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Elder One's identity.....really? (Spoilers)


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Seriously? Corypheus again?

 

I mean, It's nice to see BW trying to tie in the story of DA:O and DA2, but I feel they got lazy here.

We saw him battling Hawke in Legacy dlc. We saw him die. The way they introduced him as elder one seems kind of a poor excuse


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its easy to see in DA2 that Corypheus possessed the warden with you, his plotline was not resolved


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Pay attention to your warden helper during the legacy dlc after you "Beat" Cory its even on youtube to save you playing it again. 



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It's not that they got lazy, it's that it was probably a mistake to have revealed him in DA2 first, and especially since you could fight him and win (yes I know that you don't kill him and that it's pretty obvious that something's not right after but you still win the fight). His reveal felt really lackluster that way, especially since the 'Elder one' is built up to be this big thing so when you actually see Corypheus and not someone new and exciting it's just...oh.


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Would've been cooler if he brought Dumat back somehow (as the lyrium dragon) and that dragon was controlling him, not the other way around.


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I've found he is much more interesting if you're siding with the Templars and such.

Those missions involving Calpernia are great :)

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I swear if i hear dumat one more time XD

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I swear if i hear dumat one more time XD

 

 

 

DUMAT

 

 

 

 

Post up, ******, post up! Come at me, bro!


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He should have awoken Dumat and been the lacky instead of the main bad guy becuase he did not feel threatening.
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He should have awoken Dumat and been the lacky instead of the main bad guy becuase he did not feel threatening.

Dumat is either dead or in some mortal being (depending on wheter Andraste was in fact an OGB)



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Ryriena

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I actually laughed becuase we stopped him so many times from his main goal of opening a rift to become a god or whatever. I kind of wished he was just a side quest and we got too talk to him about his adventure in to the fade and his discovery, and also learn the Ventiori are helping Dumat by awkening him. And Solas aka the dreaded wolf plans to stop him from destroying his work and joins the inquisition to stop him. That would make more sense as to why he does not seem threatening.
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I dunno, I mean it didn't hit me as a HUGE CRAZY REVEAL when I saw Corypheus, but at the same time I was kinda excited and pleased I'd been correct in suspecting my Warden helper in DA2. 

 

Indeed, if anything, I'm somewhat pleased they did make him the figurehead bad guy here who may or may not have been used by someone else...

 

Cause despite him possibly just being used, he still was set up as one of the most powerful figures in Thedasian history as one of the magisters who entered the Black City, so it feels more right to me that it would take an entire game to defeat him, rather than just some DLC (cause let's be real, why on earth would Hawke be that much stronger than the wardens? If Hawke could've defeated Cory permanently, you'd think at least one warden in the past might've as well)


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Dumat is either dead or in some mortal being (depending on wheter Andraste was in fact an OGB)



Ok they still could have had him being controled by him though this mortal being and I doubt Andraste was an OGB.

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DUMAT
 
 
 

 
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killa you legit
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:lol: You too, my dude.


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:lol: You too, my dude.

thank you i aim to please... and make jokes

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I just thought it was not a great idea bringing a guy who was from a DLC of a game that was not well received by many fans.


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Mixed feelings:  

 

It was obvious to me we would see him again.  

 

I think he was fine as the Big Bad for DA I, at least in theory, but I really wanted him to be a lieutenant.  Maybe even for the big bad for DA 4.  Either way works, but I wonder.  

 

Even as the Big Bad in Inquisition it seems he had wasted potential.  Again, fine, and I do not think I dislike it as most people, but could have been a lot better.  In Legacy he was so compelling and such a lore bomb, the accent, the confusion, and the sense of something terrible waking up.  It would have been a great opprotunity to examine two of the more fascinating aspects of DA lore, to me.  But...didn't really happen.  

 

It could have been a great examination of faith and conflicts between religions, and they touched on it.  But could have really gone into it much more in depth, I feel.  



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DA:I was originally going to be the exalted march dlc (or at least parts of it were) and the inquisitor was originally going to be Hawke. Corypheus would have made a lot more sense as the main villain if that had remained the case.
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I was glad to see Corypheus as the villain, really. For one thing, it was obvious in Legacy that he had possessed Larius (or the other one, I expect, though I didn't actually play it that way) -- obvious enough that many people thought so, and I was surely fairly convinced of it immediately after having played Legacy. For another thing, he seemed too interesting and powerful to just be a one-off DLC villain.

Could there have been somewhat more done with him? Yes, perhaps. We can't be certain that there won't be in the future, but even if not, I think that overall he was a good villain for DA:I. His goals were lofty, he certainly needed to be stopped, and it touched on most of the things that I find most interesting about the setting (the main plot, in general, did that).

So yeah. All in all, I'd say I'm quite satisfied with Corypheus' role in DA:I.
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Mixed feelings:  

 

It was obvious to me we would see him again.  

 

I think he was fine as the Big Bad for DA I, at least in theory, but I really wanted him to be a lieutenant.  Maybe even for the big bad for DA 4.  Either way works, but I wonder.  

 

Even as the Big Bad in Inquisition it seems he had wasted potential.  Again, fine, and I do not think I dislike it as most people, but could have been a lot better.  In Legacy he was so compelling and such a lore bomb, the accent, the confusion, and the sense of something terrible waking up.  It would have been a great opprotunity to examine two of the more fascinating aspects of DA lore, to me.  But...didn't really happen.  

 

It could have been a great examination of faith and conflicts between religions, and they touched on it.  But could have really gone into it much more in depth, I feel.  

They might still be able to salvage some of what you're saying. If indeed, he was something of a figurehead for a greater power/being used (which is my suspicion given the after credits reveal), then that sort of implies that whatever is using him is even more powerful - more powerful than a mortal who encroached upon the Black City. I do think the implications of that could allow for some more examinations in the conflicts of the various religions between all the races.



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I never knew him or played DA2 base game or DLC. His introduction in haven was great, but after that it was just downhill from there.

I hear whispers on the forum that he was a better villain in the DA2 Dlc. Is this true?

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I never knew him or played DA2 base game or DLC. His introduction in haven was great, but after that it was just downhill from there.

I hear whispers on the forum that he was a better villain in the DA2 Dlc. Is this true?

Better villain?  I didn't think so, but he had a much better boss fight.  He made you earn your victory, unlike in DA:I where you play "Tag" with him.



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We didn't see him die - if you actually pay attention, it's kind of clear that he didn't die and that he did, in fact, jump bodies at the end of Legacy. I absolutely remembered the look on the surviving Warden's face at the end of Legacy, and I remember my reaction being something like "uh-oh..." So, I wasn't particularly surprised that he came back because it's obvious that they had something planned. It's not lazy or poor writing, etc. if that's what you're implying.


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Dumat is either dead or in some mortal being (depending on wheter Andraste was in fact an OGB)

Well it wouldn't be the first time she's been wrong, but Morrigan does say if you do the Dark Ritual you will be the first ever Grey Warden to kill the Archdemon and live.
What would help to confirm this is if we knew who it was to had slain Dumat in the Silent Plains and if they has a tomb at Weisshaupt. Alistair claims those that have slain the previous Archdemons have tombs there but Idk if he says anything specific "Last 4" or w/e as to numbers.