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[wolfhowwl]

Nah, I like that 25% discount.

[TheChris92]

There'll always be that one title, or that one release I didn't expect or knew I wanted until I found out that I did -- Some of those are worth a pre-order, but I've never really pre-ordered games blindly without doing my homework as to whether I feel the subject matter is at least worth the investment. At the moment, there are only a few new games I'm incredibly excited about, where I consider the use of the pre-order option, whereas the rest are either old titles or remastered re-releases..

 

At best, I'm seeing myself avoid buying games on Steam any more, as opposed to Gog.com due to the DRM circumstances and I kinda prefer actually owning my games, but that's a different matter altogether.

[SlottsMachine]

I have to pre-order, how could anyone possibly play Fallout New Vegas without a canteen? Do you want us to die of dehydration?

[Wires_From_The_Wall]

but I've never really pre-ordered games blindly without doing my homework as to whether I feel the subject matter is at least worth the investment.

 

 

 

 

Except you can't really do your homework properly; your school books are filled with shameless, blatant  lies and intentional misleading. There is no such thing as responsible pre-orderer!

 

Stop pre-ordering your games.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Oh god.

It really is the same thread over and over again.

 

By the same damn guy no less.

[wolfhowwl]

I'm preordering Bloodborne and there is nothing anyone can do to stop me!

[SlottsMachine]

It's included in the Game of the Year version.

 

That's what I thought. The canteen is basically useless though.

[Gravisanimi]

Except you can't really do your homework properly; your school books are filled with shameless, blatant  lies and intentional misleading. There is no such thing as responsible pre-orderer!

 

Stop pre-ordering your games.

No, same thread, same comment

*goes to preorder 3 different games*

 

I know these games, they are done, they are being localized.

 

There are no absolutes, as a society, we have to stop making binary rules about things we need to use common sense and judgement on.

 

Everytime I'm told to stop preordering games I will pre-order 3 more JRPG's.

 

Don't make me pre-order Criminal Girls!

[NeonFlux117]

You don't even need pre-orders, FYI pre-orders became a thing when HALO 2 was released. See, if you didn't pre order HALO 2 back in the day (2004) you didn't get your copy for weeks or even months. But now with digital distribution and improved disc making and overall improved linguistics of actually making a physical copy of a game, pre-orders are very unnecessary. I didn't even pre-order GTA5 back in 2013 and I got the game without an issue at launch day. So..... Yeah, they're useless and your handing free cash to a dev and product you know nothing about or have yet to even experience or yet to even own. 

[Vroom Vroom]

Oh god.

It really is the same thread over and over again.

 

By the same damn guy no less.

I guess that you could say that he *pauses and puts on sunglasses*

 

Cloned it.

 

Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah!  

[chris2365]

 

Since this is a BioWare forum, it is worth mentionng that DA:I is a very positive exception in this trend, say about the game what you will, the fact that there is no DLC announced yet is a good thing IMO.

 

Yet on the other hand, you have people complaining that Bioware is lazy since their patching is slow and there is no single-player DLC in sight. You can't really ever win with this fanbase 

 

I agree with the video though. I've only ever pre-ordered twice: once for ME3's collector's edition (no way I was missing out on that  ) and DAI (though that was a gift from a family member, and from what I gathered it seems rather polished and complete, especially compared to games like Unity that released just the week before.)

 

Unfortunately, these days publishers will just hope that the people who do have issues with their game don't complain loud enough and give the game bad word of month. I'm glad in a way, because 2014 was the year where we had massive letdowns, disappointments and overall, incomplete and rushed products. And for the first time, the majority of gamers took notice and complained. Companies like Ubisoft now feel the pain of having to give away free games and DLC as an apology. And EA delayed both DAI and Battlefield Hardline to ensure quality. 

 

While I am not saying things will change overnight, at least now the consumers and devs now know what the bigger picture and long-term implications are of these pre-order and ''rushing games out the door'' practices, and maybe this will lead to change.

[Liamv2]

I guess that you could say that he *pauses and puts on sunglasses*

 

Cloned it.

 

Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah!  

 

[Vroom Vroom]

You don't even need pre-orders, FYI pre-orders became a thing when HALO 2 was released. See, if you didn't pre order HALO 2 back in the day (2004) you didn't get your copy for weeks or even months. But now with digital distribution and improved disc making and overall improved linguistics of actually making a physical copy of a game, pre-orders are very unnecessary. I didn't even pre-order GTA5 back in 2013 and I got the game without an issue at launch day. So..... Yeah, they're useless and your handing free cash to a dev and product you know nothing about or have yet to even experience or yet to even own. 

Ironically, Grand Theft Auto V is the only thing that I have ever pre-ordered, because I was worried that my local store would run out.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Oh, I thought this was a bumping of the old thread?

 

This is a new thread?

 

Get some new material, OP.

 

Personally, I'd rather keep my shekels and wait for a sale, thanks.

 

That said, it's not like games have always been well polished and that it's gone to **** recently. RPGs happen to be one of the worst genres for it, games like Fallout and Arcanum were filled with bugs, Skyrim is probably Bethesda's most stable Elder Scrolls game (think on that for a moment), and it wasn't even possible to finish Bloodlines on release because of a CTD bug that affected everyone. For a good long while, BioWare seemed to be a notable exception. But it's going backwards at the speed of knots with regards to bugs and polish on each new release.

 

I think what's changed is the money spent surrounding a game release (marketing, pre-order bonuses, hype, events, etc) has increased drastically, and builds the expectation of a product that is more polished than it really is. That, combined with a press that's bought, paid for and will aggressively lie to you for hits and profit, means that the consumer base is often unprepared for how misrepresented a game was when it hits (A:CM, Watch Dogs, Rome 2, etc).

 

The other thing that may be less prevalent, but still relevant, is the dominance of Western studios in the age of Multiplatform gaming. Japanese developers are more likely to deliver a polished out of the box experience, much more so than Western developers (though they have little love for PC). It could have to do with scope of games (with Japanese developers much less likely to tackle open world free roam sandbox games like Western Devs), or it could be a cultural difference that filters through management techniques and productivity. Who knows, I sure don't.

 

In any case, I would stick to games where you have a personal investment in it's success and can follow the development process (Early Access/KickStarter) or if you wish to show support for the developer and are willing to accept the consequences if the game is crap.

 

It's people's money. If they wish to spend it, then they risk the consequences. If they get burnt, that's on them.

 

But after 2014's AAA releases were all drowned in mediocrity and/or technical issues, it's hard to find justification for people still wanting to pre-order the next CoD or AC.

[Vroom Vroom]

[Stefan Burnett]

Only game that I preordered that was worth it was the MGS HD Collection, only because Konami didn't print enough copies to go around.