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[MiyuEmi]

I heard it during the 'flashbacks' and then when you go into the fade during the Nightmare.  Perhaps my game is bugged but she very calmly asks 'What's going on here?' in both instances.  Frustrating.  I never choose the American VA though, so I wonder if she's different.

[McPartyson]

Not a wheel troll, but I love how the female IQ walks into the room after hearing the Divine scream for help and calmly says...What's going on here?  At least the male voice actor had some level of urgency to his voice.

 

The "what's going on here?" line is terrible to begin with for either male or female. That's something I would say when i'm at a bar or party...not when some catastrophe is taking place.

[Gaz83]

 

"The British male voice actor sounds like a villain no matter how you play them"

 

Well thanks a lot, Hollywood. 

 

So we're all villains now? Bah! 

[Hathur]

If you think DA:I is bad as far as extreme, off-the-wall responses, you clearly haven't played DA2. Who stands next to a grieving man holding the body of his murdered son and says "well at least the day can't get any worse...it IS pretty late  "

 

Perhaps not as bad as sarcastic hawke... but.. inquisitor can be kinda inappropriate too heh

 

(Miniscule Vivienne and Solas spoilers)

 

 

and 

 

[Ogillardetta]

Thats nowhere near what you could say and do as hawke x) Boneless women etc etc.

Also on a side note the male american VA uses the most emotion of them all imo and british female least of all.

[Hathur]

Thats nowhere near what you could say and do as hawke x) Boneless women etc etc.

Also on a side note the male american VA uses the most emotion of them all imo and british female least of all.

 

True about Hawke, she / he has some fantastic lines as a charming / charismatic character. Some of the best lines are from DLC too, like these.. adds so much personality I wish the inquisitor had.

 

[zeypher]

Yeah, that's the completely incomprehensible part. It would solve the problem neatly in almost all cases, it shouldn't be too difficult to do, but somehow it appears to go against some design principle. Perhaps we should remind Bioware that we're not watching a movie, we are playing a character. Regardless of whether you're playing a defined character with very limited choices or a less defined character with more choices, not knowing what your lines are going to be is anathema to roleplaying. It's a stab at the very heart of the idea. Whatever they think they gain by this (and it's not as if I see any gain at all), it's not worth it.

Infact remind them to make stuff fun as it is a game, not a crappy movie. They keep trying to make my game a bloody movie.

[Nefla]

Perhaps not as bad as sarcastic hawke... but.. inquisitor can be kinda inappropriate too heh

 

(Miniscule Vivienne and Solas spoilers)

*snip*

 

and 

 

*snip*

lol gotta love how the dialogue option is nowhere close to what she actually says. Her saying "I don't know what to say" would actually have been appropriate. I think she delivered the line sincerely enough in the first one though that it didn't seem inappropriate.

[Joseph Warrick]

My general impression as I advance in the main plot is that the lines are much closer to the paraphrase this time. Usually the line will contain a sentence that's nearly identical to the paraphrase. For example, speaking with Cassandra about her family, one paraphrase is "so you're not on good terms". The actual spoken line is "so, not on very good terms with your family, then".

[Ieldra]

Also on a side note the male american VA uses the most emotion of them all imo and british female least of all.

??? There's nothing like the dry humor in the british female voice. It's not on sarcastic Hawke's level, but nice enough here and there. Mostly, exactly where I want it and nowhere else. Which is more than I can say about Hawke.

[Ogillardetta]

??? There's nothing like the dry humor in the british female voice. It's not on sarcastic Hawke's level, but nice enough here and there. Mostly, exactly where I want it and nowhere else. Which is more than I can say about Hawke.

Really cause I found her very bland and emotionless. 

[stonerbishop]

It can't get any worse...today. I mean, it's pretty late.

Hawke to the viscount right after his son died

[veeia]

Really cause I found her very bland and emotionless.

The British Va? Really? I thought she was wonderfully emotive, and the American one more wry. Both good, idk. I don't get the VA complaints. my British dwarf sounded more like a delightful Han Solo scoundrel (I mostly did the clever options with him) than a villain....

[AWTEW]

True about Hawke, she / he has some fantastic lines as a charming / charismatic character. Some of the best lines are from DLC too, like these.. adds so much personality I wish the inquisitor had.

Humerous Hawke is .

Really cause I found her very bland and emotionless.

Yeah, i found her the blandest out of the four. But they are all very bland, because of writing and direction. they have obviously been directed to sound neautral, so as not to upset hardcore head-cannon people.

So thanks too all the whinging about 'too fixed..my headcannon blah blah blah..dissconne ted blah blah blah' we are now stuck with the king/ queen of bland 'inquisitor'. The charming battle voice of the warden showed more humor/personality in one sentance, than the inquisitor did in an entire game.

[Duelist]

Still not as bad as Mass Effect.

Shepard: "I thought Asari needed other species to reproduce."

Me

[mademan2]

The dialogue wheel can work well in game like ME is. In flat our fantasy rpg like DA it should be done like it was in Origins, I always enjoyed the conversations most in origins, because all the options covered a wide variety of personalities and traits that you might have wanted for your character, thats what role play is about. Now i have to like imagine what my character is actually thinkin while saying some other stuff to make it work for me, instead of being actually able to say it ingame. I dunno maybe im spoiled but DA:O made it work like that. Just bring back more options, more questions etc, the dialogue wheel is really binding in this sort of thing. Not to mention, yes, it is very confusing sometimes to actually gues what the "short version" will play out to be.

[Fialka]

I much preferred the dialogue in Inquisition to DA2. I felt like once I picked a 'personality' for Hawke (none of which I was really a fan of to begin with) I couldn't really stray from it without sounding schizophrenic. In Inquisition, on the other hand, I could react to specific situations and people individually, and actually shape a character instead of feeling like I'm just steering along a puppet. The paraphrasing could be a bit better, but again, still an improvement over DA2. It was pretty rare that my Inquisitor said something so off that i had to reload. With Hawke it was frequent, and often I was just choosing the dialogue option that made me cringe the least... And don't even get me started on Hawke's 'romance' lines. Ugh.

So yeah, I'll take my inquisitor over Hawke, thanks. Where others might find her 'bland,' I find a character that lets me use my imagination to fill in the blanks. I did enjoy DA2, but Hawke was just Hawke. No room for role play or headcanon there.

[Ieldra]

I much preferred the dialogue in Inquisition to DA2. I felt like once I picked a 'personality' for Hawke (none of which I was really a fan of to begin with) I couldn't really stray from it without sounding schizophrenic. In Inquisition, on the other hand, I could react to specific situations and people individually, and actually shape a character instead of feeling like I'm just steering along a puppet. The paraphrasing could be a bit better, but again, still an improvement over DA2. It was pretty rare that my Inquisitor said something so off that i had to reload. With Hawke it was frequent, and often I was just choosing the dialogue option that made me cringe the least... And don't even get me started on Hawke's 'romance' lines. Ugh.

So yeah, I'll take my inquisitor over Hawke, thanks. Where others might find her 'bland,' I find a character that lets me use my imagination to fill in the blanks. I did enjoy DA2, but Hawke was just Hawke. No room for role play or headcanon there.

Same here. I love my sarcastic Hawkes, but I feel in DAI I can shape my character's personality somewhat instead of just selecting a personality, and where the lines aren't impactful enough, my imagination supplies the rest.

 

The lines themselves have almost all improved (I've reloaded many conversations so I know) but the paraphrasing is still a big problem. Example: "I'm not your chosen one" results in "You realize I'm a mage?". Not exactly inappropriate, mind you, but still that was not at all was this option was about. That sort of thing is very common. The spoken line is vaguely ok in the sense that my character might have said it, so I can stick with it, but it's still wildly different from anything the paraphrase suggests. It's common enough, I should mention, even where I don't have reason to think that they replaced a generic with a class-specific line without adapting the paraphrase to it as in the case I mentioned.

[AWTEW]

I much preferred the dialogue in Inquisition to DA2. I felt like once I picked a 'personality' for Hawke (none of which I was really a fan of to begin with) I couldn't really stray from it without sounding schizophrenic. In Inquisition, on the other hand, I could react to specific situations and people individually, and actually shape a character instead of feeling like I'm just steering along a puppet. The paraphrasing could be a bit better, but again, still an improvement over DA2. It was pretty rare that my Inquisitor said something so off that i had to reload. With Hawke it was frequent, and often I was just choosing the dialogue option that made me cringe the least... And don't even get me started on Hawke's 'romance' lines. Ugh.
So yeah, I'll take my inquisitor over Hawke, thanks. Where others might find her 'bland,' I find a character that lets me use my imagination to fill in the blanks. I did enjoy DA2, but Hawke was just Hawke. No room for role play or headcanon there.

There was plenty of room for headcannon with Hawke, Peoples hawkes are so different and varied if you look at Art and fanfiction. People write and head-cannon for established characters all the time, in every fandom so this whole 'hawke is just hawke.. is nonsense.'

[zeypher]

Hawke is definitely better than beige inquisitor. 

[Ieldra]

It's good that we have the CheatEngine script to make them other than beige then (Though, hey Bioware, this really needs to be patched!)

 

In anything else, I prefer my Inquisitor. I like my Hawkes, but Hawke is too defined IMO. The personality choice dominates everything to the point that they appear schizophrenic if you want to vary your behaviour dependent on the situation.