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Moonwalker1982

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So i am almost level 16 now and yesterday i killed the dragon in Crestwood. It was definitely a challenge, but we did it. After that i went to Hinterlands and tried to kill the dragon there, but even though i managed to drain half of his health...we all died.

1- So today i decided to make good preparations. I created a dragon slaying rune and put it on my Mace, this gives it +20 damage vs dragons. Since the dragon is vurnerable to frost, i gave Varric frost arrows and the other two teammates had equipment that did plenty DPS. All this effort seemed for nothing, cause for some reason the dragon's health drained MUCH slower than yesterday, and now i was using a weapon with a dragon slaying rune on it and yesterday it was a sword with nothing on it. Neither did the frost weapons seem to do that much damage. What was going on here? I totally expected to notice a big difference, especially with that rune.
 
In this fight it was me, my one handed warrior dwarf, Varric, Viviene and Dorian. Especially the mages kept dying quite often and Varric right at the start of the fight, so i had to revive him. I think i could do with some advice, cause for normal fights..no problems, but the dragons so far..whole different story.

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Dagna in Skyhold. She tells me she can do Masterwork weapons and armor and enchanting. I checked out if there were new options and indeed..Masterwork is there when creating new equipment. But what about enchanting? Where do i find the new options for that?


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Natarsi

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I'm not sure what you did differently, but personally the first thing 'I' check is not 'how to do more damage' but 'how to avoid damage'.

Each Dragon usually has an elemental weakness. The opposite is usually their 'strenght' aka 'elemental based attack'.

 

So first things first, equip your party with rings or belts or craft armor with elemental resistances.

 

Next: Make sure your potions are full (Don't forget: Your party members may share the health potions, but the other slots you have to manually fill on for each character on the 'equip potions' table and refill each time after use at the table, by clicking at the potion).

 

Then: the weakness based weapons help.

 

 

Also, while each dragon tends to have a certain behaviour, it does not necessarily mean it always does the same. Sometimes they fly around more, sometimes they call for help more often (don't underestimate the little beasts the Hinterland dragon and some others get - better get rid of them ASAP).

 

Then: Your mages: Vivienne running at the dragons is ok as knight enchanter. All other mages wanting to get within cuddling distance is good for the dragon, bad for their health bar. Keep an eye on them.

If you aren't partly controlling them yourself, you might want to check their behaviour and change what spells they are most likely to use according to the opponent.

Also make sure they have staffs with the element of the enemies weakness equiped! That does wonders, especially for when they cast this barrier onto themselves.

 

And I guess this goes without saying, but... Do avoid the dragon attacks? Be it fire blast, tail swipe or whatever. Also running away from the dragon when he pulls you is also a good idea ;P

And skill points: Make sure you've spent them all.

 

If all doesn't help, you might be better off controlling Viviane, blasting the dragon appart with ice spells, setting ice mines and ice walls. Alternately, try a different group constellation?

 

 

What do you mean with enchanting?

If you are talking about pimping you current armor, you need to check for arm and leg guard equipment to enhance your current armor - if the current armor has slots for that. Self-crafted usually do.


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moxiegraphix

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In addition to the above on the armor, legs and arm pieces are great places to add elemental resists. Most equipment has slots too that can be added. You can craft them if you have the schematics but a couple shops sell some of the slots. It can really help. If you are using Varric, make sure you've upgraded Bianca as well. If Viv i far enough into the KE tree, make sure to use her focus ability to help with injuries. 

 

I really miss some of the tactics options from previous games. It was a lot easier to make people stay at ranged who should be staying at ranged than it is now (Unless I've missed an option somewhere). It's also helpful to make sure they attack the same thing you're attacking. For the dragons, I tend to focus on one leg at a time and tell my party to attack what I'm targetting.


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The Hinterlands dragon is the only one I beat, so I'm by no means an expert. I did it with a Solas who uses mostly ice, a Necromancer (which was useless, but she had an ice staff), Cass, and I.B.

I noticed that just before dragon did the wing attack (so you gotta keep an eye out), it's best to make your mages run in instead of being pulled in. While there, have one throw a healing mist grenade down (since you'll probably be hurting, and the wing attack jumbles you all together so it's a win situation.) It also seems to hurt them less than being dragged over. Then, have the mages run away again. Unfortunately, you're gonna have to babysit your squishy characters and keep telling them to run away. Atleast, I had to.

Have your non-tanks kill the babies IMMEDIATELY.

I had Solas and the Inq equipped with healing mist grenades. Cassandra and Bull had regen potions. All in addition to the usual shared, 8 potion limit. If you can, upgrade your regen potions as much as possible (something I didn't do D:). I only used regen potions when they have guard up and/or shields up + their health is low. All my potions were gone by the end.

Those are my tips! :D

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DarkAmaranth1966

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Then there is the "I'm a kick arse mage and, I'm gonna solo that Highland Ravager [and Hyvernal and, Kalten too.] because I can at level 15+." thing you could do. Need a KE in heavy Armor (need silverite for that.) with at least barrier, fade step, Immolate, Ice blast. Electric or spirit damage staff and, rune to give the other on that staff. Best if you used a masterworks item to give you guard on the armor, or one to automate fade step.

 

Oh those poor dragons when my little Dalish mage finds them LOL. He romanced Bull and, he's learned to love roasted dragon loin. :P



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Kalshane

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Enchanting is just putting runes on weapons. There's nothing more involved than that.

 

One other point on top of other people's advice, when the dragon pulls everyone together, have your mage drop a Barrier on everyone before you all run back out.

 

The Hinterlands dragon was the first one I fought (at level 12) and I ended up burning through all my healing and regeneraton potions and still had everyone barely standing when I was done. All the other dragons have been tough, but significantly easier. I don't know if it's me getting better at fighting them, better gear/abilities or both.