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[yankblan]

Here's my background, and see if it would fit me:

 

I started RPGs with FF7-12; 12 being my first dip in a somewhat WRPG style or RPG.  XI is mmo (skipped), and XIII was atrocious.

 

I liked but did not finish Diablo II, simply because I don't game on PC much.

 

I loved DA:O, liked DA2 for all its flaws;not bad, not great either. 

 

I am entranced by DA:I right now.

 

I really enjoyed Kingdom of Amalur, but got lost in all the side quests unfortunately; will try again. 

 

I zoomed through Diablo 3; even though unlike the last two mentioned games, I prefer party-type RPGs to solo.

 

Tried and hated TES:Oblivion with all my guts.  Will never give Skyrim a chance in this lifetime.

 

Even though I'm not a PC fan, I will probably try Divinity:Original Sin; it fits what I like.

 

I usually prefer LOTR type/medieval settings.

 

What holds me back right now is the futuristic settings, not knowing about the combat/growth/gear mechanics.

 

What gets my hopes up is that it's Bioware (obviously my love of DA setting).

 

I could get the trilogy on PSN for $29.99; really good deal obviously, but a deal is good only if I play it.  I remember buying the Splinter Cell trilogy only to realize that it was only a phase while playing Pandora Tomorrow, and that I don't have the desire to play those anymore.

 

Thanks for all the input!

[MrFob]

There is a very relevant thread here at the moment, which basically discusses this very question;

http://forum.bioware...hould-i-buy-it/

 

Given your background, I'd say it could go either way but I'd say give it a shot.

And if you can, get the PC version. It offers you a few extra options down the road if you should really get into mass effect.

[yankblan]

Thanks for the link.  Guess I'll have to dive in!

 

Edit: so from what I get, the first one is more shooter-like? 1st or 3rd person?

Modifié par yankblan, 14 janvier 2015 - 08:06 .

[Rasande]

Do you like shooters?

Beacuse combat wise, ME is mostly a shooter with heavy RPG elements(ME1 the most, ME2 the least, ME3 has a nice balance but the combat is faster paced than the other two) You still gain levels and level up skills but you haveto aim and take cover. ME1 is the only one i'd consider an RPG since gear is important and your effectivness with your weapons depends mostly on character skill rather than player skill.

 

The non combat stuff and missions/quests are pretty standard Bioware afair and should feel very familliar to you if you liked DA2/DA:I

 

But honestly it's such a great series i have a hard time not recommending it to any gamer unless they really hated shooters.

[Element Zero]

Thanks for the link.  Guess I'll have to dive in!
 
Edit: so from what I get, the first one is more shooter-like? 1st or 3rd person?

They are all "3rd Person Action RPGs". The combat of ME1 is dated. It's still a great game, but it will not be representative of what awaits in the latter two games. One of the coolest things about ME is that it takes a quality RPG and gives it action-game combat. There aren't too many RPGs out there with decent gameplay. (This great gameplay kicks in with ME2. ME1 isn't bad, it's just very basic.)

[yankblan]

Oh, I loved CoD until Ghost, but that is FPS.  I'm not much of a 3rd person shooter kind of guy; I had trouble with games like GTA and TLOU when shooting.

[Element Zero]

Mass Effect combat is much tighter, by design, than TLoU and GTA. You're playing a decorated Spec Ops marine, so he can shoot pretty well (as opposed to Joel's built in wavering hand in TLoU.) If you struggle, up the aiming assist setting in the options. Plus, depending upon your choice of specialization, your capabilities may extend way beyond guns.

[Element Zero]

You could look up gameplay videos on YouTube. I have noticed, though, that many YouTubers seem to play with a frantic, chaotic style. You can tell they've brought that style over from Multiplayer gameplay.

You can effectively play the games at a much slower pace, utilizing cover and the like. Honestly, I play much more "smoothly", so to speak, and seem to generally be a bit more effective than those YT videos show. I say all that only to emphasize that you can play this game in many ways, all of them effective.

[CaIIisto]

I'd say yes. Based entirely on the fact that you seem to have gone through a similar gaming journey and have similar gaming tastes as myself.

Huge (classic) FF fan, big CoD fan until Ghosts, don't really like The Elder Scrolls games, and love DA.

ME is an action RPG with the gaming elements slanted more towards the shooter genre than strict RPGs, but with a much more layered narrative than you'd ordinarily expect in a shooter.

For a long time classic FF was my favourite gaming series of all time. Despite certain issues that I have with the third ME game, as a series ME overtook FF ultimately.

[Yokokorama]

Mass Effect is nothing like Dragon Age in terms of gameplay.  It is basically a third person shooter, albeit with slightly more sophisticated mechanics thanks to some control over companions.  Note that you can only bring 2 companions (unlike DA's tendency to allow 3 companions), and you cannot physically control the companions like you can in Dragon Age; you can only give them a few basic commands.

 

In terms of "RPG-ness", Mass Effect 1 has probably the most RPG elements, but from there the RPG elements decrease with each game.  This is not to say ME2 and ME3 don't have RPG elements; they do, but less than the first game.  The third game has, by far, the least RPG elements (expect tons of autodialogue).

 

In terms of companions, Mass Effect is similar to Dragon Age.  You have to gather the companions one by one, usually via some sort of mission.  There are companion missions for each squad member as well, similar to Dragon Age.  You can also have length conversations back at your "home base" (a ship, rather than Skyhold) with your companions and learn more about them.

 

Overall, given you are a DA fan, I'd say ME is worth a shot.  It certainly has that distinct Bioware feel to it.  I personally played ME before I played DA games, so I can't speak for the reverse (going from DA to ME).  I played in this order: ME1, ME2, DA2, DAO, ME3, DAI (all on PC).
 

[Element Zero]

I understand why some people feel that ME lost some "RPG elements" as it progressed. I mostly disagree, but I understand. Moreover, I think it's important to balance that claim with a few other facts.

Never has there been a series that allows you to make so many major (and minor) decisions that have lasting effects on future games. Yes, they all led to a very similar conclusion, but the journey to get there could be drastically different, based upon decisions you made in each game. In terms of roleplaying decisions that impact your future experience, Mass Effect is unparalleled. I'm unaware of any other series that has come close to attempting or achieving such an ambitious design goal.

Mass Effect is awesome. Stop reading our posts and go buy it already.

[Han Shot First]

I'd have to disagree with the posts that imply the ME games aren't RPGs. All three games are RPGs with shooter gameplay. (the last two more than the first)

 

Die rolls and number crunching aren't the end-all-and-be-all of RPGs.

[Gkonone]

I don't think it's a good idea to ask whether playing a certain game is worth it, at a forum that is dedicated to that game. I doubt you'll hear anyone here say it's not worth it.

I get your doubts about the futuristic setting. I was never a fan of that and I didn't like ME1 that much on my first playthrough. It got way better when I started ME2, because I got more accustomed to the universe, storytelling and gameplay.

I think that the Mass Effect games aren't about one single game but the total experience. That's why I never could pick a favorite. It's the journey, not the destination, as cliche as that may sound. But for this series it's very true.

 

For the first playthrough I would suggest sticking mostly with the story, so it's more fast paced and you get a feeling of the games faster. You can always do a new playthrough reading every journal entry and dialogue.

If you only stick to story missions you get a good grasp of the central theme, so that should be enough for a first playthrough. It all comes down to preference though.

For many ME1 is the best while for me it was too slow, but combining the three games, they all play their important parts. 

 

Other than that, best game series ever.

[Drone223]

I'd have to disagree with the posts that imply the ME games aren't RPGs. All three games are RPGs with shooter gameplay. (the last two more than the first)
 

Bioware has always intended for the ME series to be a RPG/TPS hybrid.

[Mcfly616]

 

 

Tried and hated TES:Oblivion with all my guts.  Will never give Skyrim a chance in this lifetime.

 

 

That's really too bad. While Skyrim isn't for everyone, your opinion of it or your willingness to play it certainly should not be based on Oblivion.

 

 

Personally, I could never get into Marrowind. Oblivion just felt too dated. However, Skyrim owned my soul for 400 hours. The only other games that top that amount of time is the Mass Effect trilogy.

[CronoDragoon]

The physical version of the ME trilogy goes on sale often for $20. If you're still deep into Inquisition I might recommend waiting for a sale.

ME's combat and gear mechanics are simpler than DA's, so don't worry about being lost there. ME1 is a bit clunky but the way weapons/armor/combat work in ME2/3 is very intuitive.

[cap and gown]

Just a note on "futuristic settings": ME1 has the most spartan art work of the series. The Citadel, in particular, may put you off because of its classically Sci-fi look. Most of the other places you will go have a very spartan feel to them as well. When you get to ME2, OTOH, the art work is greatly improved. Omega may strike you as having a "Blade Runner" feel to it, but the Sci-fi aspects don't really jump out at you. On the whole, the game improves dramatically after ME1, both in gameplay and in art (and even the music is better in later titles).

 

Also, as far as this being a "shooter": one reason I like the ME series is because I am NOT reliant on my weapons. I am not a very good shot, so shooters tend to turn me off. Instead, I tend to go with the mage-like classes and rely more on my powers than my weapons to get the job done.

[Rittmeister64]

And if you can, get the PC version. It offers you a few extra options down the road if you should really get into mass effect.

right. for some reason Bioware never gets the interface and key setup right on PC.

In every ME game, I had to change the CombatMenu (pause) to become a toggle, so I do not have to press and hold SPACE all the time.

I also changed the Mako XP in ME1 to give the same amount of XP as when fighting outside. It's just stupid and annoying to exit the Mako for fights. By default you only get 40% of XP when killing stuff with the Mako gun.

 

 

http://masseffect.wi.../wiki/PC_Tweaks

http://masseffect.wi...(Mass_Effect_2)

http://masseffect.wi...(Mass_Effect_3)

in case anybody needs to fix their PC versions

 

Enabling the Console is also nice, even if you only use it to make screenshots and fly around with FreeCam... I'm glad they didn't disable the Console in DA:I. I use it only for PerfOverlay.drawfps 1 currently.