They're both amazing, but I'll still give the slight advantage to BroShep. Mark Meer is a legend.
I know that alot of people loves femsheps voice but I can't stand it she sounded so angry all the time. Mark Meer got better each game and was really good all three games.
I know that alot of people loves femsheps voice but I can't stand it she sounded so angry all the time. Mark Meer got better each game and was really good all three games.
Renegade femshep definitely sounded angry/kill-crazy, but I think paragon femshep was great. Meer was great for renegade shep though, the right amount of action movie snark.
Yes and that makes the % of the post unusable in the female/male gamer % debate. I agree that people shouldn't shy away from creating female character leads because of fear of decreased sales. A good story is a good story and if the protagonist needs to be a certain gender for the story to work or make sense or if the story they want to tell is one with a male char or female in the lead then I'm fine with whatever.
I agree that the % of the character's chosen gender isn't reliable for such a thing. I've seen a lot of guys play as women and a lot of women playing males. I'd just like more games to incorporate such a choice, but those are for the games where they want player choice and customization to be a huge gameplay features.
I completely agree with the bolded part.
Femquizzy on PC 
Though I made some males D:
Renegade femshep definitely sounded angry/kill-crazy, but I think paragon femshep was great. Meer was great for renegade shep though, the right amount of action movie snark.
I though she sounded pissed all the time like she stubbed her toe on the door frame and she was trying to hold back the anger from that event.
I know that alot of people loves femsheps voice but I can't stand it she sounded so angry all the time. Mark Meer got better each game and was really good all three games.
Yep. Meer was a little wooden in some ME1 scenes but he got better and better. Always my preferred voice.
I still don't see what the issue is on which gender someone chooses to play as. Unless I'm misinterpreting the OP, but it sounds like a complaint.
Male playing a male? Good for you.
Male playing a female? Good for you.
Female playing a male? Good for you.
Female playing a female? Good for you.
As an aside--
We have Lara Croft as the Tomb Raider. But then now we have Nathan Drake which is taking the spotlight from a strong female character protagonist..
Really? Lara not only predates Nathan by a very long time, but Lara is far more successful and infinitely more recognizable than Nathan. Nathan Drake isn't "taking the spotlight" away from anybody.
The percentage is a bit bigger than I thought it'd be. Still like to see it higher.
Just curious...why do some people think that a higher percentage is better? Don't mean to point fingers at you, I have seen others express similar sentiments...
Is it because a higher percentage demonstrates a greater number of "enlightened" players who play the game? Is it all part of some master plan to stamp out men who play games as men? Do these people own stock in companies that supply female heroes with lacy undergarments? Is it because once we reach a certain plateau, the heartbreak of psoriasis will cease to be so...heartbreaking?
Nothing wrong with a person playing as a female character; just curious about the idea that when the number trends up, it's a good thing... <shrug>
Just curious...why do some people think that a higher percentage is better? Don't mean to point fingers at you, I have seen others express similar sentiments...
Is it because a higher percentage demonstrates a greater number of "enlightened" players who play the game? Is it all part of some master plan to stamp out men who play games as men? Do these people own stock in companies that supply female heroes with lacy undergarments? Is it because once we reach a certain plateau, the heartbreak of psoriasis will cease to be so...heartbreaking?
Nothing wrong with a person playing as a female character; just curious about the idea that when the number trends up, it's a good thing... <shrug>
I answered this in some later posts in the thread in response to Ogillardetta. Read those.
Please do not assume I'm one of those so called "feminist" gamers as I find a lot of their arguments ridiculous and sexist. The reason I wish the female character would have a larger percentage is because I believe it could open up the choice to choose a gender for more main characters in games that want to utilize choice and customization.
Plus, a lot of guys play female characters. It doesn't mean a damn thing to the argument about female gamers..
I answered this in some later posts in the thread in response to Ogillardetta. Read those.
Please do not assume I'm one of those so called "feminist" gamers as I find a lot of their arguments ridiculous and sexist. The reason I wish the female character would have a larger percentage is because I believe it could open up the choice to choose a gender for more main characters in games that want to utilize choice and customization.
Plus, a lot of guys play female characters. It doesn't mean a damn thing to the argument about female gamers..
Most games that offer choice and customization (of the player character) DO offer choice of gender. BioWare games, the newer Fallout games, the Elder Scrolls, most every MMO that exists, Sunset Overdrive, Gears of War 3 and Judgment, off the top of my head. Hell, even Call of Duty is getting in on the player customization with Ghosts and Advanced Warfare.
I still don't see what the issue is on which gender someone chooses to play as. Unless I'm misinterpreting the OP, but it sounds like a complaint.
Male playing a male? Good for you.
Male playing a female? Good for you.
Female playing a male? Good for you.
Female playing a female? Good for you.
As an aside--
Really? Lara not only predates Nathan by a very long time, but Lara is far more successful and infinitely more recognizable than Nathan. Nathan Drake isn't "taking the spotlight" away from anybody.
Not much a complaint but an observation. I have been playing games for 30 years now and it seems that people would be more open to play more female roles. I remember getting the game Remember Me which features a female protagonist. The develop talked how other developers scrutinize the idea of a female role character because it wasn't popular or in demand. However Dontnod went against the trend and decided to go with a female character. But it is obvious that we are long way before it balances itself.
I would just like to see more balance in a male saturated industry.
Most games that offer choice and customization (of the player character) DO offer choice of gender. BioWare games, the newer Fallout games, the Elder Scrolls, most every MMO that exists, Sunset Overdrive, Gears of War 3 and Judgment, off the top of my head. Hell, even Call of Duty is getting in on the player customization with Ghosts and Advanced Warfare.
I'm talking specifically about games that are similar to Bioware games, like Witcher and Deus Ex, story-driven with more complex character interaction.
I'm talking specifically about games that are similar to Bioware games, like Witcher and Deus Ex, story-driven with more complex character interaction.
Deus Ex doesn't have particularly complex character interactions. At least, Human Revolution doesn't. Adam Jensen's interactions with people are largely just dialogue, with little in the way of his actual development. I've only played about 4 hours of the Witcher 2 before I decided that it's got one of the worst combat systems I've ever utilized in an action-RPG and stopped playing it, so I can't speak for most of Geralt's interactions. Also, for the Witcher, that's based on a series of books with a set, defined protagonist. One shouldn't expect a lot of customization there.
considering only 18% of Mass Effect players played female, this is progress
Nah, David Gaider was talking about the percentage for Dragon Age being around 30% before this game. It's just down to genre I guess, though the strong identity of default Shep may play a part.
Deus Ex doesn't have particularly complex character interactions. At least, Human Revolution doesn't. Adam Jensen's interactions with people are largely just dialogue, with little in the way of his actual development. I've only played about 4 hours of the Witcher 2 before I decided that it's got one of the worst combat systems I've ever utilized in an action-RPG and stopped playing it, so I can't speak for most of Geralt's interactions. Also, for the Witcher, that's based on a series of books with a set, defined protagonist. One shouldn't expect a lot of customization there.
I'm only using Witcher as an example and, yeah, the combat system in it does suck. Witcher is mostly about shaping the events going on in the world and you'd side with some characters over others. Human Revolution might not have been really complex but I was able to interact with people and choose how I wanted to respond. I love that, even if it's only an illusion (A lot of the dialogue in Mass Effect was just an "illusion" of choice). I loved the "dialogue boss battles", where choosing different lines altered the course of the scene and the person you were interacting with changed their reactions giving different outcomes. Plus, I actually felt part of the world.
Most games that offer choice and customization (of the player character) DO offer choice of gender. BioWare games, the newer Fallout games, the Elder Scrolls, most every MMO that exists, Sunset Overdrive, Gears of War 3 and Judgment, off the top of my head. Hell, even Call of Duty is getting in on the player customization with Ghosts and Advanced Warfare.
*All Fallout games
Deus Ex doesn't have particularly complex character interactions. At least, Human Revolution doesn't. Adam Jensen's interactions with people are largely just dialogue, with little in the way of his actual development. I've only played about 4 hours of the Witcher 2 before I decided that it's got one of the worst combat systems I've ever utilized in an action-RPG and stopped playing it, so I can't speak for most of Geralt's interactions. Also, for the Witcher, that's based on a series of books with a set, defined protagonist. One shouldn't expect a lot of customization there.
Even more, Adam Jensen's dialogue choices don't affect the way his character is perceived. Canon!Jenson is broody, hard-drinking, and hates his cybernetics. If you play as accepting of your cybernetics and as a generally mature nice person, the game still acts (in all of your cinematic cuts etc.) like you are a broody a-hole. Also, until the directors cut, completely non-lethal Jensens would still brutally murder every boss while being very angry. Talk about tone-shift.
Deus Ex doesn't have particularly complex character interactions. At least, Human Revolution doesn't. Adam Jensen's interactions with people are largely just dialogue, with little in the way of his actual development. I've only played about 4 hours of the Witcher 2 before I decided that it's got one of the worst combat systems I've ever utilized in an action-RPG and stopped playing it, so I can't speak for most of Geralt's interactions. Also, for the Witcher, that's based on a series of books with a set, defined protagonist. One shouldn't expect a lot of customization there.
As far as the Witcher goes. I think that it would benefit it if it had that choice. That you could choose a gender and create your own Witcher. I saw his character model in game and looks very bland to me.
For me I enjoyed Half Life 2 because they introduced a female companion called Alyx and she travels with you and she hold her own. Don't have to babysit her. I also enjoyed the Prince of Persia (2008 reboot) They introduced the Prince and Elika which was a strong female role assisting the prince. I was disappointed that they never made a sequel for that game. But instead they do a movie spin off the game and it wasn't as good as the others in the series
As far as the Witcher goes. I think that it would benefit it if it had that choice. That you could choose a gender and create your own Witcher. I saw his character model in game and looks very bland to me.
For me I enjoyed Half Life 2 because they introduced a female companion called Alyx and she travels with you and she hold her own. Don't have to babysit her. I also enjoyed the Prince of Persia (2008 reboot) They introduced the Prince and Elika which was a strong female role assisting the prince. I was disappointed that they never made a sequel for that game. But instead they do a movie spin off the game and it wasn't as good as the others in the series
They did two sequels to that game, Prince of perisa two thrones and I can't remeber the name of third one.
I dunno , I just prefer to watch a female ass jiggling about for the hours I put into rpgs, my dwarf rogue just didn't cut the satisfaction meter for me 
I don't generally portray myself in games. I already play a human male 24/7 IRL, and don't want to do so in games.
I do. I know the difference between real life and virtual videogames and I like to put myself (or an avatar representing me) in situations that I would never be able to do in real life, not only due to laws and morals messing around, but because in real life I can´t cast a meteor storm no matter how much I want to do it, dragons must be on the verge of extinction or something because I have never seen one and I don´t know if you have do it, but I have never met an elf with a lot of interesting things to say about demons or the Fade in real life.
But ey, that is just me, I don´t care about how other people enjoy the games they have paid for. In fact I´m glad that most (if not all) RPG developers have stopped of making gender distinctions on the attributes like different bonuses and penalties for creating a male or female character because now everyone can play the gender they want and have the same gameplay experience.
They did two sequels to that game, Prince of perisa two thrones and I can't remeber the name of third one.
The Warrior Within and The Two Thrones, I know because I got the game. But they did a reboot of it and it was actually really good. I thought so. It was 2008 when it came out. it feature a prince and a princes Erika.
The Warrior Within and The Two Thrones, I know because I got the game. But they did a reboot of it and it was actually really good. I thought so. It was 2008 when it came out. it feature a prince and a princes Erika.
But the princess was in the first reboot prince of persia game too. I'm talking about the one from 2003.
But the princess was in the first reboot prince of persia game too. I'm talking about the one from 2003.
The 2008 reboot had a completely different story line from the other ones. I think it was Farrah in the original if my memories serve me correct.
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