/blog/... posters (= employees) is, sadly, more tin-foil-worthy than the opposite.

We know that government agencies do this. Russia in particular has been known to buy/plant people in social media to sway opinion on the internet; the British GCHQ has had plans revealed by E. Snowden that target the democratic sovereign for a massive manipulation of public opinion.

We know that Amazon/ebay reviews oftentimes stem from the products' producers, even if said marketplaces try their best to weed them out to safeguard what little credibility they have.

I bet you a virtual rainbow cupcake that a behemoth such as EA employs similar means. They'd be stupid not to.

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player review scors vs metacritc always are inrestign

 

just like me3



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player review scors vs metacritc always are inrestign

 

just like me3

i'm of the mind that mass effect 3 was different but still good... people thrashed ME3 solely on the ending... just like they thrashed DA2 because it "recycled" some areas



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player review scors vs metacritc always are inrestign

 

just like me3

Or DA2.

 

:rolleyes:



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Actually, assuming that companies do NOT try to manipulate reviews and public opinion with bogus forum/blog/... posters (= employees) is, sadly, more tin-foil-worthy than the opposite.We know that government agencies do this. Russia in particular has been known to buy/plant people in social media to sway opinion on the internet; the British GCHQ has had plans revealed by E. Snowden that target the democratic sovereign for a massive manipulation of public opinion.We know that Amazon/ebay reviews oftentimes stem from the products' producers, even if said marketplaces try their best to weed them out to safeguard what little credibility they have.I bet you a virtual rainbow cupcake that a behemoth such as EA employs similar means. They'd be stupid not to.


Now you're quoting facts that have admissions, physical evidence, and noticeable applications? What are you, some kind of crazy person?

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i'm of the mind that mass effect 3 was different but still good... people thrashed ME3 solely on the ending... just like they thrashed DA2 because it "recycled" some areas


Rightfully so it would seem

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Actually it's from the actual firm that lists EA as a client.
Confirmed for not going to the link

 

I did go to the link. It's a random article because it's unrelated to your point. 



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long story short

 

bioware used to make good games before EA was mouth breathing down their neck and making them insert multiplayer 

 

so yeah

 

a great company has been partly castrated above the eyebrows

a loss in creativity 



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World of Dragon Age: Turbo EX Tactical Potion Tent Edition



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Rightfully so it would seem

can you elaborate?



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The amount of people who actually think DA:I is THAT bad is amazing to me...so bad that they had to pay for reviews that give them an 8 or 9...well...wow..



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More likely, there is something in real life named "Année fiscale" (Fiscal year), at the end of fiscal year, you send your declaration of taxes (earned income, outcome, miscellaneous expenses, etc...) to the government...

And there is also something in real life named Christmas, where peoples spend a lot of money...

 

I think they given us a unfinished game because they wanted to put this game on the market, before the end of the year... 

I don't think they wanted to put it on the market before The Witcher.. If yes, it is a big big big error, because us, fans of Bioware, fan of Dragon Age, would have bought Inquisition even if is put on the market after 3 other good games, or 3 month later... when you love, you pay...

 

On my side, i have buy Inquisition on PS3, and on PS4 (not even a discount or digital upgrade damned), and at the same time i have buy Far Cry 4, Call of duty AW, Battlefield, and i will buy The Witcher because i liked the Witcher 2...

If us player like a game, we will buy the next one, but a Dragon Age 3 should be based on Dragon Age story and mechanic, or it isn't a Dragon Age, give it another name... 

Probably Electronic Arts (EA) pushed them to finish quickly to earn money on their back (sur leur dos)...

I'm sure if EA could give some breath to Bioware, they will have the time to finish the game carefully, correct the bug, improve the gameplay and the f@#$ AI, add the fu#@$ damn thing named : Radial Spell menu, add another fu#@$ damn thing named tactics rows which permit to fine tune the comportment of your companions AI ...

 

No ? am i not right ? Seriously ? 

On my side, i do not mind of some small lack of functionalities, if we could have the game quickly, but only if they correct problems quickly after the release of the game... Like what they have done with ME3...

 

ME3 ending was pitiful, incomprehensible (that make us the ME Fans angry), the outcome of 3 Mass Effect in the hand of a little transparent child, which don't explain nothing maked the ME3 players angry against Bioware...

 

Many many players showed Bioware their discontent on the forum, thousand and thousand of angry players created topics to push Bioware to transform the end (give us more details about why reapers, why are they reaping the entire galaxy)... And Bioware listened us, listened the Mass Effect 3 Players and fans...

For ME3, they did not disappoint us... i can tell one thing, after Mass Effect 3 i gave my confidence to Bioware (eyes closed)... 

 

But really quickly, they corrected the problem...

- published a free DLC named extended ending

- published a pay dlc which taught us the origins of the reapers

- corrected many bugs

- improved the multiplayer by adding many many more characters and maps...

 

But one thing, in ME3 Bioware haven't removed functionnality which was included in ME1/ME2... they added more (more combos, more class, more powers, more dialogs, more story, etc...) 

 

Bioware with ME3 done a Fuc#@$ good job... They worked hard to make us happy... I thank them... 

 

But in DAI, they removed the functionalities which make a game Dragon Age... they removed the essence of the gameplay of what a Dragon Age is ... I just hope they will do like what they have done with Mass effect 3 and they will listen their first hour fans and correct those problems.. 

The most important problem (for me) that need a quick fix : 

- Radial spell menu have disappeared (this is a major bug - because we can't access all the spells, only 8 max)

- Ai isn't customizable now (no tactic rows)

- Us and AI are limited to 8 spells (if not mapped to controller button, you and the AI/IA will not  use those spells, even if set as favorite 

- the game is too easy (this afternoon finishing corypheus and his nug-pet took me less than 10 mn (in hard mode, lv24), and i reloaded a save, because the first time, i gone too fast, and it crashed the game :)

Do you remember how much time it took to finish the Archdemon in DAO, and Meredith in DA2 (more than 20/30 mn) ? 

Grrrrr Bioware why have you done this ? I'm angry against you, you have lost my confidence Bioware ... 

 

So DAI is a good game, if i need to note it as it i will give it a 14/20 (correct) but if they fix those problems i give DAI a 19/20...

 

What do you think about it ? Do you disagree with me ?

Am i wrong ? 

yeah!!! i know the feeling mah friend!!!



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I'm tired of seeing a dozen posts a day asking Bioware to completely change a programmed design.
Bugs, asking for unfinished content and DLC suggestions are one thing but they are NOT going to change things like schematics and the crafting system, removing "boring" fetch quests, turn sad romance stories into happy ones, add plot decision points, add a radial dial due to balance issues, or make a new ending...wait that might actually happen
Seriously, completely changing the entire design of an already released game just isn't going to happen so unless your suggestions are for a future release or separately played DLC that doesn't sync with your main play file (eg; bioshock infinite burial at sea) then don't expect it to happen for DA:I

Do people honestly believe Bioware will completely change the game?

 

Oh well thank you so much for your feedback and instruction on what people should and shouldn't do....and you honestly think your little post is going to make the slightest difference? LOL. You must be quite naive.



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Sky Horror in MotA, DA2 is the hardest of them all on Nightmare

 

If you don't burst him down to 75%, 50%, 25% health ( 3 phrases) in a few seconds, you're dead. And if somehow you managed the dps check, you will have to deal with elites mobs, and among them is a rogue... If he goes into stealth and you can't get him out of stealth, watch your tank drop in 1 hit. Oh and while you're taking care of the rogue and some other melees, 2 mages and a ranger are free casting on you, which if you cannot get their attention to the tank, everyone else would just die.

 

Took me 2 hours and some to finally beat them.

Yes i remember it, damn boss...

But the wyvern and the duc was also hard to beat in nightmare, with the poison explosion... 
Hopefully i was play as mage, so it wasn' too difficult for me... 

Remember the boss in the thaig (the last one), this one was hard (particularly until we understand his working)? http://dragonage.wik...ent_rock_wraith

But Corypoilus and his pet ? let me laugh... it isn't a boss, it is just an elite enemy... 



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The amount of people who actually think DA:I is THAT bad is amazing to me...so bad that they had to pay for reviews that give them an 8 or 9...well...wow..

 

DA2 got top reviews all over the place when it came out too. Later on, after it was clear that the game was rather "lacking", and the fans got vocal about it, several gamesites lowered their scores for it.


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can you elaborate?


The reasons they thrashed on it. They were deserved

Oh well thank you so much for your feedback and instruction on what people should and shouldn't do....and you honestly think your little post is going to make the slightest difference? LOL. You must be quite naive.


Oh ho ho, thank you so much for contributing so nicely. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who feels that nothing will ever come out of these forums.

DA2 got top reviews all over the place when it came out too. Later on, after it was clear that the game was rather "lacking", and the fans got vocal about it, several gamesites lowered their scores for it.


People tend to support the new thing hence why American presidents tend to have amazing approval ratings at first and then slowly taper off until people realize they are full of it. EA are the used car salesman's of the videogame industry

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The reasons they thrashed on it. They were deserved

one reason is enough to **** all over the games? or maybe you didn't quite understand the severity behind the word "thrash"

 

irrational bitching