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The situation at the Well is suspiciously like a demon's offer (changed title to prevent misunderstandings)...


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#126
Ieldra

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But Mythal isn't a demon, right? Right?!  :crying:

That is beside the point.

 

The fact is, here is an entity that says - though its proxies, but still - "I'm going to give you powerful secret knowledge if you let me control you." You can be sure that this entity, like everyone else, follows her own agenda rather than yours, and you can't be sure whatever she'll force you to do eventually will be anything you'd even remotely agree to if you had still a choice. The situation is the same with any spirit of an unknown type. The situation would be the same with any human of unknown disposition, were they in a position to do the same.  


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That is beside the point.

 

The fact is, here is an entity that says - though its proxies, but still - "I'm going to give you powerful secret knowledge if you let me control you." You can be sure that this entity, like everyone else, follows her own agenda rather than yours, and you can't be sure whatever she'll force you to do eventually will be anything you'd even remotely agree to if you had still a choice. The situation is the same with any spirit of an unknown type. The situation would be the same with any human of unknown disposition, were they in a position to do the same.  

 

Essentially you are right.

 

However, a Dalish Elf might disagree with you out of religious belief, he or she will offer themselves willingly to the goddess,

perhaps partially in a hope to use this priceless ancient knowledge to improve the state of the Dalish in general.

 

There is also something else to consider: Abelas (sp?) or the others before him that were under the control of the Goddess - are not

known for going on rampages or starting holy wars in the name of their goddess. This might imply that the goddess is not interested in the kind of acts you fear.

 

The last point to consider is risk Vs. reward: What a garden variety demon might offer to a Mage are mere parlor tricks and trinkets in comparison to the power of the well of sorrows. Can you put a price on this kind of knowledge? Is your own complete freedom worth more to you than what the well has to offer - especially when the price is very vague and seemingly not at all as dangerous as a regular possesion?



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robertthebard

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Essentially you are right.
 
However, a Dalish Elf might disagree with you out of religious belief, he or she will offer themselves willingly to the goddess,
perhaps partially in a hope to use this priceless ancient knowledge to improve the state of the Dalish in general.
 
There is also something else to consider: Abelas (sp?) or the others before him that were under the control of the Goddess - are not
known for going on rampages or starting holy wars in the name of their goddess. This might imply that the goddess is not interested in the kind of acts you fear.
 
The last point to consider is risk Vs. reward: What a garden variety demon might offer to a Mage are mere parlor tricks and trinkets in comparison to the power of the well of sorrows. Can you put a price on this kind of knowledge? Is your own complete freedom worth more to you than what the well has to offer - especially when the price is very vague and seemingly not at all as dangerous as a regular possesion?


To me? Yes, my personal freedom is worth much more. Given the vague nature of the cost, my personal freedom, something I can weigh(figuratively speaking) is worth more than whatever the well has to offer. Losing one's self for power is the same, no matter if it's "regular(?)" possession or not.
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There is also something else to consider: Abelas (sp?) or the others before him that were under the control of the Goddess - are not

known for going on rampages or starting holy wars in the name of their goddess. This might imply that the goddess is not interested in the kind of acts you fear.

Consider this counterargument: what position is Abelas in to do so? What does he have that allows him to match the basically limitless human army and the resources they command? What does he have to even weaken it? I don't see that Mythal had any choice but to stay her hand previously. With the Inquisitor's power, both personal and political, she at least has enough to start with a Long Game.



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And the elves of today use it as a curse word for human. It's a slap in the face for long time elven players. It was like being kick while you're already down.

When someone is down is flat out the easiest time to kick them good and hard.  Bam, right in the ribcage.  Or face.  Or danglers.

 

Not condoning that, just saying that, yeah, that's when it's usually done. 



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I honestly think the choice between me or Morrigan drinking from the well is a matter of who is willing to take that burden at the cost of everything. Blackwall and Cole approve of an Inquisitor that drinks from the Well not because of the power it offers but because it is a selfless thing to do to take the burden of possibly losing yourself so that another would not have to suffer the same fate. With the revelation of who Mythal is, I really am glad that I didn't make Morrigan go through that.