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[Bi_Winning]

What choices do I need to make throughout the game to put Leliana on the throne?

[MostlyAutumn]

Ally with mages, support Briala so that she rules through Gaspard, don't banish the Wardens, say "I'll do it because it's right." when you're declared the Inquisitor.

 

Allying with the mages is the most important point.

[QweenBeen]

And I think in every conversation you have to say you support mage freedom. I did it unintentionally but luckily my lelianna wasn't hardened, so she was okay as a divine, if a little too radical

[katerinafm]

Why does that dialogue option

 

 say "I'll do it because it's right." when you're declared the Inquisitor.

 

 

 

actually matter? You have a bunch of dialogue options in that point, and it seems an odd thing to influence who becomes divine later.

[ElementalFury106]

When choosing Main Story quest decisions:

 

-Ally with the Mages <-- most important.

**ALTERNATIVELY: If you wish to do the Templars quest instead, disband them. It doesn't help as much as allying with the Mages, but she still approves.

-Ally with the Grey Wardens, do not banish them.

-Ascend Briala to become the de-facto ruler of Orlais through Gaspard.

 

When choosing conversational options:

 

-When speaking with Vivienne immediately after you recruit her, say "Mages need their freedom."

-When speaking to Cassandra about her views/frustrations about the Chantry, say "The Chantry needs to change"

-When speaking to Vivienne post Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts quest about who should be the next Divine, choose the option "What about Leliana?"

-When speaking to Leliana after her personal quest, openly pledge your support for her becoming Divine.

 

Mind you I am paraphrasing but you should definitely take into account these options if you want Leliana to become Divine. Remember, conversational options are just as important as the main story ones.

 

Also remember, the absolute most important decision you can make if you want Leliana to become Divine is allying with the Mages at Redcliffe. 

[MostlyAutumn]

Why does that dialogue option
 
 
actually matter? You have a bunch of dialogue options in that point, and it seems an odd thing to influence who becomes divine later.

The mechanics are explained here: http://dragonage.wik...Divine_election
(I'm the one who made the page, it will be expanded in the near future.)

[ElementalFury106]

The mechanics are explained here: http://dragonage.wik...Divine_election
(I'm the one who made the page, it will be expanded in the near future.)

 

One issue with your page, Cassandra disapproves of disbanding the Templars. How could that elevate her rise to Divine?

[MostlyAutumn]

One issue with your page, Cassandra disapproves of disbanding the Templars. How could that elevate her rise to Divine?

Absolute numbers are irrelevant. It could've been Leliana -9, Cassandra -5, Vivienne -15 and the end result would be exactly the same.

[ElementalFury106]

Absolute numbers are irrelevant. It could've been Leliana -9, Cassandra -5, Vivienne -15 and the end result would be exactly the same.

 

I don't mean the numbers are off. I'm saying that it can't be right for the disbanding of the Templars to elevate Cassandra in any positive way towards becoming Divine. If a decision doesn't compliment the character's ideals, it doesn't elevate them in the competition.

 

Because Cassandra disapproves of the act, it should garner negative points towards her Divine status, not positive.

[Mann42]

I don't mean the numbers are off. I'm saying that it can't be right for the disbanding of the Templars to elevate Cassandra in any positive way towards becoming Divine. If a decision doesn't compliment the character's ideals, it doesn't elevate them in the competition.

 

Because Cassandra disapproves of the act, it should garner negative points towards her Divine status, not positive.

I think in that instance, her approval has nothing to do with it compared to the actual consequences.

 

The Templar Order saved, even if disbanded, still provides a stronger block of supporters for Cassandra as Divine, since the Mages will appear evil (having been absorbed into the Venetari) and there are a larger number of Chantry supporters alive (the disbanded Templar) that would back her.

 

At least, that's how I interpret it.

[Johnsen1972]

[ElementalFury106]

I think in that instance, her approval has nothing to do with it compared to the actual consequences.

 

The Templar Order saved, even if disbanded, still provides a stronger block of supporters for Cassandra as Divine, since the Mages will appear evil (having been absorbed into the Venetari) and there are a larger number of Chantry supporters alive (the disbanded Templar) that would back her.

 

At least, that's how I interpret it.

 

Hm. I wish there was more official info on this. Even ME2's Suicide Mission had more concrete information.

 

The way I see it in regards to the Mages and Templars, this is how each Divine candidate views it in order from most favorable to least (which of course also translates to most support to least support):

 

Cassandra

-Ally with the Templars (most support)

-Conscript the Mages (moderate support)

-Disband the Templars (less support)

-Ally with the Mages (least amount of support)

 

Leliana

-Ally with the Mages (most support)

-Disband the Templars (moderate support)

-Ally with the Templars (less support)

-Conscript the Mages (least amount of support)

 

Vivienne

-Conscript the Mages (most support)

-Ally with the Templars (moderate support)

-Disband the Templars (less support)

-Ally with the Mages (least amount of support)

[Daerog]

http://forum.bioware...rst-post-12314/

 

This thread also explores what different people did to get a certain Divine.

[MostlyAutumn]

I'm saying that it can't be right for the disbanding of the Templars to elevate Cassandra in any positive way towards becoming Divine. If a decision doesn't compliment the character's ideals, it doesn't elevate them in the competition.
 
Because Cassandra disapproves of the act, it should garner negative points towards her Divine status, not positive.

Why wouldn't it elevate Cassandra? Vivienne is a mage, Leliana is pro-mage, and mages are now serving Corypheus. Are you saying that this should make Leliana or Vivienne more popular than Cassandra? It would make no sense.