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[Shechinah]

(to Rawgrim) Ouch. Sorry, that sucks. Reminds me of Fallout 3, my game has the wonderful idea of crashing at random intervals leading to me becoming overly paranoid because it happens with anything from hours apart to seconds. At best, I have to restart the game, at worst, I have to restart my computer.

[Elhanan]

2 bugs here, Both gamebreaking.

I play on the PC, and have not had anything that could not be solved easily (eg; reload for hovering corpse), loot, etc, or using Re-spec and hit Accept after choosing 2 or 3 abilities instead of selecting more).

Anything about these Bugs on the Xbox forums?

[Rawgrim]

I play on the PC, and have not had anything that could not be solved easily (eg; reload for hovering corpse), loot, etc, or using Re-spec and hit Accept after choosing 2 or 3 abilities instead of selecting more).

Anything about these Bugs on the Xbox forums?

 

Yeah. Plenty have encountered them. The first bug usually kicks in during the quest with Hawke. The conversation just hangs. The tip for solving that one was just to wait (skipping conversation doesn't work). Now after 45 minutes of waiting. Twice. It was pretty clear this didn't work. In addition to that I had to actually pull out the power cable in order to get out of the game. Being in a convo didn't allow me to access the Xbox menu.

 

Second one is a cutscene that is supposed to happen during the ball in Orlais. When you follow those assassins. Some harlequin fellow is supposed to be atop a balcony. Not happening. Tried 7 times. Someone suggested that I should just wait there too, but that will not work at all. That moronic Orlesian Court approval system they designed drops if I spend too much time. Not an option.

 

So I am stuck that place in the game, and I have to wait for a patch. Been waiting since mid December. Posted a question about this (in a very civil tone, by the way) at the Dragon Age facebook page three times. Everytime I do they delete it. Nice.

[In Exile]

Yeah. Plenty have encountered them. The first bug usually kicks in during the quest with Hawke. The conversation just hangs. The tip for solving that one was just to wait (skipping conversation doesn't work). Now after 45 minutes of waiting. Twice. It was pretty clear this didn't work. In addition to that I had to actually pull out the power cable in order to get out of the game. Being in a convo didn't allow me to access the Xbox menu.

 

Second one is a cutscene that is supposed to happen during the ball in Orlais. When you follow those assassins. Some harlequin fellow is supposed to be atop a balcony. Not happening. Tried 7 times. Someone suggested that I should just wait there too, but that will not work at all. That moronic Orlesian Court approval system they designed drops if I spend too much time. Not an option.

 

So I am stuck that place in the game, and I have to wait for a patch. Been waiting since mid December. Posted a question about this (in a very civil tone, by the way) at the Dragon Age facebook page three times. Everytime I do they delete it. Nice.

 

The Harlequin one may be tied to a necromancer ability. If you still see a living enemy that you can't target, switch FF on and try and kill it with AOEs. That's how I got my way out of that bug (on PC mind you). 

[Rawgrim]

The Harlequin one may be tied to a necromancer ability. If you still see a living enemy that you can't target, switch FF on and try and kill it with AOEs. That's how I got my way out of that bug (on PC mind you). 

 

I have heard of this. And it isn't the problem I am having. All the enemies are dead. And I also have no necromancers in the party. I have Varric, Cassandra and Vivienne.

[Blackzio]

I just don't get. We are intelligent people, are we?

 

Critics need to pay their bills, so their job is to review games... which need to be sold.

So the publisher is interested in good reviews.

So the publisher is interested in paying reviewers to get good reviews.

 

Did you see 'Game of the Year' awards that DA:I had won?

 

Well, those took the EA money for sure as it's not a GOTY game... Not yet and likely never.

What about all the peoples choice awards that DAI won? This game is pretty good, people liked it. We had a weak year in gaming, but DAI was one of the outliers. Is it the perfect game? no, but it's great. Might not have won if it was released on 2015 with much more competitors.

 

So my theory is this game still needed a bit of polishing, but was a bit rushed so it was still released in 2014. This kind of sucks, but i'm sure bioware will fix the bugs eventually. 

[Linkenski]

I just hate the fact that publishers uses Metacritic as a means to give bonuses to developers. Good way to motivate them to make good games but really unfair.

 

In Bungie's contract with Activision for Destiny there was a paragraph about a bonus for the Bungie staff if Destiny would get at least an average of 90 on Metacritic. I bet EA does that for Bioware too. Must suck since DA:I is just almost at 90, but again, it's another one of those reasons journalism sites are often accused by their viewers of being "paid under the table" for overrated scores.

[Rizilliant]

So, instead of accusing me of something, why don't you provide something a little more concrete than hyperbole? I assume you must have some video stored up somewhere that you're just waiting for the right opportunity to spring on us? I completed my first playthrough before Patch 2 hit, and was a large percentage of the way through my second. Sorry about your luck, or lack thereof? Does the fact that you do suddenly nullify the fact that others didn't, and that it's possible that the reviewers didn't either? Only in your mind, and on the BSN. After all, it's one big conspiracy here, isn't it?

Your taking my comment, and completely rewording it as your own.. You just said exactly what i did, and even quoted me.. 

 

Just because you didnt have bugs, doesnt mean many of us didnt! I find it VERY difficult to believe that these critics failed to run into  bugs, glitches, crashes, and game stoppers, at all...with so many 9-10, or 90+, and perfect scores it got, no one mentioned these issues?! We are playing a game that is TWO patches in, and still hitting them.. No way 'none' of these critics hit a wall, playing an unpatched game... Its simply mathematics.. 

 

PS: AngryJoe did a video about how foul the video game journalists have become.. Having gone too a video gamers award ceremony, he noted the patting on th e back they give for good scores, rewards from publishers, and endorsments recieved for doing so.. He hints at a large portion of the big names in the industry being rewarded for positive reviews.. 

[Elhanan]

Your taking my comment, and completely rewording it as your own.. You just said exactly what i did, and even quoted me.. 
 
Just because you didnt have bugs, doesnt mean many of us didnt! I find it VERY difficult to believe that these critics failed to run into  bugs, glitches, crashes, and game stoppers, at all...with so many 9-10, or 90+, and perfect scores it got, no one mentioned these issues?! We are playing a game that is TWO patches in, and still hitting them.. No way 'none' of these critics hit a wall, playing an unpatched game... Its simply mathematics.. 
 
PS: AngryJoe did a video about how foul the video game journalists have become.. Having gone too a video gamers award ceremony, he noted the patting on th e back they give for good scores, rewards from publishers, and endorsments recieved for doing so.. He hints at a large portion of the big names in the industry being rewarded for positive reviews..

So for the moment, say we agree that some reviewers are on the take and unworthy to be taken honestly. This site does exactly the same for User reviews by permitting and allowing invalid reviews to be posted by non-owners. Some say they can tell the difference, but I prefer not to bother and go elsewhere to a site that has actual Users post reviews. This may not mean the reviews and scores will change at all, but it does give them more credibility, and makes the searching for intel far easier.

[Keitaro57]

Well, I take some time on the metacritics reviews and had a strange feeling.

Almost all the "green" one are 10.

The "O" are somewhat half of the red ones.

 

The users guys that give bad reviews are more critic, giving other values. But for the "green" ones, the game is absolutely perfect. I found this biaised.

[AppalachianApex]

Sweet Maker, all those negative reviews by users. What a bunch of whiners. 

[DanielCofour]

I'm always fascinated with how many gamers believe reviewers are taking money for reviews. No. It's not happening. It's fiction.

 

Don't get me wrong, games' journalism is a joke. It's some of the worst of any journalism. Zero professionalism, corporate shilling and the likes. But there are no paid-for-reviews. The closest anyone gets is basically sucking up to advertisers(which are more often than not the publishers). But that's very rare. Ultimately the publisher needs the sites to advertise upon and refusing further ad money or review copies to the site because of a bad review would be a huge debacle for a publisher and free advertisement for any site, so it just doesn't happen, only very rarely. 

 

No, Dragon Age wasn't a particularly splendid game, but then again, 2014 wasn't a particularly splendid year. The only ones of the AAA releases (there are a number of indies which are far better than DAI, like Transistor, but if critics chose that, half of GameSpot would be outraged that some obscure game won the award) that I think beats out DAI is Wolfenstein and Bayonetta . But you need to have a certain kind of taste for those games. A Forbes article pointed out recently that Dragon Age Inquisition was gaming's Crash(a mediocre movie which won an Oscar). No it wasn't a good movie, but it was better than the others. Pretty much the same here. 

[keyip]

 

Almost all the "green" one are 10.

The "O" are somewhat half of the red ones.

 

That's not what I'm seeing.

 

Also green and red have different scales, so red goes from 0-5, whereas green is something like 8,9,10. A more accurate comparison would be to compare the red reviews with the green AND yellow ones.

 

But that's ignoring the point that Metacritic is usually a worthless place to visit. I find the practice of people trolling certain games because a) they don't like the publisher, b ) don't like the developer's game philosophies and c) don't like the way a certain company is headed to be an incredibly immature and retarded practice. Congratulations to all those people for making Metacritic one of the laughing stocks of the internet btw.

[Joxer]

I'm always fascinated with how many gamers believe reviewers are taking money for reviews. No. It's not happening. It's fiction.

Oh and reviewers don't have to pay bills, don't have to eat and don't have to sleep.

 

Reviewers take the money. Some, not all, reviewers, take the money to falsify a review. If you believe there are no such reviewers, well sorry, but the world doesn't work like that.

 

Lemme ask you something. If EA offered a million you to make a 10/10 review about their Dungeon Keeper, would you do it?

I WOULD!

Not sure if this guy would though:

 

[Keitaro57]

That's not what I'm seeing.

 

Also green and red have different scales, so red goes from 0-5, whereas green is something like 8,9,10. A more accurate comparison would be to compare the red reviews with the green AND yellow ones.

 

But that's ignoring the point that Metacritic is usually a worthless place to visit. I find the practice of people trolling certain games because a) they don't like the publisher, b ) don't like the developer's game philosophies and c) don't like the way a certain company is headed to be an incredibly immature and retarded practice. Congratulations to all those people for making Metacritic one of the laughing stocks of the internet btw.

Nope, red are 0-4.

 

Nothing is perfect but we can't trust the producters or the devs of a game to know what he is really. We need opinions, facts and arguing. Lots of professionnals reviewers or youtubers takes money. The launch of the XboxOne is a good sample of the real opinion of a lot of this so-called professionnals of games (AKA : The more money I get, the better the game).

 

But you know what, I prefer whiners. Because whiners says why they whine and gives clues about point of the game that are broken or bugs nobody else talk about. The 10/10 opinions made me laugh : I'll NEVER give such a note to a game, especially nowadays!

[robertthebard]

Oh and reviewers don't have to pay bills, don't have to eat and don't have to sleep.
 
Reviewers take the money. Some, not all, reviewers, take the money to falsify a review. If you believe there are no such reviewers, well sorry, but the world doesn't work like that.
 
Lemme ask you something. If EA offered a million you to make a 10/10 review about their Dungeon Keeper, would you do it?
I WOULD!
Not sure if this guy would though:
 

So professional reviewers don't get a paycheck from where they're employed, only from game reviews?

[Texhnolyze101]

Metacritic needs to be ignored by both gamers and developers.

[Xhaiden]

Looking to Metacritic user reviews for guidence is like looking to /b/ for racial equality.

[otis0310]

We all remember the scandal that was caused when Jeff Gertsmann was fired for giving a bad review to Kane and Lynch.   Apparently Eidos did not like it, and neither did several other companies that he gave bad reviews to.

 

This incident tells us that game reviewers are under extreme pressure to write good reviews.  Tthe bigger publishers have the influence necessary to pad the scoring by 2-3 points.  And Jeff Gertsmann is a fine example of what happens if you refuse to cave in to the pressure.

 

Not mention another thread here had a link to a company that acknowledged they were working for EA.  This company puts up an average of 50,000 posts A DAY where they actively praise EA games in either forums or review sites.  The company is actually paid to do that.

 

Nobody can honestly take a look at these incidents and then say game reviews are unbiased.

[zeypher]

The difference in score between critic and user review is extremely helpful. Just that alone gives a person a hint that by getting this game he might be geting screwed. DA2, ME3, now this and the same trend followed in metacritic. 

 

You can lambast any excuses you like, but for PC players we feel to have been screwed by the dev team.

[otis0310]

The difference in score between critic and user review is extremely helpful. Just that alone gives a person a hint that by getting this game he might be geting screwed. DA2, ME3, now this and the same trend followed in metacritic. 

 

You can lambast any excuses you like, but for PC players we feel to have been screwed by the dev team.

 

 

Being a PC gamer I could agree to this, but seeing so many other posts by Xbox and Playstation players I think they also feel screwed.  They just don't want to make a game that appeals to fans Dragon Age, regardless of platform.  They want to appeal to COD fans instead.

[Elhanan]

The difference in score between critic and user review is extremely helpful. Just that alone gives a person a hint that by getting this game he might be geting screwed. DA2, ME3, now this and the same trend followed in metacritic. 
 
You can lambast any excuses you like, but for PC players we feel to have been screwed by the dev team.

As a long time User of the PC, I disagree. There is no 'we' in either a need to complain, or in finding anything helpful about metacritic.

[Inalt]

This is the first time I agree with the most negative user reviews on metacritic. At least the reviews sort by date and most helpful are serious opinions and I have to say I think the same about Inquisition. Unfortunately the current 5.8 is really deserved. Such a disappointment. What happened to my favorite developer...

 

http://www.metacriti...l&num_items=100

 

[Epzaos]

Metacritic, the best place to read some cringe-worthy reviews while laughing at the anger of the reviewer-troll.

[Jeffry]

Well, since this thread has been necroed...

 

 

We all remember the scandal that was caused when Jeff Gertsmann was fired for giving a bad review to Kane and Lynch.   Apparently Eidos did not like it, and neither did several other companies that he gave bad reviews to.

 

This incident tells us that game reviewers are under extreme pressure to write good reviews.  Tthe bigger publishers have the influence necessary to pad the scoring by 2-3 points.  And Jeff Gertsmann is a fine example of what happens if you refuse to cave in to the pressure.

 

Not mention another thread here had a link to a company that acknowledged they were working for EA.  This company puts up an average of 50,000 posts A DAY where they actively praise EA games in either forums or review sites.  The company is actually paid to do that.

 

Nobody can honestly take a look at these incidents and then say game reviews are unbiased.

 

As soon as I saw your post, it reminded me of this video. I am guessing it might not be a coincidence It is, as all their "100% honest" videos are, spot on.