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[snackrat]

Listened to the Nerd Appropriate Podcast with Patrick Weekes in it the other day. Interesting note: the reason they decided to make a Solas romance was because they knew it would be depressing.

Seriously, listen to it. It also makes some of the stuff more heart-tugging in hindsight, like some of the stuff he almost says or does, and the reasons he has. Heavy spoilers in the podcast throughout. It also talks about mages/templars, The Iron Bull, and Cole.

 

In any case, I think that in a platonic relationship, Solas' story is done. Or more specifically, Inqi's part in his story is done. He's going off to do his own thing, so while I wouldn't necessarily call it resolved, Inqi has nothing more to do with him.

Solas had said from the very beginning he was there for the Breach, and then would skedaddle, especially since he didn't trust what the Inquisition might become. The reason it feels so unresolved is probably because of the romance content in particular.

 

In keeping with story/character, and the arc they are trying to portray, what WOULD 'closure' mean? He was about to confess himself, then changed to mentioning valasliin at the last moment, and broke away immediately after because he cares about Lavellan too much to trust himself with her. That IS the end. It's a shitty end, but there's 'closure'. It is made very clear where you stand. He doesn't say why he's leaving, but he doesn't for platonic Inqi either, and he has a real reason for that beyond 'writers didn't give closer, whoops'.

 

As for being made clear, the 'clear' part is probably about why he had to leave you. "Why did you leave me-- oh because you knew you had to run away I guess."

[Elsariel]

My Trevelyan is definitely not done with Solas. He's got some 'splainin to do!

[wildannie]

Listened to the Nerd Appropriate Podcast with Patrick Weekes in it the other day. Interesting note: the reason they decided to make a Solas romance was because they knew it would be depressing.

Seriously, listen to it. It also makes some of the stuff more heart-tugging in hindsight, like some of the stuff he almost says or does, and the reasons he has. Heavy spoilers in the podcast throughout. It also talks about mages/templars, The Iron Bull, and Cole.

 

In any case, I think that in a platonic relationship, Solas' story is done. Or more specifically, Inqi's part in his story is done. He's going off to do his own thing, so while I wouldn't necessarily call it resolved, Inqi has nothing more to do with him.

Solas had said from the very beginning he was there for the Breach, and then would skedaddle, especially since he didn't trust what the Inquisition might become. The reason it feels so unresolved is probably because of the romance content in particular.

 

In keeping with story/character, and the arc they are trying to portray, what WOULD 'closure' mean? He was about to confess himself, then changed to mentioning valasliin at the last moment, and broke away immediately after because he cares about Lavellan too much to trust himself with her. That IS the end. It's a shitty end, but there's 'closure'. It is made very clear where you stand. He doesn't say why he's leaving, but he doesn't for platonic Inqi either, and he has a real reason for that beyond 'writers didn't give closer, whoops'.

 

As for being made clear, the 'clear' part is probably about why he had to leave you. "Why did you leave me-- oh because you knew you had to run away I guess."

Nah,  I really don't think that any Inquisitor's relationship with Solas is done, whether an Inquisitor is comfortable with him having left or not.  It is strongly implied that he's going to do something, and I don't think that it is  something that is going to go unnoticed by the inquisition.   

There is no closure from the breakup and follow up conversations in the romance, he's simply shut Lavellan out, but it is clear that he does still love her... that's not closure.  If my partner pulled that on me, I'd be hugely worried and would feel the need to find out what the problem was, I wouldn't feel like I had closure.  Closure is 'I don't love you anymore, lets break up' 

[Winged Silver]

Nah,  I really don't think that any Inquisitor's relationship with Solas is done, whether an Inquisitor is comfortable with him having left or not.  It is strongly implied that he's going to do something, and I don't think that it is  something that is going to go unnoticed by the inquisition.   

There is no closure from the breakup and follow up conversations in the romance, he's simply shut Lavellan out, but it is clear that he does still love her... that's not closure.  If my partner pulled that on me, I'd be hugely worried and would feel the need to find out what the problem was, I wouldn't feel like I had closure.  Closure is 'I don't love you anymore, lets break up' 

Agreed. Like, when Morrigan left after the battle of Denerim, the major part of the story was totally over. The Blight (the big bad thing) had been defeated. In Inquisition, however, the enemy is a little less crystal clear, given that we don't know exactly what Solas' intentions were in giving the orb to Corypheus (maybe playing him and the Inquisitor off each other to charge the orb?). In this regard, it's a little harder to say all's well and done.

 

And I can't say I find the idea of churning out a new protagonist in the next game to deal with Solas particularly exciting...that new character won't have any history with Solas. There won't be the same context (or it'll be the same weird kind where our Hawkes or Inquisitor see people from Origins, but obviously can't interact with them as familiarly as we'd like). Or it's another repeat of "Solas joins your party and seems to be an okay guy! What, a potential antagonist you say! Preposterous! (oh damn)" which doesn't seem necessary. 

 

I suppose my final point at the moment would also be that between Solas and the Inquisitor (regardless of the relationship), not much really did get resolved. Sure, he says "I'll always respect you/what we had was real", but then he scampers off. I dunno about the rest of you, but I'd be hard core judging the intelligence of my Inquisitors if any of them were like "Alright see you later!" and didn't actually go look for him (cause he was suspicious. so so suspicious. and then the cut scene)

[snackrat]

I'm not really saying you get closure. I'm saying that the story is done. At least, for the Inq, certainly in DAI anyway. He's a set up for a future wild card (since Flemeth no longer fills that role).

 

As a character clearly they intend to do a lot more with him. As a person then yeah he did just straight up leave you, especially since the things mentioned in the podcast are never officially voiced.

 

But as a character arc, as written by Bioware specifically for DAI, the relevance Inqi and Solas have to each other is likely now a 'Keep decision'. It will have bearing in the future, but I don't think you should expect a wealth of content, because this was about setting him up.

 

It may just be like Hawke's LI is. You talk to Hawke, ask why they're alone, and they'll mention their LI and what they're doing, as well as why the LI didn't join them.

So, Inqi may mention Solas, or find a trace of him, or maybe he'd sent a letter in a later expansion/sequel, but I do not think he has more story specifically. People asking to 'finish' the story - it IS finished. It had a sequel hook ending, sure, but that's the story as it stands.

 

Also, as mentioned before, Solas romance is literally there because it is so delightfully depressing. The lack of closure contributes hugely to that.

[HTTP 404]

Probably more like "antagonist." A character whose goals and actions happen to conflict with the PC, but who is himself not necessarily evil or irredeemable.

 

If BioWare can let us oppose and depose Loghain but not execute him (and, in fact, make him a party member who survives past the game if we so choose), and let us spare the Architect so he can go on performing his dubious experiments, and let us spare Anders after he blows up the Chantry, we should be able to oppose or stop whatever terrible thing Solas might try to do, without having to kill him or banish him forever.

 

I'd love the chance to be able to forgive or redeem Solas when the time finally comes for the PC to learn what he intends, even if we have to oppose some or all of his plan first.

 

that's why I put quotes around "villian" because it isn't the right word.  I also like Loghain.  I like a good "villian" in my stories, one I can sympathize with.

[wildannie]

I'm not really saying you get closure. I'm saying that the story is done. At least, for the Inq, certainly in DAI anyway. He's a set up for a future wild card (since Flemeth no longer fills that role).

 

As a character clearly they intend to do a lot more with him. As a person then yeah he did just straight up leave you, especially since the things mentioned in the podcast are never officially voiced.

 

But as a character arc, as written by Bioware specifically for DAI, the relevance Inqi and Solas have to each other is likely now a 'Keep decision'. It will have bearing in the future, but I don't think you should expect a wealth of content, because this was about setting him up.

 

It may just be like Hawke's LI is. You talk to Hawke, ask why they're alone, and they'll mention their LI and what they're doing, as well as why the LI didn't join them.

So, Inqi may mention Solas, or find a trace of him, or maybe he'd sent a letter in a later expansion/sequel, but I do not think he has more story specifically. People asking to 'finish' the story - it IS finished. It had a sequel hook ending, sure, but that's the story as it stands.

 

Also, as mentioned before, Solas romance is literally there because it is so delightfully depressing. The lack of closure contributes hugely to that.

Solas being a future Flemeth like figure does not need to exclude him from future DAI content, there's no reason why it should... However, I don't think that is going to be the case...

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The design notes point more towards Morrigan fulfilling that role rather than Solas as Flemeth has passed on her godhood to Morrigan, Solas only took her power.  

I actually think it is likely that the power that Solas has taken from Flemeth is finite and once he uses it to do whatever it is he's going to do, he will be once more weakened, it is also possible that it will kill him, but I really hope that's not the only way

 

I didn't get any feeling of the story being done at all, there is plenty of scope for relevant DLC.  The blight for example - is a concern for everyone including Solas - few things get him as animated as his dislike of the Wardens, and he is clearly concerned about their plans to combat the blight). We have just created a massive and far reaching organisation and the plans and methods of the Wardens have been questioned.  Should the inquisition not be concerned by the idea that killing all the old gods might not end the blight?  That's a huge concern and getting to the bottom of what the blight is and finding a way to stop it is an obvious priority for the inquisition.  Ignoring the blight is akin to us ignoring all the global environmental and climate concerns while we fight wars and worry about interest rates... I want the inquisition to be better than that.

 

In the break up conversations it is clear that he's not breaking up because he doesn't care, it is clear that there is something else going on.  He will not tell the inquisitor  that he doesn't care, when pushed to do so he says that he can't, so it is never as simple as him just leaving.

 

Solas was made a LI to demonstrate how sad his situation/story is, this helps underline that he's a more sympathetic character.  It would have been hard to evoke this so well without the heartbreak, that does not mean it was done to make players sad as such - that is just the end product.  

 

'delightfully depressing'?  for me there is no such thing... it was beautifully written and the cinematics were fantastic but delightful? nope.  If the story gets some proper closure in DLC, it may become delightful but if it doesn't get any closure and all we get is what you suggest it will just become annoying.

 

I know many are hoping that the Inquisitor will be the protagonist in DA4, but I am not one of them.  I am really hoping for a new protagonist and ALL new companions.  I don't even want NPCs like Harding to become companions, I want characters I have never met before.  I'll be happy for some cameos, but really, a clean break would be nice and I'm sure I read that they will be moving away from Ferelden, Orlais etc so that will be a good opportunity for change.  

I have no interest in hanging on a major character cliffhanger for 3 years, I learnt that lesson after the wait for ME3.  I really hope that doesn't happen.

[BlueLynx]

It's like a book, if everything ends in a happy ending, what will you care about afterwards or have to look forward to.  The pain of the romance is the reason the romance is so well written and loved, because it's beautiful and tragic.    The only thing that will hurt from it all, is Bio staying silent to long about the subject, it needs to continue on in future content, the conflics need to be worked through little by little perhaps by the inquisitor and Solas's paths becoming crossed again in a new adventure.. we shall see

 

 

 

You pretty much summed it up HayleyDawn, I rushed through the content a little to quickly as well because of this reason...

 

I don't want to see the Solas story end/Romance, it should at least continue, even if it's in small painful pieces, as well as the inquision/inquisitor.  

 

Solas is one of the best characters Dragon Age has had and because of him I am obssessed with elven lore and have spent hours reading about elven lore and Solas as Fen'herel and what Solas plans to do(many theories)  etc..  I have not done this in the previous games as much as I am now.  but all in all I enjoy any story having to do with elves or elven people more so then the grey wardens and the other stories.

 

I also hope they fix the romance in the future, so you don't have to progress through the main story to progress your own relationship.. there is so much opportunity I see when I play through the game for this.. 

 

Solas cared for our levelan a great deal.. but I think the bond needs to be deepened for him to truly consider his actions.. or vice versa, in whatever is to come

 

also.. lol at shaving your BF's hair, that was funny.

[HayleyDawn]

Solas is one of the best characters Dragon Age has had and because of him I am obssessed with elven lore and have spent hours reading about elven lore and Solas as Fen'herel and what Solas plans to do(many theories)  etc..  I have not done this in the previous games as much as I am now.  but all in all I enjoy any story having to do with elves or elven people more so then the grey wardens and the other stories.

 

 

Me too. I've played through all the games multiple times, and he's the first character that really makes me interested in the lore. 

[Terodil]

Me too. I've played through all the games multiple times, and he's the first character that really makes me interested in the lore. 

 

That's fine, ofc... but I can't resist asking: and Flemeth didn't? I mean seriously, she was fantastically enigmatic in DA:O already, but her first appearance in DA:KW really made a shiver run down my spine...

[Biotic Flash Kick]

My Trevelyan is definitely not done with Solas. He's got some 'splainin to do!

my avaar still has to give solas a couple more punches 

[BlueLynx]

Does anyone remember cassandra and how she feels about swords and shields.. well then yeahhhhh.. I am pretty sure we can relate lol

[Bethgael]

I didn't read through the entire thread, so forgive me if this has been said--but when they do this DLC (and we know they will: Leliana even says in Big Spanking Words that she will keep looking for Solas), can they also please patch the Solas/elf Quizzy conversation at Mythal's Temple. Coming back to Solas telling my elf that he begged me not to drink the well was, frankly, annoying, because--no. No, he didn't. In fact, he gave me the distinct impression (albeit obliquely) that if the choice was between me and Morrigan.... well, me was better.

 

"One thing she [Morrigan] does have right is (paraphrase from here) someone should drink it." After having a go at Morrigan for her greed. And implying that the other stuff she says (ie, that she should drink) is wrong.

 

His writer has already indicated that Bio apparently cut lines (or lost them or something, maybe they don't trigger--this is hearsay), so they may already be ready to go.

 

So, DLC + Solas/elf/Mythal/elf romance patch would be lovely. Thanks Bioware.

 

(Also, the ability to actually officially "break up" once he's abandoned you would be nice. Otherwise it feels way too BellaTwilightCrying to me--for at least one of my elf girls, who would be happy to never see him again, considering. Another one would be "okay, explainy please and make it good" but would wait/look for him. But the first? Would happily put an arrow through him. She's... a bit angry ).

[Abelas Forever!]

I agree with the OP. Please gives us more Solas and give us a change to take him back! He has suffered so much and I believe he is even more broken when he has done whatever he has to do. I think he deserves some love after that and my Lavellan could give that to him. She could ease some of his pain and help him to recover. He doesn't have to live alone. So please gives us change to prevent that from happening!

[Felya87]

The more Solas, the better. If is "take him back and never let him go without permission" would be great. But more scene and dialogues with him would be appreciated. I was quite disappointed that he almost say nothing about being phisically into the fade. I was expecting at least a cinematic.

[Kulyok]

After the stinger, we got a huge discrepancy: I, the player, know he is Fen'Harel, but my character does not. Whether the Inquisitor romanced Solas, or was his friend, or just a companion, a confrontation seems almost warranted. Whether it's about "What are you doing?", "You lied to me!", "I know the truth, and I still love you", "Let me help you" or "I came to stop you" is another matter entirely.

[Abelas Forever!]

The more Solas, the better. If is "take him back and never let him go without permission" would be great. But more scene and dialogues with him would be appreciated. I was quite disappointed that he almost say nothing about being phisically into the fade. I was expecting at least a cinematic.

 

I would be happy if I could get a change to take Solas back like one scene would be enough. Even if it's hinted that the story with him is not finished I still fear that something bad will happen like the devs had plans that you would have a change to take him back but then for some reason they have to cut content so that will never happen. That would be horrible! Or that there really isn't going to be any change to get him because of the story reasons

[FLYSKY]

Solas is a great character and was always in my party, before I have finished through the game with my first character, male human I thought I will create a female elf character to romance him.
It was a bit sad to find out that he have left after finishing the game as I still would love to go on quests with him.
The first time I saw him he was very interesting, not just because most elves have long hair and he's bald, also because of how he is, what he say and so on.
I wish there will be a doc very soon for this