Joining don't make you grey warden it makes you tainted you aren't involved in fact in any way with grey warden order in dao so yes the warden group was just random group of adventures that went on quest to stop blight... As i said grey wardens screwd themselves making themselves look like nothing more than mooks to hunt darkspawn and this is pretty much how whole world sees them.
As i said loghain and Teagan divided ferelden creating civil war in that without the warden loghain would pretty much win civil war but still sadly would lose with blight without someone who is tainted because archdemon can be killed only by tainted person.Still grey warden order wasn't part of defating blight in anyway only their role was being killed by darkspawn so you can throw your quote as clarel did it means nothing.
Clarel and her wardens yeah...
Do i have to mention that pretty much almost all ferelden forces plus that warden gathered were with the warden the moment darkspawn attacked denerim because archdemon tricked them into thinking he tried to attack redcliff.Also i never said they were doing great job because mentioned civil war but they were doing much better job than grey warden order who well was killed and did nothing and yet blight was defated without their help.
Joining does make you a Grey Warden - once it's done, that's what you are, but hey, please continue to blithely ignore the realities of Thedas and the Warden order itself. You might be a new Warden, but surviving the Joining is all that it really takes.
Whatever rank you have or don't have is entirely irrelevant. Your silly claim that the Wardens weren't involved at all during the Fifth Blight is invalid as far as I'm concerned, because the HoF, Alistair, Riordan, and Duncan
were Wardens, and all of them
did contribute to stopping the Fifth Blight. Without all of them, without the Warden treaties, and without their Warden ability to permanently kill the archdemon, then all of Ferelden (and the rest of Thedas) would've been doomed.
I can''t even believe you're trying to claim that the Order
wasn't involved in stopping the Fifth Blight. So what was the HoF exactly?
Because as far as I can tell, everyone since the end of DA:O has always referred to the HoF as a Warden. As for the Denerim thing: again, if everyone else is so much better than the Wardens, why didn't
they see through the archdemon's little feint? Because if they didn't see that, then I guess they're not any better (and are arguably worse since they're totally useless in killing an archdemon) than the Wardens from DA:O (the HoF and Alistair - unless you turn Loghain into a Warden).
Also, I really don't know why you think that yammering about how the darkspawn keep decimating the Wardens makes any kind of actual point. The Wardens are willing to - and do - sacrifice themselves out of necessity, and no matter how good they are, they're relatively small in number and always will be. So they
will always take heavy losses in order to stop Blights and to protect the rest of the world. Were all the armed forces who died in WWII incompetent because they took heavy losses? Were all the soldiers who died during the Civil War fighting for their respective causes incompetent because they suffered heavy losses? I think not. And trying to paint the Wardens as incompetent boobs for the entirety of the Order's existence because they similarly suffer heavy losses while doing something extremely dangerous is laughable.
As for the issue of Clarel, I will point out again that the Wardens were scared out of their minds in DA:I (basically) - all because of Corypheus's false Calling, which they believed to be real because they didn't know any better. I think they have since learned their lesson if you spare them and appear to have a better perspective on how they should interact with the rest of the world after their close call. If you spare the Wardens and bother to watch the epilogue, you will see that the Orlesian Wardens split from Weisshaupt because they feel it's time to end their isolation and to be at least a
bit more connected to what goes on around them.
Dude, seriously, your attempt to claim that all the Wardens throughout the entire history of Thedas are incompetent - except for your Warden (who you say isn't a Warden despite everyone else in Thedas acknowledging that the HoF actually is a Warden) - is completely silly. And I'm done for the night because I'm going to go sleep instead of arguing over something that is now officially an inane argument.
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Joining don't make you grey warden as i said grey wardens are an organization and you can just leave see you aren't grey warden if you don't want to be grey warden taint ofc stays but you don't belong to 
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