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[Alfonsedode]

What if I told you... That there are people who have been waiting more than you have!? XD Yeah I'm a bad person, I know! XD I'll get to it eventually, I promise!
 

Lol, but i must say I always got one even weeks after .

[NuclearTech76]

When cooldown matters not.

Why in the **** would anyone need a cooldown when they can have a Claymore instead?

 

Highlord trumps cooldowns. 

[GordianKnot42]

Yeah, a much worse opponent than the claymore, to the piranha, is the raider. Can hardly think of any instance in which I'd rather have a piranha than a raider.

Generally, if I want the legs chewed off of a water buffalo in a stream I'll choose a piranha. Whereas if I'm looking for a lost Ark I'll go with a raider.

Otherwise... Claymore.

[Peer of the Empire]

In what cases is Claymore superior to Piranha?

 

In lolgold

[q5tyhj]

In lolgold

Also, lolplatinum, lolsilver, and lolbronze. The Claymore doesn't somehow lose sexiness or ferocity on different difficulties. 

[lonerenforcer9]

Also, lolplatinum, lolsilver, and lolbronze. The Claymore doesn't somehow lose sexiness or ferocity on different difficulties.

Or style. But if I want to take out 3 Marauders, a Prime or Brute quickly on Plat I know what shotgun I'm using

[Peer of the Empire]

Also, lolplatinum, lolsilver, and lolbronze. The Claymore doesn't somehow lose sexiness or ferocity on different difficulties. 

 

I like it too.  But alas, it could not achieve

[Miniditka77]

The way I see it, the Claymore works on every class.  The Piranha may work better on classes where you can afford to be exposed for extended periods of time, such as a classes with DR powers or classes with reliable AOE stagger powers (e.g., GI).  Personally, I use the Piranha on the Valkyrie and the Shadow, and sometimes on the GI or as a sidearm on a Destroyer - especially if I'm using the PPR or a sniper rifle as a main weapon.  That's about it.

[Creator Limbs]

All cases.

[GruntKitterhand]

The Krogan Sentinel I cherish as my favourite character only ever goes into battle with his Claymore.  His secret pet name for said weapon is 'Jack', after a feisty foul-mouthed female human biotic he once encountered.  She had threatened to blow his quads off, one by one, if he tried to interfere in one of her nefarious activities.  He ran with her for a while, and found out the true meaning of vandalism. The Claymore is vandalism.

 

My Piranha does not have a pet name.

[q5tyhj]

I like it too.  But alas, it could not achieve

Could not achieve what? Are you saying that the Claymore doesn't work on Platinum? 

 

Its obviously not quite there with the highest DPS shotguns, but its not far behind, and its viable on any and all difficulties with relative ease. 

[q5tyhj]

Or style. But if I want to take out 3 Marauders, a Prime or Brute quickly on Plat I know what shotgun I'm using

Me too- Venom+Cluster Grenade... 

[Peer of the Empire]

Could not achieve what? Are you saying that the Claymore doesn't work on Platinum? 

 

Its obviously not quite there with the highest DPS shotguns, but its not far behind, and its viable on any and all difficulties with relative ease. 

 

Well, I actually try to avoid posting here on the forums; it's just not that interesting, most players don't post here, and it also takes time.  But to be more clear, and to save people's tender hearts, the Claymore is a fine weapon.  In Platinum, on the krogan soldier, it will be ok.  You will kill and you will survive.  As I've said more eloquently before though, there are better choices for the krogan.

 

A rough weapon hierachy on Platinum for the krogan soldier goes something like this:

 

Acolyte w/ SMG > Venom > Graal > Reegar > Crusader > Striker > Talon > Wraith > Claymore

 

Some nuances could perhaps be adjusted here and there but this is a quick summary.

 

PPR would be way up there if paired with the Acolyte, though in general he is better with fast cooldowns.  Harrier doesn't have enough ammo; he doesn't have shield stripping powers, weapon amp powers, or particularly fast move speed to hit the ammo boxes. 

 

Though Harrier w/ Reegar and grenades is pretty good if want to play as a weapons platform.  In fact, Bioware created the Reegar for him and classes like him to overcome the shortcomings of the Claymore

[frank_is_crank]

I actually try to avoid posting here on the forums

You should try harder and you will have success eventually.

[Peer of the Empire]

You should try harder and you will have success eventually.

 

Thank you for the kind words of encouragement.

[q5tyhj]

Well, I actually try to avoid posting here on the forums; it's just not that interesting, most players don't post here, and it also takes time.  But to be more clear, and to save people's tender hearts, the Claymore is a fine weapon.  In Platinum, on the krogan soldier, it will be ok.  You will kill and you will survive.  As I've said more eloquently before though, there are better choices for the krogan.

 

A rough weapon hierachy on Platinum for the krogan soldier goes something like this:

 

Acolyte w/ SMG > Venom > Graal > Reegar > Crusader > Striker > Talon > Wraith > Claymore

What exactly do you mean by 'better' here? Better how? DPS-wise? Cooldown-wise, i.e. are you trying to be a power-spam build? 'Better' is extremely vague, and many of the things one could mean by 'better' are entirely subjective, or at least dependent on other factors (build, intended faction to play against, etc.). And depending on those other factors, any of the above weapons could be considered "better" under different circumstances- I don't believe that there are really any other guns that are better than any other gun in any and all situations (among the rares and URs at any rate). And this isn't even to consider how fun the gun is to use, which is, for me, the most important factor of all, and practically rules out the Reegar, the Acolyte, the Harrier, the Piranha, and necessitates using big boomsticks like the Claymore, Raider, or Venom.

[Peer of the Empire]

What exactly do you mean by 'better' here? Better how? DPS-wise? Cooldown-wise, i.e. are you trying to be a power-spam build? 'Better' is extremely vague, and many of the things one could mean by 'better' are entirely subjective, or at least dependent on other factors (build, intended faction to play against, etc.). And depending on those other factors, any of the above weapons could be considered "better" under different circumstances- I don't believe that there are really any other guns that are better than any other gun in any and all situations (among the rares and URs at any rate). And this isn't even to consider how fun the gun is to use, which is, for me, the most important factor of all, and practically rules out the Reegar, the Acolyte, the Harrier, the Piranha, and necessitates using big boomsticks like the Claymore, Raider, or Venom.

 

Well, if you can do this and this with the Claymore on the Krogan Soldier in Platinum, the point will be conceded.  Theoretically it seems like it might be doable with reload cancel and aim.  Obv won't work long range.

 

Movement such as getting into close combat to use the Claymore, and then overriding the reload pause when needed to survive close combat, as well as getting banshee barriers down would be weaknesses to work on.  There will also be less Carnage, for clutch protective detonations or just to do all the work with Fire Explosions

 

Most steps on that rough hierarchy are only small ones, but once you get down the ladder a larger gap develops

[q5tyhj]

Well, if you can do this and this with the Claymore on the Krogan Soldier in Platinum, the point will be conceded.  Theoretically it seems like it might be doable with reload cancel and aim.  Obv won't work long range.

 

Movement such as getting into close combat to use the Claymore, and then overriding the reload pause when needed to survive close combat, as well as getting banshee barriers down would be weaknesses to work on.  There will also be less Carnage, for clutch protective detonations or just to do all the work with Fire Explosions

 

In other words, depending on how you intend to play, what your build is, etc. Pretty much what I just said. And I didn't watch the whole videos, but I'm unclear as to what you're saying you can't do with the Claymore. I saw you running with the pizza and meleeing stuff, but obviously both of those things can be done with any gun. Did you mean the running charged shot? Obviously that's one difference between charged weapons and others, but there are things one can do with a Claymore that you can't with other weapons as well (acolyte can't penetrate cover or get headshots, obviously). 

[q5tyhj]

At most you seem to be saying that, for your build, and the way you play the KroSol (since you appear to be talking about him in particular, not in general), there are other guns which are preferable to the Claymore. And that's fair enough, so far as it goes.

[lonerenforcer9]

In other words, depending on how you intend to play, what your build is, etc. Pretty much what I just said. And I didn't watch the whole videos, but I'm unclear as to what you're saying you can't do with the Claymore. I saw you running with the pizza and meleeing stuff, but obviously both of those things can be done with any gun. Did you mean the running charged shot? Obviously that's one difference between charged weapons and others, but there are things one can do with a Claymore that you can't with other weapons as well (acolyte can't penetrate cover or get headshots, obviously). 

 

I think he's talking about killing phantoms quickly and efficiently (the whole "one pass" spiel) on plat. Obviously done quickly with the shown acolyte melee build (works great w/ stickies too) but can't be done as quickly/efficiently with a claymore?

 

Probably true, but doesn't mean that the claymore isn't good at it too.

[Quarian Master Race]

If I see a krogan holding an Acolyte, I'm going to point & laugh

 

plat phantoms can't survive Claymoar- backhand unless you miss or have derp build/ mods/ consumables/ teammates who trigger her DR.

[q5tyhj]

I think he's talking about killing phantoms quickly and efficiently (the whole "one pass" spiel) on plat. Obviously done quickly with the shown acolyte melee build (works great w/ stickies too) but can't be done as quickly/efficiently with a claymore?

 

Probably true, but doesn't mean that the claymore isn't good at it too.

Oh ok. But like the quarian said, Claymore-backhand combo kills phantoms pretty fast too, and obviously any of the other charged weapons can do the running shot-backhand- and with the Graal or Venom or GPS there's the whole advantage of not having to use an Acolyte on a Krogan. 

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

 

....teammates who trigger her DR.

 

Always....

[didacuscarr]

I guess, if you're insecure in your aim, the Piranha is better suited for you.

Piranha sounds disgusting imo.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

I guess, if you're insecure in your aim, the Piranha is better suited for you.

Piranha sounds disgusting imo.

 

When I use a Piranha, I am absolutely secure in the thought that my aim will be everywhere and anywhere